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    China’s widening income gap approaching dangerous level.

    September 26, 2005


    China’s widening income gap approaching dangerous level.



    There were three articles in peopledaily.com.cn that are somewhat related. The first is about the six problems facing China in the twenty-first century. The second is about the very low per capita wealth of China which is only some 2% of the US. The third warns about the widening wealth gap which is reaching dangerous level. I’d like to comment on them at the same time as they are ultimately due to the same set of problems.

    One of the problems of China is the pouring in of the farmers into the urban areas at the rate of some 12 to 13 million people per year. Presumably this is causing a problem in providing jobs and incomes to these urbanized farmers. Since the government is not able to find good jobs for these people, there is the danger of social unrest. The farmers are pouring into the urban areas because of the income disparity between the rural and urban areas with the income disparity reaching some 3.2 times at 9,422 yuans for the urban household and 2,936 yuans for the rural household. There is also the lack of good farming land which is causing many rural residents to be unemployed or underemployed.

    The urbanized farmers are causing a problem as I said above because there are no good jobs with high incomes for them. If there were many good jobs with high incomes, then there would not be a problem as these farmers could be quickly put to work to generate high incomes for themselves while expanding China’s economy. Therefore, the problem is not the pouring of farmers into the urban areas. The problem is the inability of the Chinese government to implement wise economic policies to create hundreds of millions of jobs for these urbanized farmers. And the root of the problem is that the Chinese government is obsessed with doing subsidized exports and treats the urbanization as a distraction thus rendering them emotionally or intellectually unable to deal with the urbanization project with the urgent priority it deserves.

    Going back even further, there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the economic policies are supposed to accomplish. The CCP leaders and economists are managing Chinese economy like they are managing a candy store. The basic philosophy in managing a candy store is to sell as many candies as possible while not eating any of the candies by the store owners or the employees and to accumulate as much money as possible as a store of wealth. According to this economic analogy, the CCP economists see the overall economic objective of Chinese economic policies as exporting as much goods as possible and to accumulate as much foreign currency as possible as the store of national wealth just as the objective of the candy store is to sell as much candies as possible and accumulate as much money as possible. And as the a well run candy store prohibits the eating of any candies by the store owners and the employees, the CCP economists see the consumption of Chinese goods by the Chinese people as reducing the wealth of the Chinese nation. Therefore, the basic philosophy of the CCP economists is to export as much as possible while reducing the internal consumption. Furthermore, they see that wealth can only be created by exporting and that internal consumption is paid for by the wealth made by exports.

    This is the wrong perception of the economic policies of a nation. The real goal of the economic policies of any nation is to create wealth in terms of the knowledge-base of the people, the productive capacities, and the infrastructures. These are to be created by expanding the productivity of the workers. And the productivity of the workers can be expanded only through the advancement of technologies and the managerial techniques. And the store of wealth in terms of knowledge-base of the people, the productive capacities, and the infrastructure can only be created by expanding the internal growth. Given this understanding, foreign trade is only important to import the resources, raw materials, and technologies or technological products that a country cannot produce. And the procurement of resources, etc. from foreign sources should be done as advantageously as possible by trading with as high a rate of currency value as possible.

    Unfortunately, China has violated all these basic rules. It has neglected its technological advancement and thereby condemning China to import foreign technologies or foreign technological products. Even more unwisely, China has deliberately kept its currency value low so that it trades at a very serious disadvantage. Moreover, hard earned foreign exchange is being squandered by being embezzled by corrupt officials who steal tens of billions of dollars by official estimate and probably hundreds of billions of dollars in reality. Too much foreign exchange is also being squandered to pay for the foreign education of children of wealthy officials and wealthy merchants. Also too much foreign exchange is being squandered to import needless luxury goods such as wine, watches, cars, etc. that most Chinese could not afford and which suppresses the growth of domestic companies that produce these goods.

    Since the Chinese currency is being devalued to 5 times below its real value, these effectively constitute a heavy subsidy to the exporters who cannot export their cheap low tech products except with the low yuan. This heavy subsidy is ultimately borne by the Chinese people as a whole thus reducing their purchasing power and stunting the growth of the Chinese internal economy. To see why low yuan is subsidizing exports, please see my post “Subsidized exporters are parasites” at the following link:

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/threa...&lp=1107805397

    Currently, China’s new jobs are created in the exports sector as exports grow at some 35% or more each year for the last several years. This is very unhealthy as the low yuan gives an extra advantage to the foreigners because of the exceptionally high value of the dollar and conversely put the Chinese domestic manufacturers at a serious disadvantage making them unable to compete for scarce resources such as water and electricity and other raw materials such as steel and aluminum. Thus the low yuan condemns the internal economy to languish while the foreign trade boomed to the ultimate disadvantage of the Chinese people as a whole.

    The booming foreign trade is making the few Chinese people engaged in foreign trade rich. This creates the boom in the urban areas where foreign trade is concentrated. The boom causes an over-construction of such things as luxury office towers, luxury hotels, luxury housings, and luxury shopping malls which all cater to foreign investors and rich Chinese in the foreign trade. But this boom in foreign trade and urban areas also condemned the internal development to languish thus creating the inevitable income gap in the rural and urban areas. Furthermore, it also makes it impossible for the urban areas to provide abundant job opportunities because foreign trade is ultimately dependent on foreign demands which is already pretty much saturated. And ultimately incomes of workers working for foreign trade cannot rise above a certain minimum because exports, especially in low tech labor intensive products, depends on the cheapest labor cost in the world. Therefore this makes it inevitable that the wages of Chinese workers working for foreign trade to be the lowest in the world in dollar terms while at the same time making the rural incomes to be even lower still than the urban incomes due to the forced subsidies through low yuan value.

    The need to keep the production cost of exported goods low makes it inevitable that environmental pollution considerations are neglected. While environmental degradation is listed as one of the serious problems of China, the Chinese government doesn’t seem to understand, or understanding chose to ignore it, that subsidized exports is one of the fundamental causes of China’s environmental degradation. If Chinese government makes internal development its main goal, then it could put many millions of workers to work to solve the environmental problem cleaning up rivers and lakes and implementing reforestation, etc. while demanding that manufacturers stop polluting the environment. Therefore, expanding internal development while cutting down on subsidized exports will quickly solve the environmental degradation problem while creating many high paying jobs.

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    "2,936 yuans"

    I had given this exact figure in US dollars a few weeks ago when it comes to the yearly income of CHinese people living outside of the rich states. Devide the above figure by 8.22 and you will get something less than 400 dollars per annum

    (around 370)
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    China's GDP was 13 trillion RMB (US$1.6 trillion)

    "rural and urban areas with the income disparity reaching some 3.2 times at 9,422 yuans for the urban household and 2,936 yuans for the rural household. "

    "China has 340 million families, with 3.63 people per household" (from the statistic bureau)

    Since the rural families usually have more members. We can use 3 people for each urban family and 4 for each rural family:

    0.5 billion Chinese live in urban area, 0.17 billion families:
    9422*0.17 billion = 1.6 trillion

    0.8 billion Chinese live in rural area, 0.2 billion families:
    2936 *0.2 billion = 0.6 trilliom

    1.6 + 0.6 =2.2 trllion.

    for GDP of 13 trillion, only 2.2 trillion was distributed to citizen?

    Is the above calculation correct?

    Aparantly the numbers in the article cannot be correct.

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    I have being trying to find a person to do some home work in my family, I can pay 600rmb per month plus living in my home (free) and eating with us(free) plus the traffic fares from/to her hometown.

    No one wants to take the job. I have to pay 15RMB per hour to my neithbours for house cleaning and cloth washing and so on

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneman28
    China's GDP was 13 trillion RMB (US$1.6 trillion)

    "rural and urban areas with the income disparity reaching some 3.2 times at 9,422 yuans for the urban household and 2,936 yuans for the rural household. "

    "China has 340 million families, with 3.63 people per household" (from the statistic bureau)

    Since the rural families usually have more members. We can use 3 people for each urban family and 4 for each rural family:

    0.5 billion Chinese live in urban area, 0.17 billion families:
    9422*0.17 billion = 1.6 trillion

    0.8 billion Chinese live in rural area, 0.2 billion families:
    2936 *0.2 billion = 0.6 trilliom

    1.6 + 0.6 =2.2 trllion.

    for GDP of 13 trillion, only 2.2 trillion was distributed to citizen?

    Is the above calculation correct?

    Aparantly the numbers in the article cannot be correct.

    Its not how you do it.

    And in any event if I were to take your conclusions then the per capita income wuld be even lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneman28
    I have being trying to find a person to do some home work in my family, I can pay 600rmb per month plus living in my home (free) and eating with us(free) plus the traffic fares from/to her hometown.

    No one wants to take the job. I have to pay 15RMB per hour to my neithbours for house cleaning and cloth washing and so on




    Really?


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    Some info about farmer income

    http://english.people.com.cn/200409/...20_157657.html

    Chinese farmers' income scored the highest growth rate of 16.1 percent in the first half of this year, with their per capita income reaching 1,345 yuan (about 162.5 US dollars).

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    Last updated at: (Beijing Time) Tuesday, April 15, 2003
    Survey Shows Wider Rural-Urban Per-capita Income Gap
    The per-capita income ratio between Chinese urban residents and rural dwellers in year 2002 expanded from 2.89:1 to 3.11:1 with the income gap turned out wider.
    http://english.people.com.cn/200304/...5_115219.shtml

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    Here you go

    Rural income rises, but growth slow
    ( 2004-01-26 08:58) (China Daily)


    Net income earned by China's rural residents per capita rose by 4.3 per cent last year compared with a year ago to 2,622 yuan (US$315.90), the National Bureau of Statistics said.
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/...ent_300981.htm
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    The figures are not made up oneman23 unless the National Bureau of Statistics of China lie too.

    The article is actually accurate.

    One can also check the Chinese National Bureau of Statistics for furthur details.

    http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/stat...ta/yearlydata/

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    Last edited by Sameer; 29 Sep 05, at 01:12.

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    What this does though in retrospect is that it guarantees high growth in China for a long time to come due to marginal product of capital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sameer
    What this does though in retrospect is that it guarantees high growth in China for a long time to come due to marginal product of capital.

    Per household and per capita, are there any difference between them?

    Another big difference between rural and urban resident in China is that rural residents never pay any tax or rental for the property on which they build their house. They need only register with gov.

    The gap was increasing. But trend is being changed since 2004. More farmers prefer to stay at home for farming rather than go to other areas to find a job in a factory. That's why Guangdong and other coastal area experienced the labour shortage since last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneman28
    Per household and per capita, are there any difference between them?

    Another big difference between rural and urban resident in China is that rural residents never pay any tax or rental for the property on which they build their house. They need only register with gov.

    The gap was increasing. But trend is being changed since 2004. More farmers prefer to stay at home for farming rather than go to other areas to find a job in a factory. That's why Guangdong and other coastal area experienced the labour shortage since last year.

    For your first question it really depends on the definition of a household in China, in some counries household only means taking the person(s) who work while per capita in general means taking the entire population, however sometimes even per worker is called per capita, so I cannot answer this question for sure.


    Rule of thumb

    Average Household income>per capita income but by how much depends on many factors, the difference may not be as wide in China due to a one child policy.
    In general one would prefer to look at GDP per worker and to get even more insight assign different mathematical functions to each worker category, ie from high skilled R&D to high skillled statistician to farmer....

    I think that the Central Govt increased the tax base to 1800Yuan compared to 1200 (around there) this year which should help the poorest.

    While there is a gap, if China is able to use it at their advatage, there is no doubt that those manufacturing jobs will shift from high wage areas to lower wage areas while high wage areas will move up, as is happening in China, to more sophisticated work. This essentially means that CHina could maintain higher growth rates for the next 40 years than is curently projected. However the Govt in China is already talking about soft landing etc, we will have to see.

    I am very optimistic about Chinese prospects in the future and i hope that noone interprets my posts as being "China sucks"., it certainly does not but it does face challenges.
    Last edited by Sameer; 29 Sep 05, at 03:06.

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    In piticular I can point to the east coast of China now moving into R&D and are doing excellent work in pharmaceuticals.

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    Originally Posted by Sameer
    Reality check

    The average per capita income of a Chinese outside of the prosperous eastern states is 354$ US a year.

    That is the same as India's poorest state, ie Bihar.
    This was what you said last time.
    The number you gave is the income per capita of the rural area, not all the residents in some province (you call state).

    India's income per capita was US$285. I cannot find the the number for rural residents and Bihar.
    http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/30income.htm

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