Thread: The label of Catholic terror was never used about the IRA

Basis for the article, work by

Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation.

So where in the article is it written that the Delhi based O.R.F is the basis for his allegation about Atta getting money from ISI ?

Dennis Lormel is a fool too.

Dont troll.
Read it again and let me know.
It is in English.

To get support from others. Religion is a uniting factor.

And of killing shias of iraq in hundreds by sunni terror pigs everyday, which religious unity are u talking of?

Originally Posted by Samudra

So where in the article is it written that the Delhi based O.R.F is the basis for his allegation about Atta getting money from ISI ?

Dennis Lormel is a fool too.

Dont troll.
Read it again and let me know.
It is in English.

Have you read it? It is a sad day when stereotypes are confirmed. Once again typical lala.

According to a recent report by the Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation

Here.

Dennis Lormel is a fool too.

It is John Pistole (FBI Deputy Director) I believe who made the allegations.

The source?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow?msid=107432

Look at that, hah. Read the article. Indian intelligence found the 'link'.
Since you are obvioulsy unable to read something written on another site, here

NEW DELHI: India played a key role in providing US authorities the information that funding for the September 11 attacks came from Pakistan.

Once again anything the Indians say about Pakistan is malicious in its intent (and to be fair vice-versa).

The 9-11 commission discounted the theory because others at FBI disagreed with it .

Not surprising looking at its source.

Originally Posted by sparten

Once again anything the Indians say about Pakistan is malicious in its intent (and to be fair vice-versa).

The 9-11 commission discounted the theory because others at FBI disagreed with it .

Not surprising looking at its source.

O.K lets give you more neutral information...Wikipedia.
http://www.answers.com/topic/respons...1-2001-attacks

A senior-level U.S. government source told CNN in October of 2001 that U.S. investigators believed Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (Ahmed Umar Syed Sheikh), a long time ISI asset, using the alias Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad, sent more than $100,000 from Pakistan to Mohammed Atta, the suspected hijack ringleader of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

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Moreover, The Wall Street Journal was one of the only Western news organizations to follow up on the story, citing the Times of India: "US authorities sought [Gen. Mahmud Ahmed's] removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 [was] wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahumd." [17]

(http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298) The best coverage came from The Daily Excelsior, reporting "The FBI’s examination of the hard disk of the cellphone company Omar Sheikh had subscribed to led to the discovery of the 'link' between him and the deposed chief of the Pakistani ISI, Gen. Mehmood Ahmed. And as the FBI investigators delved deep, sensational information surfaced with regard to the transfer of 100,000 dollars to Mohammed Atta, one of the Kamikaze pilots who flew his Boeing into the World Trade Centre. Gen. Mehmood Ahmed, the FBI investigators found, fully knew about the transfer of money to Atta."

http://www.dawn.com/2001/10/09/top13.htm
Gen Mahmud's exit due to links with Umar Sheikh
Monitoring Desk

NEW DELHI, Oct 8:Director General of Pakistan's Inter- Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt Gen Mahmud Ahmed has been replaced after the FBI investigators established credible links between him and Umar Sheikh, one of the three militants released in exchange for passengers of the hijacked Indian Airlines plane in 1999.

The FBI team, which had sought adequate inputs about various terrorists including Sheikh from the intelligence agencies, was working on the linkages between Sheikh and former ISI chief Gen Mahmud which are believed to have been substantiated, reports PTI website.

Informed sources said there were enough indications with the US intelligence agencies that it was at Gen Mahmud's instruction that Sheikh had transferred 100,000 US dollars into the account of Mohammed Atta, one of the lead terrorists in strikes at the World Trade Centre on Sept 11, it adds.

Sparten,

Have you read it? It is a sad day when stereotypes are confirmed. Once again typical lala.

What was based on the delhi based O.R.F?
Read here ....(from the same Guardian Link I posted)

During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, the US funded large numbers of jihadists through Pakistan's secret intelligence service, the ISI. Later the US wanted to raise another jihadi corps, again using proxies, to help Bosnian Muslims fight to weaken the Serb government's hold on Yugoslavia. Those they turned to included Pakistanis in Britain.

According to a recent report by the Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation, a contingent was also sent by the Pakistani government, then led by Benazir Bhutto, at the request of the Clinton administration. This contingent was formed from the Harkat-ul- Ansar (HUA) terrorist group and trained by the ISI. The report estimates that about 200 Pakistani Muslims living in the UK went to Pakistan, trained in HUA camps and joined the HUA's contingent in Bosnia. Most significantly, this was "with the full knowledge and complicity of the British and American intelligence agencies".

According to the delhi based ORF : US wanted to raise Jihadi corps to help Bosnian muslims.Wonder how you understood it that way!

So show me where the article claims that its information about the fund transfer was based on ORF's claims.

Samudra,

As you might have seen if you had bothered reading my post,

I pointed out that the claim that it had come from Pakistan had come from Indian Intelligence. I pointed out that ORF was used as a source for the article.

A senior-level U.S. government source told CNN in October of 2001 that U.S. investigators believed Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (Ahmed Umar Syed Sheikh), a long time ISI asset, using the alias Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad, sent more than $100,000 from Pakistan to Mohammed Atta, the suspected hijack ringleader of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Lemontree sir, discredited in 9-11 report. Morever Wikipedia is not exactly the best source for contentious news, since it is the most energetic rather than the most well-informed user who will get the point across.

Moreover, The Wall Street Journal was one of the only Western news organizations to follow up on the story, citing the Times of India: "US authorities sought [Gen. Mahmud Ahmed's] removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 [was] wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahumd." [17]

Resaon nobody else followed it is obvious from reading the post. The sources are Indian.

The removal of the ISI chief in October of 2001 was IIRC since he opposed allowing a situation in which the N.Alliance came to power. At least this is what people have said.

The Pakistan involvement in 9-11 is about as credible as then news about jews being told to skip work at WTC on Tuesday September 11 2001.