Lei Feng Day Draws Chinese Cynicism

**Officer of Engineers** · 10 Apr 12,, 15:44

Originally Posted by Z timezone

It seemed you once combat with communist army.

Something I need to tell you.I respect all the warriors no matter what nationnality are you in.
I speak for Lei Feng because I dont want to see my country was in shame. I know many soliders who did't end their career in military. I can understand how are you feeling.
Forgiving my rudeness.SORRY

You don't know shit. And you understand shit.

**Doktor** · 10 Apr 12,, 16:04

This won't end good for our Chinese friend.

Oh, well... let's see if he can learn something.

**Z timezone** · 10 Apr 12,, 16:20

Originally Posted by astralis

you're ignorant of your own nation's history, you're ignorant of the life of lei feng, you don't know why your own Party likes to promote lei feng.

here's a question for you. what do members of your People's Liberation Army swear an oath to? to their country, to their people, to their Constitution, or...to their Party?

I know my country's history.You need't to tell me my country's history.I know how many people died in the rigimen of ccp.China has changed a lot.Army swear to the party.

For you American,You thought Lei Feng is just a tool that to rule people Logically.

But what's the wrong with his quality.You guys still did't understand my meaning.It's none of ccp's business.It's just quality of his character!character!character!character!
Can You?

**Z timezone** · 10 Apr 12,, 16:38

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

No, they didn't. They wanted to chase the Americans into the sea. They lost.

They denied you South Korea.

It was idiotic on how you ignore fundamental military thoughts that took over 5000 years to develop.

You don't know shit about any army.

Chinese just want to chase alliance back to South Korea.Chasing to sea is Kim' mind

South Korea! WOW !honor! So why did't stop at 1950,why they bombed Yalu River? Tell me if alliance just want to keep a south Korea ,why they cross the 38line?did they got what he want?
Someone got nothing but 60000 bodies from Vietnam.You did't know my country's ancient military mind.
Can you tell me the shit of the army? You're a professional,tell me.Solider is a citizen first.

**Z timezone** · 10 Apr 12,, 16:44

I know the reason that why there are so many attritions between Eastern and Western

**Z timezone** · 10 Apr 12,, 16:49

Originally Posted by Doktor

This won't end good for our Chinese friend.

Oh, well... let's see if he can learn something.

Oh! Thanks for watching my show

**xinhui** · 10 Apr 12,, 22:14

Originally Posted by Z timezone

I'm sorry for my terrible English.I mean the Chinese are becoming selfish ,lazy, greedy .Do you know the corrpution was not only seen in goverment? They are spreading all over.School,business,public transportation,medical. Do you often browse some Chinese forum? Do you find many young man are not loving their motherland.
I think you must know Chinese langguang,go to this : ÈÕ±¾¤Î¼Ò°É_°Ù¶ÈÌù°É

selfish ,lazy, greedy = human nature, remember greed is good. See that video I posted?

If you have issues with corruption, don't blame the people, blame the absent of the rule-of-law as governed by .... what you call it, that is right, your "motherland".

**Officer of Engineers** · 11 Apr 12,, 03:54

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Chinese just want to chase alliance back to South Korea.Chasing to sea is Kim' mind

I actually phrased it wrong. Pen Dehuai wanted to destroy the 8th Army.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

South Korea! WOW !honor! So why did't stop at 1950,why they bombed Yalu River? Tell me if alliance just want to keep a south Korea ,why they cross the 38line?did they got what he want?

Because of another idiot, Douglas MacArthur but that's neither here nor there, we're speaking strictly of Chinese Operational Objectives.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Someone got nothing but 60000 bodies from Vietnam.

The Vietnamese admitted to nothing. And you're bullshitting. Beijing claims 50,000 Vietnamese casualties. You're adding in 10,000 as chest thumping.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

You did't know my country's ancient military mind.

I know it far better than you. You're referring to the ART OF WAR, I assume. As far as military history goes, a very important piece of document. It was the first field manual that ever existed. As such, its impact on military thought was monumental ... BUT IT HAS BEEN SURPASSED! You bring that book to the modern battlefield and I will kill you.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Can you tell me the shit of the army?

You're not here to learn. You're here to preach. Only thing is you're preaching to people who knows better than you.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

You're a professional,tell me.Solider is a citizen first.

Hardly. Mercenaries.

S2 · 11 Apr 12,, 05:21

Ahhh...this thread started out with SOOO much promise. Somebody always has to be serious...obstinately so.

Poor Lei Feng. I still would love to see LEI FENG DOES HOLLYWOOD. It would make a great movie.

**Z timezone** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:08

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I actually phrased it wrong. Pen Dehuai wanted to destroy the 8th Army.

Because of another idiot, Douglas MacArthur but that's neither here nor there, we're speaking strictly of Chinese Operational Objectives.

The Vietnamese admitted to nothing. And you're bullshitting. Beijing claims 50,000 Vietnamese casualties. You're adding in 10,000 as chest thumping.

I know it far better than you. You're referring to the ART OF WAR, I assume. As far as military history goes, a very important piece of document. It was the first field manual that ever existed. As such, its impact on military thought was monumental ... BUT IT HAS BEEN SURPASSED! You bring that book to the modern battlefield and I will kill you.

You're not here to learn. You're here to preach. Only thing is you're preaching to people who knows better than you.

Hardly. Mercenaries.

The precise number is 58220, round for 60000.Not good at math? I'm not a solider. But I know our culuture better than you.
It's ridiculous that I combat with you. So how about Canada VS China. Focus,only Canada.Can you?
Mercenaries?Seriously? Yaeh,I learnt lots today.

**Z timezone** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:13

Originally Posted by xinhui

selfish ,lazy, greedy = human nature, remember greed is good. See that video I posted?

If you have issues with corruption, don't blame the people, blame the absent of the rule-of-law as governed by .... what you call it, that is right, your "motherland".

Were you from China before? If you were ,what changed you so much?

**Z timezone** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:15

Originally Posted by xinhui

selfish ,lazy, greedy = human nature, remember greed is good. See that video I posted?

If you have issues with corruption, don't blame the people, blame the absent of the rule-of-law as governed by .... what you call it, that is right, your "motherland".

Not only for law,the people's heart is the big deal

**Officer of Engineers** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:15

Originally Posted by Z timezone

The precise number is 58220, round for 60000.Not good at math? I'm not a solider.

What kind of horse puckey are you putting forth? Neither Beijing nor Hanoi ever published any figures. And I strongly doubt that you have access to casualty lists.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

But I know our culuture better than you.

I really don't care. Lei Feng is still a bad soldier no matter which way you twist it. He did not pay attention. He died.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

It's ridiculous that I combat with you.

This is combat?

Originally Posted by Z timezone

So how about Canada VS China.

Kap'yong. We won that one.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Focus,only Canada.Can you?

Why? This is not about Canada. This is about Lei Feng being a bad soldier and the PLA a bad army until 1979.

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Mercenaries?Seriously? Yaeh,I learnt lots today.

You learned nothing.

**Officer of Engineers** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:18

Originally Posted by Z timezone

Not only for law,the people's heart is the big deal

Do you work for a living?

**Doktor** · 11 Apr 12,, 06:29

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

What kind of horse puckey are you putting forth? Neither Beijing nor Hanoi ever published any figures. And I strongly doubt that you have access to casualty lists.

I believe he is referring to wiki Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It claims 58,272 US military deaths, 153,303 WIA and 1,672 MIA.

The source for the wiki article is Vietnam Veterans Memorial fund.