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    North Korea agrees to disarm?

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    North Korea agrees to give up nuclear programs
    CTV.ca News Staff

    In a stunning development at the six-party international talks, North Korea has agreed to give up all its nuclear programs and rejoin the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as soon as possible.

    In return, the secretive communist country will get energy aid and security guarantees.

    "This is the most important result since the six-party talks started more than two years ago,'' said Wu Dawei, China's vice foreign minister, in Beijing on Monday.

    The talks' participants include China, Russia, Japan, the United States and North and South Korea.

    The North "promised to drop all nuclear weapons and current nuclear programs ... as soon as possible and to accept inspections" by the International Atomic Energy Agency, according to the unanimous agreement reached by the countries at the talks being held in Beijing.

    "All six parties emphasized that to realize the inspectable denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula is the target of the six-party talks,'' the statement said.

    The United States and North Korea pledged to respect each other's sovereignty and right to peaceful coexistence.

    "The United States affirmed that is has no nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula and has no intention to attack or invade (North Korea) with nuclear or conventional weapons,'' according to the statement, in assurances echoed by South Korea.

    A door was left open to North Korea resuming a civilian nuclear program at some future point if it regains international trust.

    During negotiations, North Korea had asked for a light-water reactor -- which is less able to be used for producing nuclear weapons -- but the U.S. and other countries weren't prepared to meet that request.

    Further talks will be held in November to work on the details of what was agreed upon in these talks.

    There are some sticking points.

    North Korea doesn't want to totally disarm without getting concessions. Washington has said it wants the weapons programs completely gone before rewarding North Korea.

    The statement includes a clause saying the agreement will be implemented "in a phased manner in line with the principle of `commitment for commitment, action for action'."

    Background

    In 1993, North Korea announced it would withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), designed to halt the spread of nuclear weapons.

    The U.S. and North Korea reached a deal in 1994 in which the North Koreans would get its graphite-moderated reactors -- which can easily produce weapons-grade plutonium for nuclear bombs -- replaced with light-water reactors.

    In return, the U.S. was to provide fuel oil to compensate for lost electricity output during the switchover period.

    However, the deal was more of a memo of understanding than a formal treaty.

    By 1999, cracks started to grow between the two countries, and in 2002, relations had mostly disintegrated. That year, U.S. President George W. Bush declared in his State of the Union speech that North Korea, along with Syria and Iraq, were part of an "axis of evil."

    North Korea restarted a reactor and kicked international nuclear inspectors out of the country.

    In January 2003, North Korea formally withdrew from the NPT. In April, the U.S. said North Korea admitted it had nuclear weapons.

    But then the six-party talks started in August of that year. However, North Korea dropped out of the talks in August 2004, only rejoining them in late July.

    Before the talks restarted, South Korea offered North Korea huge amounts of electricity in a mid-July proposal.

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    Oh, well, cool, then, huh? All that bickering over nothing in the end.

    Whew. I thought the whole mess was going to be really complicated and dangerous.

    Color me 'relieved'.

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    I wonder why they just decided to call it quits so suddenly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by leibstandarte10
    I wonder why they just decided to call it quits so suddenly...
    They got what they wanted all along.
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    SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea said Tuesday it would not dismantle its nuclear weapons program until the United States first provides an atomic energy reactor, casting doubt on its commitment to a breakthrough agreement reached at international arms talks.

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    I'm not skeptical about this agreement. I think North Korea is only buying time and will step out of this agreement later, accusing the US of not willing to negotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloMax
    I'm not skeptical about this agreement. I think North Korea is only buying time and will step out of this agreement later, accusing the US of not willing to negotiate.
    Sorry, I AM skeptical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloMax
    Sorry, I AM skeptical...
    So what's to be done?
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    So what's to be done?
    Set a time table for negotiations, with the threat of effective economic sanction (on part of China and South Korea).

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    North Korea said Tuesday it would not dismantle its nuclear weapons program until the United States first provides an atomic energy reactor, casting doubt on its commitment to a breakthrough agreement reached at international arms talks.
    That confirms my skepticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloMax
    That confirms my skepticism.
    Mine too!!! But still better....i mean atleast they are showing indications atht they are willing to give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull
    Mine too!!! But still better....i mean atleast they are showing indications atht they are willing to give up.
    I never meant to downplay the achievements of the negotiators, but I think NK is playing a dangerous poker game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloMax
    Set a time table for negotiations, with the threat of effective economic sanction (on part of China and South Korea).
    If China doesn't agree, then what?
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloMax
    I never meant to downplay the achievements of the negotiators, but I think NK is playing a dangerous poker game.
    Absolutely correct. I think the North Koreans learned the wrong lesson from the Euro/Iranian comedy, tried to make the same play, and ended up bungling it badly.

    North Korea isn't Iran, and doesn't have the same cards in its hand to play. Second, the US isn't Europe (thank God), and has no intention of going down the same blind alley with North Korea that the Europeans went down with Iran. And finally, the Iranians were always just playing for time, as it served their goal of increasing their relative power and correllation of forces relative to their enemies. North Korea does not find itself of the make; they wane, while their enemies wax.

    However, we have unfortunately conditioned them to believe that they can get the better of us in negotiations, because of the disastrous deals they were able to ink with the previous administration. And therein lies their last, and worst, miscalculation: George W. Bush is NOT Bill Clinton (and for this fact I am MOST thankful).
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