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    I am not stupid to make such remarks: Musharraf

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...-0,right-0.cms

    NEW YORK: Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has said he was not so insensitive that he would accuse rape victims of exploiting their ordeal, as reported by a US newspaper.

    Responding to a Washington Post interview quoting him as saying that some rape victims used their ordeal to get visas to Western countries, the president said on Friday: "I am not stupid to make such remarks."

    Musharraf's response was published in the Dawn newspaper on Saturday. He confirmed that Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin did speak to him about his alleged remarks but said the Canadian leader did not ask him to apologise...

    The Washington Post interview was published on Tuesday and the same day Martin told a news conference at the United Nations that Musharraf should apologise for making such remarks.

    "I stated unequivocally that comments such as that are not acceptable and that violence against women is also a blight that besmirches all humanity," Martin said.

    There has been an outcry from Pakistani rights groups and opposition politicians over the reported remark by Musharraf made in the context of gang-rape victim Mukhtaran Mai.

    Musharraf is reported to have said in the interview: "This has become a moneymaking concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped,"
    Ha!

    The interesting thing to note is how quick and ready the anti-Pakistan mechanisms are, to go trigger-happy and blow things out of proportion and context.

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    As I expected a retraction from the mooh-phat.

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    All this shows who is what .
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    Its not a retraction, it points out how some people desperately wanted him to mean something that he never meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim Aquil
    Its not a retraction, it points out how some people desperately wanted him to mean something that he never meant.
    Very good. First put foot in to mouth & then blame others for it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim Aquil
    Its not a retraction, it points out how some people desperately wanted him to mean something that he never meant.

    Asim my brother this is not the first time he has been miss quoted as he puts it. First he makes a bongi and then says the opposite.

    Previously he said something about Iran to a german newspaper and then said he was miss quoted.

    But then again we cannot blame the poor guy as he is mostly under the influence of Alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lahori Paa jee
    Asim my brother this is not the first time he has been miss quoted as he puts it. First he makes a bongi and then says the opposite.

    Previously he said something about Iran to a german newspaper and then said he was miss quoted.

    But then again we cannot blame the poor guy as he is mostly under the influence of Alcohol.
    Is that allowed in Islam?
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    Truth accidently slipped from his tongue, reflecting his true, couped up inner feelings on how women should be treated in Pakistan. Now he trying to wriggle his way out.

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    Thats an assinine belief. Live in your own little world if you want to. After all youknow what Musharraf believes not Musharraf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim Aquil
    Thats an assinine belief. Live in your own little world if you want to. After all youknow what Musharraf believes not Musharraf.
    Musahraff is one of the architects of Kargil. And he should be trusted by Indians to deliver peace?

    Pak army has been islamised by Zia. There is nothing Perry Mushy can do. Au contrair, he is a product of Zia's regime.

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    Is this not the same mushraff who made a stupid comment in press meat that " pakistanis speak better english than INDIANS"
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    Quote Originally Posted by indianguy4u
    Is that allowed in Islam?
    Actually alcohol use is not allowed in Islam. But i know so many who drink and drink alot. And Musharraf and his group of corps comdrs are known habitual drinkers. Musharrafs wife also gives him company.

    But then Who cares

    Remember these famous words by Musharraf. He said those during Kargil when he was filmed by BBC smoking and when asked by the reporter should u be doing that. He said those words.

    It meant he does not care about anyone meaning his boss Nawaz Sharif.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lahori Paa jee
    Actually alcohol use is not allowed in Islam. But i know so many who drink and drink alot. And Musharraf and his group of corps comdrs are known habitual drinkers. Musharrafs wife also gives him company.

    But then Who cares

    Remember these famous words by Musharraf. He said those during Kargil when he was filmed by BBC smoking and when asked by the reporter should u be doing that. He said those words.

    It meant he does not care about anyone meaning his boss Nawaz Sharif.
    Mindblowing
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    I was disgusted by his comments, Musharraf certainly isn't a good spokesman.

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    Aryan heres more of Musharaff's eloquence. What I would have given to be a fly on the wall.......

    Musharraf's address to women marked by shouting matches

    From Our Special Correspondent
    NEW YORK: -- Scenes of indiscipline marked by mutual shouting by indivduals holding conflicting points of view were witnessed Saturday at a meeting organized thighlight Presiident Pervez Musharraf's contribution to women's cause.
    The atmosphere at the meeting attended by hundreds of women was vitiated by the aggressive questioning style of a woman participant which seem to anger the president who accused her of working against the national interests.
    “You are against me and Pakistan,” said the president thundered when the woman referred to his alleged comments in a Washington Post interview which quoted Gen. Musharraf as saying that women exploited rape to get visas.
    Provoked by a single question, the president allowed an event held to promote his government’s pro-women policies to degenerate into a shouting match between himself and part of the invited audience.
    I am a fighter, I will fight you. I do not give up and if you can shout, I can shout louder,” Gen. Musharraf declared.
    “I wish you had quoted Muslim scholars as opposed to British scholars
    ,” said the president to the woman who had quoted some American scholars to make her point.
    Responding to the woman’s charge that he had retracted his interview to the Washington Post in which he was quoted as saying that some women used rape to get visa, Gen. Musharraf said: “Lady, you are used to people who tell lies. I am not one of them.”
    In an indirect reference to opposition politicians in Pakistan, the president said: “We have introduced new leaders you don’t tell lies unlike your leaders who did.”
    “You have disappointed me. I am disappointed with people like you. You work with people who looted and plundered the nation. You are against national interest.”
    He said that people like her had some personal agenda for highlighting cases that hurt Pakistan’s reputation. “I know that there are people with vested interests and financial interests who are against Pakistan.”
    Musharraf said his government was doing all for women's emancipation and would continue to do so. "Pakistan is going up, and this upward swing could not be altered," he told a packed hall of Pakistani-American women.
    The President said women had been accorded enhanced representation in Pakistan right from the level of union councils to the levels of the parliament.
    He cited enactments on gender inequality, setting up of a commission for women's welfare, action plan for women's uplift, national fund for rural area women, efforts aimed at curbing violence against women, adoption of a bill against gender inequality, and extention of legal aid to violence victims.

    http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/sep-2005/18/index16.php

    I don't think Mush actually believes what he said earlier, but boy was it ever dumb.

    Also why is Mush saying hes gunna fight a women? I know in Islam your allowed to discipline your wife by beating her, but are you allowed to discipline random women?

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