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    The Govt plans to have a GST tax of about 16% uniform soon, all these marginal increases of the service tax are part of this incremental move.

    Overall it is not an amazing budget, some moves in manufacturing look okay but he has done nothing wrong so in India, I guess that is a good thing when they dont try to screw things up.

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    People should view this budget in context to important state elections comming up soon and also you never know even UP may have an election in a few months the way things are going. Being populist will be the mantra of the year.

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    The budget is s.h.i.t.
    Service tax has been increased to 12%
    - The service industry generally functions on a profit margin of 8 - 10%. The govt wants to earn more than the guys doing business themselves. This is killing most of the honest players and gives rise to corruption. What ever little they got have been eroded. The increase in service tax collection is a false picture due to inclusion other service sectors, the original payers have vanished.
    - This tax is going to pull more money from us by way of phone/mobile usage, elec usage, residential society maintenance bills, credit card usage etc.

    There is no incentive for the industry for growth and no furthur reforms have been undertaken.

    A left influenced budget.

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    I dont think so, why should the manufacturing sector pay almost 2/3s of the taxes when the service sector accounts for 54% of gdp?

    In all countries of the world most companies operate on small profit margins and the tax base is between 15%-17% of so... India will survive, actually most service sector enterprises are not complaining too much about it and in any event this is the begining, it will go up to 16% eventually and be called GST.
    All goods and services, including value added services should be taxed, this is not leftist, rather it is moving towards normal standards.

    Well i dont think the budget is crap but it aint amazing either.

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    This service tax will be passed on to the consumer anyway. Companies will pay corporate taxes. The FM should have lowered these and in India there are still 500 products which are reserved, the govt should deregulate these and open up to competition. We are not talking about privatizing, we are talking about opening up to competition where PSUs compete and do not have monopolistic rights over any industry. BSNL and Indian have shown that competition helps them become more efficient and more profit making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sameer
    I dont think so, why should the manufacturing sector pay almost 2/3s of the taxes when the service sector accounts for 54% of gdp?
    It should not. However, the difference is in volume of sales/service rendered of the services sector and the manufacturing sector.

    In all countries of the world most companies operate on small profit margins and the tax base is between 15%-17% of so...
    Try running a service oriented business honestly, in India. There are players who do not pay taxes and undercut business from under you. The state does nothing to protect the interests of the taxpayer.
    India will survive, actually most service sector enterprises are not complaining too much about it and in any event this is the begining,
    That is because they are not paying service tax. People have divided their businesses under different names to limit the turnover below 5 lacs and pay only 1% nominal ser tax per annum.
    All goods and services, including value added services should be taxed, this is not leftist, rather it is moving towards normal standards.
    There is no enforcement, and the common man will continue to suffer.

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    Are lemontree ji, we all know that the system is very karab, the problem is that the passive Indian voter seldom demands more. Let me see some middle class and up voting first and perhaps all those crooked idiots will be voted out for less crooked idiots.

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    btw it is because of those dishonest tax payers that VAT was introduced na.

    Dont worry though things are getting tougher now, the govt is spending a lot of money in monitoring but it will take time to be set up and filter through. By 2015, the system will catch a lot of those people. If you have a declared income of 10000rs a month and suddenly you buy a plasma tv, dont be surprised if two years from now, you get this inquiry from the rev agency. Now this system will take time to filter through everywhere as the use of debit and credit cards will have to become common, give it time,,, until then vote out the idiots.

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    This service tax is passed onto the consumer who will have to pay tax on all goods, a service is also a good, been like this everywhere for years. 54% of gdp is no small volume, especially if you decompose and analyse volumes. Also one must understand that the FM wants to increase the tax base since only 3% of Indians are patriotic enough to pay income tax. Indians complain about power, roads, corruption, lack of development etc but barely any of them wish to pay tax and be honest about it.... too bad for them.

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    For India’s poor budget brings no relief

    By Surojit Gupta


    NANGLA JAMALPUR: When India’s finance minister told parliament on Tuesday how much money he had in the budget to aid millions of poor, it meant little to many of the people he aimed to help.

    Outside India’s city-based economic boom, people like Bala, gathering sugarcane by hand on a farm 50 km outside New Delhi, do not even have electricity — let alone a television — to bring them the news.

    At Nangla Jamalpur’s school, classes are held in the open because lighting is intermittent while the three outdoor toilets teachers and pupils use have been bricked up to keep other villagers out. The school’s caretaker has been let go due to lack of funds.

    For Bala, a widow, the ruling Congress party-led coalition’s drive to improve roads and sanitation in Asia’s third-largest economy, and its policy of allotting billions for health and education, have made little or no difference.

    “I barely earn 50 to 60 Indian rupees ($1.10-$1.40) a day. I have four kids to look after,” she said. “Budget? Sir, I have not heard about it.”

    “Lack of a proper delivery system and very slow implementation of budget proposals means that there is a huge wastage of resources,” said D.H. Pai Panandikar, president of private economic think-tank RPG Foundation. “This means that the money does not reach the real beneficiaries.”

    A year ago, Chidambaram unveiled plans worth billions of dollars aimed at India’s 260 million poor. Last year the communist-backed government also introduced a scheme which guarantees 100 days of work a year to every rural household.

    The scheme was officially launched in February, but even news of its existence has not trickled down to all of those who need it the most.

    “Nobody has told us anything. No one comes to our village,” said 60-year-old Vidyapati, who also lives in Nangla Jamalpur, a village of 3,000 people off the road from Delhi to the Himalayas.

    Economists say India urgently needs to improve rural infrastructure to prevent the growing wealth gap from creating social unrest and to maintain the economy’s 8 per cent growth.

    Failure to improve roads and ensure steady power supply could also hurt demand for industrial goods since a large chunk of the economy is driven by rural demand.

    “If you don’t improve power, roads and other infrastructure in rural areas then the structure of demand for industrial goods such as televisions and transport equipment will fall,” said Pronob Sen, economic adviser to India’s Planning Commission.

    India’s town-country divide has widened since economic reforms began in 1991, a problem reflected in the 2004 election which saw the rural poor vote in large numbers against the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party.

    S****y glass-and-chrome office blocks and shopping malls are common in India’s cities. In contrast, an open drain cuts in front of Bala’s nearest hospital and sewage stagnates behind it. It has four beds and two doctors, who between them see 250 to 300 patients a day.

    More government spending would help. But after 21 months in power, Congress’s revenue-raising reforms have progressed very slowly, partly because its communist allies have blocked the sale of stakes in state-run firms.

    Economists say reforms in agriculture, retail and real estate are needed urgently to generate more jobs and stem the flow of the rural unemployed to already-overcrowded cities. “The government should allow contract farming, take steps for large investments in agriculture and improve rural connectivity,” said Tapan Kumar Bhaumik, chief economist with India’s largest conglomerate, Reliance Industries Ltd..

    “There is no room for rhetoric. It’s time to implement and consolidate reforms which impact the lives of the rural poor.”—Reuters

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    The village of that person mentioned in the article has not been informed of the rural employment guarantee simply because for the first 2 years it will not encompass all villages, rather it will start with a pre selected set and then gradually expand to capture all villages over the next five years.

    The GOI will give loans to farmers at 7% rather than the current 10% interest. How?
    Well Bank rate is at 6% and inflation is at 4% so they will need to tinker with the market to get this rate to farmers, probably by infusing liquidity to banks to offset the 3% loss.

    This is not enough, the guy has no power in his village because state governments promise free power during election time, then give it for a few months, the state electricity board goes bankrupt and then the scheme is cancelled. All in all the neta got into office.
    There are no short term solutions, more farmers will commit suicide. The best long term solution is to relax labor laws and allow the huge rural pop to get jobs in manufacturing sector which will pay them higher wages than agriculture any day.

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    the commies will never allow the sale of PSUs, even x% shares, because their vote bank are the unions who are responsible for such things as strikes every day, burning of cars for no reason etc..

    There is the rural development scheme of the Kangress being imppllemented this year as well but i dont see that working. These people need jobs en mass and away from a volatile agricultural sector. 2/3 of the pop depend on agriculture which merely accounts for 18% of gdp and falling, this is why there is inequality. These people should be moving to manufacturing sector as this is the sector that provides low skilled workers with jobs at higher wages than agri but in India this sector is capital intensive because of archaic labor laws which discourage employers from expanding their workforce. Its a simple problem but there is no political will.

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    US companies eye Indian skills

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    GE is among many US companies which has spent millions on an R&D facility

    President Bush meets Indian business leaders in the south of the country on Friday. There is plenty to talk about.

    In a quiet suburb of the southern Indian city of Bangalore, some 2,500 Indians are working in a $80m facility using some of the most advanced technology in the world.

    Spread over 50 acres, the John F Welch Technology Centre is one of only four such research and development (R&D) centres in the world, and was set up in 2000 by American giant General Electric (GE).

    Its laboratories employ highly-skilled Indian engineers, scientists and researchers who work on developing applications for GE's businesses worldwide.

    In 2000, when the then US President Bill Clinton visited India, many US companies were cashing in on India's fast growing IT sector.

    But most of them were using low-skilled workers, mainly fresh college graduates, for a variety of basic call centre and back office processing work.

    Hi-tech research

    Six years later, as Mr Clinton's Republican successor George W Bush comes calling, American business interests in India have taken a quantum leap.

    India has a strong foundation in its technology and engineering schools and, as a result, is an excellent source for scientific talent

    Guillermo Wille
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    "Earlier US companies basically outsourced data processing, back office work etc.," says Ramesh C Bajpai, Executive Director of the American Chamber of Commerce in India.

    "Now basic research work is being carried out in this country. That's what's been happening for the past two to three years."

    With India registering a growth rate of 8% a year, it is beginning to attract significant amounts of high technology investment.

    Another American company, Cisco Systems, is investing $1.2bn in a new R&D centre in Bangalore which will employ 3,000 people - it's single largest investment outside the US.

    Microsoft has announced plans to invest $1.7bn in its own research facility and Intel another billion.



    Indian has a deep pool of skilled, scientific talent

    "What American companies have now realised is that the talent pool in India is now on par with the United States," says Mr Bajpai.

    Now Indian skills are being used for innovation and design.

    Guillermo Wille, Managing Director of the John F Welch centre believes India is becoming the preferred destination for global companies to set up their R&D centres.

    "India has a strong foundation in its technology and engineering schools and, as a result, is an excellent source for scientific talent," he says.

    Reverse brain-drain

    The increased opportunities for highly-skilled work is also attracting many Indians who are based in the United States but are returning home to work on similar projects in surroundings that are a bit more familiar.

    Rangu Salgame worked in the US for 20 years, mainly in telecom companies.


    American brands are a visible sign across India
    In 2003, he returned to the country of his birth to head Cisco's India operations.

    "India as a market is very attractive," he says.

    "Cisco in India is replicating all the functions that it does in the United States - R&D, infrastructure and venture capital.

    "This is just the beginning of the telecom revolution in India."

    With the political relationship between the two countries, once ranged on opposite sides of the Cold War fence, improving substantially, American companies are getting comfortable with the idea of doing business with India - a lot of business.

    Last year US exports to India jumped by 30% but, at $7.96bn, were substantially lower than its imports from India - which amounted to $18.8bn.

    Appetite for more

    But that could slowly change.

    Along with technology and fuel to feed India's growing energy appetite, American companies are also targeting Indian consumers.

    Our life here is almost uncannily similar to life back there (US)

    Satish Reddy
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    It's something that's not lost on the American chief executive.

    "Young Indians are acquiring a taste for pizza from Domino's and Pizza Hut," President Bush said in a recent speech.

    A visit to Gurgaon, a wealthy suburb of Delhi, appears to confirm the optimism.

    Nestled between high-rise apartment blocks and shiny office complexes, housing leading American companies like Gillette and American Express, are a series of shopping malls that would not be out of place in Texas.

    Inside, young Indians browse through shops selling Nike footwear and Levis jeans, gawk at the latest Ford SUV on display and then head off to the food-court to choose between McDonalds, Dominos or Subway.

    Satish Reddy used to work in a software company in California's famed Silicon Valley.

    Two years later he returned to work for a leading American company based in Gurgaon.

    "My wife and I were apprehensive at first. After all, we'd lived in the States for eight years," he says, speaking in a strong Californian drawl.

    "But our life here is almost uncannily similar to life back there.

    "Our apartment is centrally air-conditioned, is well-equipped. We work out at a gym nearby, catch a movie at the mall on weekends, grab a pizza afterwards.

    "And the best part of it all is that if you are homesick, you just need to step outside."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4767232.stm

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    The Indo US relationship has changed because of one reason and one reason alone

    economics

    Sure the US may be looking for a counterweight to China in the long run but that counterweight would not be viable unless its economics did not work out.


    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/1437559.cms
    Back with a vengeance, US cos hitting India
    VINOD MAHANTA AND BHANU PANDE

    TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, MARCH 04, 2006 12:19:21 AM]

    NEW DELHI: Call it a second wave from across the Atlantic. A fresh crop of US companies is hitting India with a vengeance.

    Whether it’s consulting major Bain, internet biggie Google, the second rung FMCG major Church & Dwight, or, for that matter, mattress manufacturer, King Koil. American firms who missed the first wave are lining up to enter India. Look beyond manufacturing. There’s more noise in services such as retail, IT, and online advertising.

    Several more are finalising plans to land on the Indian shores, if we go by FIPB applications. Interestingly, if the first lot of American corporations who entered India were made of Fortune 500 companies, the new wave is bringing the lot from amongst the Fortune 2000 companies, who choose to play the waiting game.


    • Cos like Bain, Google, Church & Dwight set to explore India
    • More interest in services like retail, IT, online advertising
    • These Fortune 2000 cos are drawn by success of GE, P&G, Gillette, Ford, Citibank, American Express
    • Market is lucrative with GDP at 8%
    Country’s consumer market could touch $400bn by 2010 [U]
    • About 70% Of India’s citizens are less than 36 years old

    The American companies are looking at globalising much more aggressively. Most of them have had a period of sustained profitability, and have the financial strength to invest in growing markets.

    And with the environment in India becoming increasingly business friendly, the transition is much easier for companies now,” says Ashish J Singh, MD, Bain India. It’s an opportunity that the likes of American Safety Razor, and Kraft Foods wouldn’t want to pass up.

    Then there’s always the clutch of US IT firms, which continue to look towards India. Recently, firms ExtraQuest, Bright Star and EscrowTech made known their interest in India — though some are big, most of them are niche players. Now service players are keen to tap the Indian market.
    Services account for 52per cent of India’s GDP against 35per cent two decades back. This sector is a lucrative market and is growing at around 10per cent.

    It holds a huge opportunity that nobody wants to miss out on. According to Chaitanya Khurana, general manager, Cornerstone, the company did research on growth in the Asian context and found that India and China offered great potential.

    “There is great value addition in starting up India operations now as we can service the global clients in India and Indian companies going abroad,” he said.

    Analysts believe the newcomers and those who are waiting in the wings are being drawn by the success stories of established American companies in India. They have managed to crack open the market and are reaping the rewards of patience now.
    And it’s well understood that the market is going to get even more lucrative with GDP growing estimated at 8per cent, and per capita income rising.

    There’s another attraction at work: About 70per cent of India’s citizens is less than 36 years old. Moreover, the country is home to 20per cent of the world’s population under the age of 24.

    Already among the top-10, India’s consumer market has the potential to touch $400 bn by 2010, studies say. It’s a market that will only get juicier, as sectors like retail open up, and players like Wal-Mart are given a ticket to ride in. And new set of companies see this country as the road to fast growth.

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    • NEWSWEEK International Editor Fareed Zakaria joined us for a Live Talk about India’s growing power in the world, on Thursday, March 2, at 12:30 p.m. ET.
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    March 6, 2006 issue - Every year at the World Economic Forum in Davos, there's a star. Not a person but a country. One country impresses the gathering of global leaders because of a particularly smart Finance minister or a compelling tale of reform or even a glamorous gala. This year there was no contest. In the decade that I've been going to Davos, no country has captured the imagination of the conference and dominated the conversation as India in 2006.

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    It was not a matter of chance. As you got off the plane in Zurich, there were large billboards extolling INCREDIBLE INDIA. Davos itself was plastered with signs. WORLD'S FASTEST GROWING FREE MARKET DEMOCRACY! proclaimed the town's buses. When you got to your room, you found an iPod Shuffle loaded with Bollywood songs, and a pashmina shawl, gifts from the Indian delegation. When you entered the meeting rooms, you were likely to hear an Indian voice, one of the dozens of CEOs of world-class Indian companies. And then there were the government officials, India's "Dream Team," all intelligent and articulate, and all selling their country.

    The Forum's main social event was an Indian extravaganza, with a bevy of Indian beauties dancing to pulsating Hindi tunes against an electric blue Taj Mahal. The guests joined in the festivities. The impeccably dressed chairman of the Forum, Klaus Schwab, donned a colorful Indian turban and shawl, nibbled on chicken tikka and talked up the country's prospects with Michael Dell. INDIA EVERYWHERE, said the ubiquitous logo. It was.

    And everyone now is in India—most significantly, of course, George W. Bush, who will arrive there on March 1. Jacques Chirac was there two weeks ago. (So was Bill Clinton, who can't stop returning to the country.) Two weeks before that it was Saudi Arabia's newly crowned monarch, King Abdullah. The week after Bush leaves, Australian Prime Minister John Howard arrives. And that's all in six weeks. The world—and particularly the United States—is courting India as it never has before. Fascinated by the new growth story, perhaps wary of Asia's Chinese superpower, searching to hedge some bets, the world has woken up to India's potential. But does it really know this complex, diverse country? Just as important, does India know what it wants of the world?

    The marketing slogans wouldn't work if there were no substance behind them. Over the past 15 years, India has been the second fastest-growing country in the world—after China—averaging above 6 percent growth per year. Growth accelerated to 7.5 percent last year and will probably hold at the same pace this year. Many observers believe that India could well expand at this higher rate for the next decade.

    While China's rise is already here and palpable—it has grown at almost 10 percent since 1980—India's is still more a tale of the future, but a future that is coming into sharp focus. A much-cited 2003 study by Goldman Sachs projects that over the next 50 years, India will be the fastest-growing of the world's major economies (largely because its work force will not age as fast as the others). The report calculates that in 10 years India's economy will be larger than Italy's and in 15 years will have overtaken Britain's. By 2040 it will boast the world's third largest economy. By 2050 it will be five times the size of Japan's and its per capita income will have risen to 35 times its current level. Predictions like these are a treacherous business, though it's worth noting that India's current growth rate is actually higher than the study assumed.
    Even the here and now is impressive. Indian companies are growing at an extraordinary pace, posting yearly gains of 15, 20 and 25 percent. The Tata group, the country's largest business house, is a far-flung conglomerate that makes everything from cars and steel to software and consulting systems. In this sense, it is a useful window on India's industrial and postindustrial economy. Its revenues grew last year from $17 billion to $24 billion and it is heading for extremely strong growth this year. At another end of the scale, the automobile-parts business is made up of hundreds of small companies. Five years ago the industry's total revenues were $4 billion. This year they will exceed $10 billion. In 2008, General Motors alone will import $1 billion of auto components from India.

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    That's outsourcing—as it is any time an American company buys goods or services from abroad. It's also called trade or globalization or capitalism. Those who want to stop it—and it's not clear how you could do that—should remember that the United States' prosperity has come from its very willingness to open itself up to the world. Over the last 60 years, manufacturing employment in the United States has plummeted as those industries went abroad—and yet average American incomes have risen to be the highest in the world. Over the last 20 years, as globalization has quickened, American companies have outsourced first goods, then services—and American incomes have risen faster than those of any other major industrial country. Banning auto-parts factories or call centers will not save General Motors. Globalization highlights some problems for America, but the solutions are all at home. As they have in the past, Americans must—and can—make goods and services that people will pay for freely, not because the government forces them to by shutting out the competition. That is the only stable path to economic security.

    At this point, anyone who has actually been to India will probably be puzzled. "India?" he or she will say. "With its dilapidated airports, crumbling roads, vast slums and impoverished villages? We're talking about that India?" Yes, that, too, is India. The country might have several Silicon Valleys, but it also has three Nigerias within it, more than 300 million people living on less than a dollar a day. India is home to 40 percent of the world's poor and has the world's second largest HIV population. But that is the familiar India, the India of poverty and disease. The India of the future contains all this but also something new. You can feel the change even in the midst of the slums.

    To new visitors, it won't look pretty. Many Western businessmen go to India expecting it to be the next China. But it never will be that. China's growth is a product of its efficient, all-powerful government. Beijing decides the country needs new airports, eight-lane highways, gleaming industrial parks—and they are built within months. It courts multinationals and provides them with permits and facilities within days. It looks good and, in many ways, it is that good, having produced the most successful case of economic development in human history.

    India's growth is messy, chaotic and largely unplanned. It is not top-down but bottom-up. It is happening not because of the government, but largely despite it. India does not have Beijing and Shanghai's gleaming infrastructure, and it does not have a government that rolls out the red carpet for foreign investment—no government in democratic India would have those kinds of powers anyway. But it has vast and growing numbers of entrepreneurs who want to make money. And somehow they find a way to do it, overcoming the obstacles, bypassing the bureaucracy. "The government sleeps at night and the economy grows," says Gurcharan Das, former CEO of Procter Gamble in India.

    There are some who argue that India's path has distinct advantages. MIT's Yasheng Huang points out that India's companies use their capital far more efficiently than China's; they benchmark to global standards and are better managed than Chinese firms. Despite being much poorer than China, India has produced dozens of world-class companies like Infosys, Ranbaxy and Reliance. Huang attributes this difference to the fact that India has a real and deep private sector (unlike China's many state-owned and state-funded companies), a clean, well-regulated financial system and the sturdy rule of law. Another example: every year Japan awards the coveted Deming Prizes for managerial innovation, and over the last four years, they have been awarded more often to Indian companies than to firms from any other country, including Japan.
    This bottom-up activity is evident not simply among entrepreneurs. The Indian consumer is also rearing for action. Most Asian success stories have been ones in which the government forces its people to save, producing growth through capital accumulation and market-friendly policies. In India, the individual is king. Young Indian professionals don't wait to buy a house at the end of their lives with their savings. They take out mortgages. The credit-card industry is growing at 35 percent a year. Personal consumption makes up a staggering 67 percent of GDP in India, much higher than China (42 percent) or any other Asian country. Only the United States is higher at 70 percent.

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    Statistics don't quite capture what is happening. Indians, at least in urban areas, are bursting with enthusiasm. Indian businessmen are giddy about their prospects. Indian designers and artists speak of extending their influence across the globe. Bollywood movie stars want to grow their audience abroad from their "base" of half a billion fans. It is as if hundreds of millions of people have suddenly discovered the keys to unlock their potential. A famous Indian once put it eloquently, "A moment comes, which comes but rarely in history, when we step out from the old to the new, when an age ends and when the soul of a nation, long suppressed, finds utterance."

    Those words, which Indians of a certain generation know by heart, were spoken by the country's first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, just after midnight, on Aug. 15, 1947, when independent India was born. What Nehru was referring to, of course, was the birth of India as an independent state. What is happening today is the birth of India as an independent society—boisterous, colorful, open, vibrant and, above all, ready for change. India is diverging from its past, but also from most other countries in Asia. It is not a quiet, controlled, quasi-authoritarian country that is slowly opening up according to plans. It is a noisy democracy that has finally empowered its people economically. In this respect India, one of the poorest countries in the world, looks strikingly similar to the world's wealthiest country, the United States of America. In both places, society has triumphed over the state.

    The Indian state has been a roaring success on one front. India's democracy is a wonder to behold. One of the world's poorest countries, it has sustained democratic government for almost 60 years. And this is surely one of the country's greatest strengths when compared with many other developing countries. If you ask the question "What will India look like politically in 25 years?" we know the answer: like it does today—a democracy, probably with a coalition government. Democracy makes for populism, pandering and delays. But it also makes for long-term stability. (In case President Bush is looking for some answers for Iraq, he should recall that the British were able to stay in India for 200 years and built lasting institutions of government throughout the country, and that India got very lucky with its first generation of leaders. Men like Nehru may not have understood economics, but they deeply understood political freedom.)

    If the Indian state has succeeded in one crucial dimension, it has failed in several others. In the 1950s and 1960s, India tried to modernize by creating a "mixed" economic model, between capitalism and communism. This meant a shackled and overregulated private sector, and a massively inefficient and corrupt public sector. The results were poor, and in the 1970s, as India became more socialist, they became disastrous. In 1960 India had a higher per capita GDP than China; today it is less than half of China's. That year it had the same per capita GDP as South Korea; today South Korea's is 13 times larger. The United Nations Human Development Index gauges countries by income, health, literacy and other such measures. India ranks 124 out of 177, behind Syria, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and the Dominican Republic. Female literacy in India is a shockingly low 54 percent. Despite mountains of rhetoric about helping the poor, by any reasonable comparison, India's government has done too little for them.
    Is this a problem with democracy? Not entirely. Bad policies fail whether pursued by dictators or democrats. But there are elements of democracy that have hurt, certainly in a country with rampant poverty, feudalism and illiteracy. Democracy in India too often means not the will of the majority but the will of organized minorities—landowners, powerful castes, farmers, government unions and local thugs. (Nearly a fifth of the members of the Indian Parliament have been accused of crimes, including embezzlement, rape and murder.) These groups are usually richer than most of their countrymen, and they plunder the state's coffers to stay that way. It is ironic, for example, that India's Communist Party does not campaign for growth to lift the very poor but rather works to maintain the relatively privileged conditions of unionized workers. As these power plays go on, the great majority's interests—those 800 million who earn less than $2 a day—often fall through the cracks.

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    But democracy has its own way of rebalancing. The wave of Hindu nationalism that raged through the country in the 1990s is on the wane, for now, and a thoroughly secular government is in power. Headed by Manmohan Singh, the former Finance minister who opened up India's economy in the summer of 1991, it is also committed to economic reform. In an act of great wisdom and restraint, Sonia Gandhi, who led the ruling coalition to victory in the polls, chose to appoint Singh as prime minister rather than take the job herself. As a result, quite unexpectedly, India's chaotic and often-corrupt democratic system has yielded as its head of government a man of immense intelligence, unimpeachable integrity and deep experience. Singh, an Oxford Ph.D., has already run the country's central bank, planning ministry and Finance Ministry. His breadth, depth and decency are unmatched by any Indian prime minister since Nehru.

    But Singh has disappointed many of his fans. They had hoped for another set of large-scale reforms, but the government has been cautious and is implementing programs that look suspiciously like another round of subsidies (programs that have had such little success in the past). These are the constraints of democracy. Singh heads a fragile coalition government without a strong mandate for economic change. He is not himself a powerful politician, depending on Mrs. Gandhi for his clout. But his quiet determination to keep moving forward—on economics, politics and foreign policy—has been underestimated. His Economic ministers are all reformers. They work within the political limits, but they work. For example, infrastructure in India is slowly getting better and will be funded through public-private partnerships. India's two major airports will be privatized and improve dramatically. Every week you read of a set of regulations that have been eased or permissions that have been eliminated. These "stealth reforms," too small to draw vigorous opposition from the unreconstructed left, add up. And India's pro-reform constituency keeps growing. The middle class is already 300 million strong. Urban India is not all of India, but it is a large and influential chunk of it.

    Democracy is India's destiny. A country this diverse and complex—17 major languages, 22,000 dialects and all the world's major religions—cannot really be governed any other way. The task is to use democracy to India's advantage. In some cases this is happening. The Indian government has recently begun investing in rural education and health, and is focusing on ways to make agriculture more productive. Good economics can sometimes make for good politics, at least that is the Indian hope. Another change is that, since 1993, democracy has been broadened to give villages greater voice in their affairs. Most important, village councils must reserve 33 percent of their seats for women. As a result there are 1 million elected women in villages across the country. They will now have a platform from which to demand better education and health care. It's bottom-up development, with society pushing the state.

    Will the state respond? Built during the British Raj, massively expanded in India's socialist era, it is filled with bureaucrats who are in love with their petty powers and privileges. They are joined by politicians who enjoy the power of patronage. And then there are some journalists and intellectuals who still hold on to some romantic idea of Third World socialism. There are many in India's ruling class who remain deeply uncomfortable with the modern, open, commercial society that they see growing around them.
    But the state fills a vital role. Look at India's great success—its private companies. They flourish because of a well-regulated stock market and financial system that has transparency, adjudication and enforcement—all government functions. Or consider the booming telecommunications industry, which was created by intelligent government deregulation and re-regulation. Or the Indian institutes of technology—among the world's best—all government-run. But that's just a start. The private sector cannot solve India's AIDS crisis or its rural education shortfalls or its environmental problems. If India's governance does not improve, the country will never fully achieve its potential.

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    This is perhaps the central paradox of India today. Its society is open, eager, confident and ready to take on the world. But its state—its ruling class—is far more hesitant, cautious and suspicious of the changed realities around it. Nowhere is this tension more obvious than in the realm of foreign policy, in the increasingly large and important task of determining how India should fit into the New World.

    Most Americans would probably be surprised to learn that India is, by all accounts, the most pro-American country in the world. The Pew Global Attitudes Survey, released in June 2005, asked people in 16 countries whether they had a favorable impression of the United States. A stunning 71 percent of Indians said yes. Only Americans had a more favorable view of America (83 percent). The numbers are somewhat lower in other surveys, but the basic finding remains true: Indians are extremely comfortable with, and well disposed toward, America.

    This may be because for decades India's government tried to force-feed anti-Americanism down people's throats. (Politicians in the 1970s spoke so often of the "hidden hand" when explaining India's miseries—by which they meant the CIA or American interference generally—that cartoonists took to drawing an actual hand that descended every now and then to cause havoc.) More likely it is because Indians understand America. It is a noisy, open society with a chaotic democratic system—like theirs. Many urban Indians speak America's language, are familiar with the country and often actually know someone who lives there, possibly even a relative.

    The Indian-American community has been a bridge between the two cultures. The term often used to describe Indians leaving their country is "brain drain." But it's been more like brain gain, for both sides. Indians abroad have played a crucial role in opening up the mother country. They returned to India with money, investment ideas, global standards and, most important, a sense that one could achieve anything. An Indian parliamentarian once famously asked the then prime minister, Indira Gandhi, "Why is it that Indians seem to succeed everywhere except in their own country?" The stories of Indians scaling the highest peaks in America have produced pride and emulation in India. Americans, for their part, have embraced India in some measure because they have had a positive experience with Indians in America.

    Americans also find India understandable. They are puzzled and disturbed by impenetrable decision-making elites like the Chinese Politburo or the Iranian Council of Guardians. A quarrelsome democracy that keeps moving backward, forward and sideways—that they know. Take the current negotiations on nuclear issues. Americans watch what is going on in New Delhi, with people inside the government who are opposed to a nuclear deal leaking negative stories to the media, political opponents using the issue to score points, true ideological opponents being utterly implacable—and this all seems very familiar. Similar things happen every day in Washington.

    Most countries have relationships that are almost exclusively between governments. Think of the links between the United States and Saudi Arabia, which exist among a few dozen high officials and have never really gone beyond that. But sometimes bonds develop not merely between states but between societies. Twice before the United States had developed a relationship with a country that was strategic but also much more—with Britain and later with Israel. In both cases, the resulting ties were broad and deep, going well beyond government officials and diplomatic negotiations. The two countries knew each other, understood each other and as a result became natural and almost permanent partners. America has the opportunity to forge such a relationship with India.

    This is not a matter of strategic "balancing" against China. The world is not that simple. The United States should not create a self-fulfilling prophecy of a conflict with China. The American relationship with China is complex, with many elements of cooperation. China, after all, is one of America's chief creditors, and Americans in turn buy Chinese goods, fueling its growth. Nor will India want to play along as a counterweight to China, since its own relations with its powerful neighbor are crucial. Beijing will overtake America as India's largest trading partner within a couple of years. Both India and America will want to retain their independence in dealing with the Middle Kingdom. That said, the rise of China is the fundamental strategic shift that is altering Asia's—and the world's—landscape. And the United States and India will be glad to have each other's company in that circumstance.

    This doesn't mean that the United States and India will agree on every policy issue. Remember that even during their close wartime alliance, Roosevelt and Churchill disagreed about several issues, most notably India's independence. America broke with Britain over Suez. It condemned Israel for its invasion of Lebanon. Washington and New Delhi have different interests and thus will inevitably have policy disputes. But it is precisely because of the deep bonds between these countries that such disagreements would not alter the fundamental reality of friendship, empathy and association.

    Such a relationship between the United States and India is almost inevitable. Whether the nuclear agreement goes through or not, whether the governments sign new treaties, the two societies are getting increasingly intertwined. A common language, a familiar world view and a growing fascination with each other is bringing together businessmen, nongovernmental activists, journalists and writers.
    I say almost inevitable because there are pulls against it on both sides. In America, there is always the danger that politicians will turn to populism and protectionism as a cheap way to get votes. So far the pandering has been limited and temporary, but as elections approach and politicians grandstand, it's always convenient to find foreigners upon whom to blame your ills. Additionally, Washington is still learning the art of treating other countries with the respect and deference they expect—and India can be prickly and proud.

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    But the real stumbling block to a deep Indo-U.S. relationship will come not from Washington but New Delhi. While Singh and some others at the top of the Indian government see the world clearly, and see the immense opportunities it opens up for India, many others are blinded by their prejudices. For many Indian elites, it has been comfortable and comforting to look at the world from the prism of a poor, Third World country, whose foreign policy was neutral, detached (and, one might add, unsuccessful). They understand how to operate in that world, whom to bargain with, whom to beg from and whom to be belligerent with. But a world in which India is a great power, in which it moves confidently across the global stage, and in which it is a friend and partner of the most powerful country in history—that is an altogether new and unsettling proposition. "Why is the United States being nice to us?" several such doubters have asked me repeatedly. Even now, in 2003, they were searching for the hidden hand. China's Mandarin class has been able to rethink its country's new role as a world power with skill and effectiveness. So far, India's Brahmins have not shown themselves the equals of their neighbor.

    The danger for India is that this moment might not last forever. The world turns and India will have its ups and downs. But today it is India's moment. It can grasp it and forge a new path for itself. Along that road lies a genuine and deep relationship between the planet's largest democracy and its wealthiest democracy. Until now, this has merely been a slogan. It could actually become a reality, and who knows what such a world might look like?

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