The U. S. says, that Iran is an Islamist fundamentalist nation. Iran knows that most of the U. S. follows the Christian faith, and that all of the visible govt. employees are Christian, in the U. S. And, Iran does not call the U. S. a fundamentalist nation following an, or any, particular faith. If I were Iranian, I would think the U. S. is anti-Islam.
The U. S. President says, "God bless America". Jesus Christ went to the Cross, because it would justify the Super Power status of the United States? I mean, Jesus Christ went to the Cross, and Americans appreciate his sacrifice, because they will be motivated to live a good life, justified by his being crucified?
The American government must know this. No power can stop them from making Iran an economic non-participant. If the U. S. tells China, and India, that they will not trade with Iran, what will these nations do? The U. S. is the force of the world economy. It controls the world economy completely. It really is looking at her business interests, and not her security interests, but perhaps, one does not exist without the other.
Is the U. S. a world leader, as president Obama says? No one is taking the U. S. seriously. They see America wanting to sell them IPads, IMacs, and they want this from America. The U. S. wants to be a world leader, so that they can sell the world products.
Israel has a leadership, which is pretty impressive. I mean, nearly all their Prime Minister's were heading the most professional army, or perceived as such, in the world. And, why are they important? Because the United States is executing their policies, around the world. The opinion is, the various Israeli ministries are telling the U. S., what their objectives are, so that when the help is required, which is inevitable, the U. S. will oblige. The Israeli's are the most unfortunate state, because where their leaders can be World Leaders, they are seen as not believing it. Is the U. S. going to do anything in Iran? For Iran? Maybe, against Iran?
The global citizen sees his nation as being aligned to 'great powers', and is totally disillusioned about his nation. The United States citizen is elated, because the U. S. is a 'world leader', and if the world follows the U. S., then why should the U. S., introspect?
Last edited by AdityaMookerjee; 12 May 12, at 17:32.
US can't control Iran in the they used to control Gulf nations in 80s and 90s. with passage of time, US will accept Iran as a powerful country. US will be left with only one option, that is to be friendly with Iran. US's economy and its strength isn't capable enough to control Iran within limits, its a truth which they understand quite well nowOriginally Posted by AdityaMookerjee
Yeah because only the United States is concerned about Iran and their long long record of friendly relations. ONLY the United States.
Israel, too. But it's all one and the same, right?
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
Wherever you are going with this you won't get to the conclusion that Iran and the US have the same governing structure in terms of religion. It's true the US is a predominantly Christian nation, and acknowledgement of a higher being is expressed by leaders within the halls of government, but that's where the comparison ends. The US separates its government from religion. There is no official religion. There is no Ayatollah, Pope or Archbishop sitting at the top of power to ensure that government is religiously correct. We have 13 Jewish senators, 1 Muslim congressman, and have had many Jewish cabinet members and Supreme Court justices. Iranian know full well that the US government is not structured like theirs, and all their attempts to draw parallels are fanciful. Check out this letter: Full Text : The President of Iran's Letter To President Bush
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Correct on both counts. Only the US and Israel (nobody else) and Israel is the 51st state.
Sir, US’s history is very tough to discuss and sometimes its very simple also. one day a IAS level officer told me that US’s foreign policy follow three simple steps. First, either buy a country, or, make it corrupt, or, finally attack on that country if nothing worked. And he also said, “its always very easy to understand policy of those who may do anything. As, if they may do anything then they generally can’t make difference between right and wrong, as, anyhow they can do whatever they want and nothing can happen to them?”………………….
US always has someone on their gun point and rest are in their waiting list. Their wars will never end as they want the whole world to follow US/West in return of security guarante from US and once a country will adopt to follow US, one day it will have to pay taxes to US, send their high skills to US to work for their industries, its military will have to work for US, and their culture also to be transformed into the Western culture one day. A complete control in terms of military, finance, people, culture etc they want and till then they will try to ‘fix’ that country. similarly how British ruled India by making the Indian people paying tax to them, taking top skills from India to run British industries and then sell those British products in India itself to feed British workers, transferring all the Indian wealth including gold/ diamond to Britain and on the top of that, teaching Western culture/ english language to Indians with defining Hinduism a sign of backwardless also………..
US/ West just can’t understand existance of any ‘successful’ identitiy, why and how to remove it, their only effort, and how many economical/ political or finally military level wars is required to get all this done, US wants to find out. US's/Western Champions always have something to get done somewhere in world and someone is always on their gun point and you always have to resist them. If we go through the history of US with Brazil, their deeds with South American countries, then we find they were not satisfied with even Christian religious background/ Western life style/ dominance of english language in South America, but in fact, they wanted the South Americans to become true slaves of US, with generating a sense in Brazilian society that only aim of their young people would be to go to US and they would only hate their native place, their ‘born identity’, and this way getting the 'creemy layer/ high skills' of their society by making a rush in that country to go to US/ West. Everyone of that country would only dream to go to US and hate their own society/ country, and to get this done, that certain country would be destroyed enough to that level when only followers of US/ West would remain dominant in that country. and this is what US finally want to achieve in any country and till then they will keep ‘fixing’ something in that particular country. you always have to resist US/ West and having friendship with US has a simple meaning that you want to give them space to help them get their work done in your country. as, we know that they simply don’t recognize existance of any other state/ identity/ culture/ religion and they only want their followers………….
Sunny,
But, but, Iran has been a thorn in US's eye for 30+ years now.
How that fits in your observation?
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
Sir, I have been reading international politics for over 20-25 years, with having eyes on many articles closely and I would like to share my few of the learning with you.
A long time before, I read in one western article that US/ West were waiting for China to do nuclear test and then they wanted to introduce NPT to include China also. and why? Then the reason was, if there might not be any nuclear power China and then having its threats to the ‘friendly’ countries like Japan/ Korea/ Taiwan etc, was there any reason why Japan/ Korea/ Taiwan etc had to become true slaves of US/ West while threatened with China? I mean, if there might be ‘equality’ in world then was there any reason why US would give ‘security guarantee’ to any country in threat of the country like China and also like how US could enslave East European countries in threat of Russia? We know that NPT recognize 5 states as nuclear powers and there is no control on them for making nuclear weapons but rest of the world would be policed with its production, and there were certain reasons to include China in this list. its was believed that first US will have enslaved all those states who will be threatened with China/ Russia and finally China/ Russia will also surrender to US/West. But India didn’t go in the trap of US and did its own nuclear test, Smiling Buddha, in 1974 and made strong alignment with SU/ Russia.
Same we find in Gulf nations. Iran and Israel are put there as a threat and rest of the Arab nations are enslaved with providing ‘security guarantee’ to them. US/ West analyzed Shia-Sunni conflicts, along with Jews-Muslims conflicts and then US/ West have made these regional countries to fight with each others to rule them all. Remember the ‘Divide and Rule’ policy of Britain, if you have done primary education in India. US had very bad history with Iran, killing Iran’s civilians, but it was more to make them like this, to keep them always fighting and then US may have enough space to ‘help’ other countries of that Gulf region. Have a look on the Arab nations, they are now true slaves of US while threatened with Iran/ Israel, similar to Pakistan. They use US’s military arms and this way they just can’t go against US no matter what happens to them. Like 26/11 2011 of Pakistan, but Pakistan couldn’t go against US as they use US’s arms itself and if they go against US, US will cut supply of ‘spare parts’ of US’s arms, this way making Pakistan a true slave of US and now US can do whatever they want to do with Pakistan. The same is true for the Arab nations also who buy US’s arms. So, don’t you find Iran an Independent country in that region and Arabs are the slaves of US like Pakistan and even if India was on the other side of US during Cold War, India isnt a slave of US like Pakistan and can freely defend itself from any external threat?
Power politics is always tough to discuss and we blame only that person for this mess who had the most of strengths in past, but he didn’t let the world ‘equalized’. US always wanted the world to fight with each other and then they want to bring the countries in the position to get help from US and in return these countries would do what US tells them. We all know how US tried hard to attack India and also encouraged China to attack on India in 1972 but recently I read a news that its US who offered India help in 1972 war? and then I was made to think that soon US may ‘fund/ encourage’ China to attack on India to get enough reasons to ‘help’ India and in return India would become a true slave of US. we know US has bought many Indian journalists and rest we would see many things in coming time…………………
US promised India help if China attacked during 1971 Indo-Pak war - Times Of India
It's about the same time our former countries started to dissolve, no surprises we all got politicized at that time.
According to declassified documents Americans were preparing a conventional attack on China's facilities, but given the tech of the time and the size of China, they got it all wrong and thought they have from 6 months to 2 years period before the Chinese are ready. Similarities with Iran?A long time before, I read in one western article that US/ West were waiting for China to do nuclear test and then they wanted to introduce NPT to include China also. and why? Then the reason was, if there might not be any nuclear power China and then having its threats to the ‘friendly’ countries like Japan/ Korea/ Taiwan etc, was there any reason why Japan/ Korea/ Taiwan etc had to become true slaves of US/ West while threatened with China? I mean, if there might be ‘equality’ in world then was there any reason why US would give ‘security guarantee’ to any country in threat of the country like China and also like how US could enslave East European countries in threat of Russia? We know that NPT recognize 5 states as nuclear powers and there is no control on them for making nuclear weapons but rest of the world would be policed with its production, and there were certain reasons to include China in this list. its was believed that first US will have enslaved all those states who will be threatened with China/ Russia and finally China/ Russia will also surrender to US/West. But India didn’t go in the trap of US and did its own nuclear test, Smiling Buddha, in 1974 and made strong alignment with SU/ Russia.
Except for Taiwan, USSR was enough of a boogeyman for Korea and Japan I'd say.
Iran and Israel were friends during the Shah, they were even developing a missile together.Same we find in Gulf nations. Iran and Israel are put there as a threat and rest of the Arab nations are enslaved with providing ‘security guarantee’ to them. US/ West analyzed Shia-Sunni conflicts, along with Jews-Muslims conflicts and then US/ West have made these regional countries to fight with each others to rule them all. Remember the ‘Divide and Rule’ policy of Britain, if you have done primary education in India. US had very bad history with Iran, killing Iran’s civilians, but it was more to make them like this, to keep them always fighting and then US may have enough space to ‘help’ other countries of that Gulf region. Have a look on the Arab nations, they are now true slaves of US while threatened with Iran/ Israel, similar to Pakistan. They use US’s military arms and this way they just can’t go against US no matter what happens to them. Like 26/11 2011 of Pakistan, but Pakistan couldn’t go against US as they use US’s arms itself and if they go against US, US will cut supply of ‘spare parts’ of US’s arms, this way making Pakistan a true slave of US and now US can do whatever they want to do with Pakistan. The same is true for the Arab nations also who buy US’s arms. So, don’t you find Iran an Independent country in that region and Arabs are the slaves of US like Pakistan and even if India was on the other side of US during Cold War, India isnt a slave of US like Pakistan and can freely defend itself from any external threat?
Same assurances China got if USSR nuked themPower politics is always tough to discuss and we blame only that person for this mess who had the most of strengths in past, but he didn’t let the world ‘equalized’. US always wanted the world to fight with each other and then they want to bring the countries in the position to get help from US and in return these countries would do what US tells them. We all know how US tried hard to attack India and also encouraged China to attack on India in 1972 but recently I read a news that its US who offered India help in 1972 war? and then I was made to think that soon US may ‘fund/ encourage’ China to attack on India to get enough reasons to ‘help’ India and in return India would become a true slave of US. we know US has bought many Indian journalists and rest we would see many things in coming time…………………
US promised India help if China attacked during 1971 Indo-Pak war - Times Of India
You use the term slave so often? Care to explains how entire nations were enslaved?
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
In fact, inviting Western culture in India is nothing but about inviting ‘Single Mother’ culture in India from West. Western Champions of Christian religious background themselves shy to accept that Mr Jesus Christ was also son of a Single Mother, similar to common Western nationals who aren’t sure about their father, but these Christian background Western people try to prove that Mr Jesus Christ directly came from sky in place to saying that he was also one of the common Western people. They themselves don’t want to accept that Mr Jesus Christ was also from a Single Mother, while being shameful, but these Western Christian religious background people want the whole world to adopt this Western culture. And I can’t understand, if they themselves are shameful enough to say that their lord, Mr Jesus Christ, was one of the generation of Single Mother then why they want the whole world to become like this. In place of fixing their disease, why they want to spread it in whole world?
Im scared of that day when Indian kids will have to give name of their mother in schools like Australia type Western country, not name of father like in India, because right now a Western kid just can’t guarantee who exactly was his/ her father. And in place of fixing their disease, these Western democratic champions want to spread it in whole world, why, its beyond my limits to think……………….
I'm sorry, what?
We're all a bunch of bastards
EDIT: Upon reading again perhaps he means all Australians are a bunch of bastards. While some may say so, I couldn't possibly comment.
Last edited by Parihaka; 17 May 12, at 03:27.
"...They themselves don’t want to accept that Mr Jesus Christ was also from a Single Mother..."
Yup. Gotta wonder how Joseph felt with this whole "...immaculate conception..." thingy. I'm sure that wasn't HIS plan.
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Looks to me like the whole world is picking up on it without any help from the west. You have Russian rappers...
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