Thread: Pak churches Burn

Originally Posted by Ray

Neo,

I am a bit curious.

Are you a Punjabi Moslem of Pakistan?

I require the info to understand you!

No Sir, I'm born into a mohajir familiy in Karachi.
Both my parents were born in India as children from mix marriages; my father's family migrated from Samarqand, Uzbekistan to Allahabad where my grandfather was born and mother's family is from Isfahan, Iran but they've been in India for centuries. She was born in Delhi into a family of traditional goldsmiths.

We already had family in Punjab befor the partition and my grandparents stayed with them in Lahore, Rawalpindi, Multan and Bahawalpur befor settling in Karachi.

My father fled to Khulna, East Pakistan after their house was burnt in Calcutta and settled in Dhaka and later Cox's Bazar.
He came to Karachi in 1954, married my mother in 1962 and left for Europe in 1972, weeks after the civil war.
Rest of the family followed him in 1979.

My family has married pujnabis, balochis, sindhis, kashmiris, bangalis and there are even some indians in the family.
So, in every sense of word, we are true Pakistanis

If your mother is from Isfahan, then would I be correct in surmising that you are a Shia?

Sorry for asking a personal question.

You need not answer.

Originally Posted by Ray

If your mother is fro Isfahan, then would I be correct in surmising that you are a Shia?

Sorry for asking a personal question.

You need not answer.

No Sir, no problem at all!
We are sunni's, well the majority in the familiy is. Some are married into shiah family.
Many sunnis migrated from Persia like my grandparents.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Ray

Thanks.

Did I tell you Sir that as a kid, I spoke Bangla?
My father used to sing me lullabyes in Bangla.
I forgot them all

Originally Posted by Neo

Thats why we need secularism so desperately in Pakistan.

U support secularism???
i thought u had menioned it that u wud like ur country to remain islamist.



India is secular,but still we have riots and relegious disturbances.
Pakistan is Islamic,still u have riots and relegious disturbances.

Have u thought ,why is that???

Originally Posted by bull

U support secularism???
i thought u had menioned it that u wud like ur country to remain islamist.

WHAT????
I think you're mistaking me for someone else.

India is secular,but still we have riots and relegious disturbances.
Pakistan is Islamic,still u have riots and relegious disturbances.

Have u thought ,why is that???

Imo in both cases, illiteracy and deeprooted prejuce is to blame.

Any multi-religious,multi-ethnic,multi-lingual,multi-anything country will have problems.
Its utopian and foolish to think that all humans with so many many differences can live in perfect harmony.

What matters is the how the State handles the issues and the laws it applies.

Illiteracy,poverty and unemployment are but triggers(or catalysts).

Originally Posted by Neo

If Mushy can not deliver the job than he should do all possible to curb illiteracy.
Only the educated mind can save Pakistan from the danger that lies beneath further islamisation of the country.

As we speak of curbing illiteracy, the GoP made the following announcement today.
A great move!

Govt Allocates 4 % OF GDP for education
Wednesday November 16, 2005
ISLAMABAD, November 16(Online): Dr Nasim Ashraf Minister of State and Chairman NCHD while inaugurating the National Consultation Conference on post Literacy said that President and Prime Minister has approved 4 % of GDP that will be allocated for education sector in Pakistan during the next year.
The Chairman NCHD said that government is committed to involve all NGO’s in attaining the targets of Universal literacy in the country. The Chairman NCHD said that NCHD literacy centers are successfully running in 76 districts of the country where 13000 literacy centers have been established in past three years and another two hundred thousands literacy centers will be opened by NCHD throughout the country in next five years.

Dr Nasim Ashraf said that to achieve the Universal literacy in Pakistan a two prong strategy based on the interventions of Universal Primary Education (UPE) and literacy has been adopted. The Chairman said that net enrolment is being increased and drop out rates reduced through the UPE and literacy interventions in the remote areas of Pakistan.

Dr Nasim Ashraf said that literacy is a big factor for gender empowerment as it focuses more on female literacy.

Mr Iqbal-ur-Rehman Chief, NCHD literacy programme said that NCHD post literacy module has already been developed , reviewed and field tested through a twice a week classes held for neo literacy which includes Quranic themes, life skills, house hold tips, information knowledge, social harmony, health and population issues.

Dr Saleem Deputy Director Education Advisor, ministry of education, Ms Anayat Ullah Ex-Chairman Literacy Communication of Pakistan and Ms Shaheen Attique-ur-Rehman Ex-literacy minister Punjab highlighted the role of NCHD in promoting literacy amongst the marginalized segments of the country.

Prof Allen Roger the international consultant on literacy who is also a renowned author of many books on the subject of literacy programs said that focus of all literacy Programmes should be to promote the life skills. He praised the efforts of NCHD, PACADE (Pakistan Association for Continuing Adult Education) and UNESCO for promoting literacy in the country.

Mr Sajjad Hassan Federal Secretary for Education chaired the closing session of the conference where representatives of Provincial literacy department of Punjab, Elementary Education foundation of NWFP, literacy department of Sindh and Balochistan along with experts on the subject of literacy were also present .The Federal Secretary thanked the participants and assured the participants about the continuous support of Federal Education Ministry to the literacy programme spear headed by NCHD.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=125515

Literacy rate to be up by 80 percent by 2015: Anisa

ISLAMABAD, October 08 (Online): State Minister for Information and Broadcasting , Anisa Zeb Tahir Kheli has said that literacy rate in the country will be enhanced up to 80 percent by 2015.
She stated this while addressing a prize distribution ceremony here at F-6/2 Girls College on Friday.

She said government was paying special attention to Education and health sectors and has enhanced their annual budget .

She commended the efforts of President General Pervez Musharraf and Federal Minister for Education, Javaid Ashraf Qazi for their tremendous efforts to increase the literacy rate in Pakistan and hoped that soon Pakistan would stand among the countries having 100 percent literacy rate.

Addressing to the students, she stressed on the students to participate in curricular and extra curricular activities and advised them to work hard for better future of their own and of Pakistan as well.

The Minister also distributed prizes among the best performing students.

Director General ,Federal Directorate of Education, Brigadier (rtd) Maqsood ul Hassan also addressed to the students and urged upon them to learn knowledge and skill with full attention .

Earlier, the Principal of the college, Ms Rehana Rasheed presented the annual performance report of the college and thanked the guests for participating in the ceremony.

End.

Neo,

My government also makes many wonderful policy statements.

However, the reality is different.

I do hope that the Pakistani govt does what it is stating it shall do.

Originally Posted by Neo

Did I tell you Sir that as a kid, I spoke Bangla?
My father used to sing me lullabyes in Bangla.
I forgot them all

That's nice.

I mean speaking Bengali and not the forgetting them all part!

Originally Posted by Ray

That's nice.

I mean speaking Bengali and not the forgetting them all part!

Got that part.
But Bangla is a sweet language.

Originally Posted by Neo

WHAT????
I think you're mistaking me for someone else.


Imo in both cases, illiteracy and deeprooted prejuce is to blame.

Exactly.Thats why,there is no purpise thats served by blaming each others relgious sanctity or etc.Bcoz the problem is not relegious but social and economical.