Thread: EU Dictatorship in Greece?

Originally Posted by Mihais

either stupid or malevolent.

Given the EUs history on democracy what do you reckon?

Originally Posted by Mihais

I humbly ask wtf are these ''experts'' thinking?Those who argued against their ''solutions'' weren't few and it was quite common sense they won't work.

They were 'reactionary far right lunatics' etc... because they warned that the single currency, in its very structure, would undermine national sovereignty. To be fair some of them were apparently a little 'eccentric'; I am told that one old Conservative MP used to say "Bless you" whenever an MP or Minister mentioned ECU (this being the polite response in Britain when someone sneezes). You are right though; the single currency as it was origional set out inevitably created the problems they face today. Of course what it is realy about on another level is trade imbalances; Germany always had the industrial base to export to Southern Europe and France has an inbuilt agricultural advantage (CAP) so the trade balance favours those countries more aligned to them (which is kind of the point when avoiding war is the goal). If Greece etc had retained their own currencies then their currencies would have dropped relative to the D-mark and Franc and the system would have self righted itself; it becomes more expensive for Greeks to buy German cars etc... and cheaper for Germans to buy Greek holidays etc... Of course if one looks at the problem in terms of trade imbalances it actualy looks worse. Greece would need 10-15 yrs and billions of euros of investment as well as 'structural reforms' to the tax system etc etc to compete with Germany or Sweden. It also looks worse in that they are trying to politicaly enforce this trade imbalance essentialy 'forever'.

The system is unelected and unaccountable and has failed economicly. The sooner these idelogues are kicked out of power the less blood will be spilt. If they continue to disregard our democratic rights it will end undemocraticly.

Originally Posted by Doktor

Telegraph has a reply to everything?

Was the Bundesbank.

Greek options as an interactive book: So, what would your plan for Greece be? — Crooked Timber

"Welcome to Choose Your Own Troika Program For Greece! You are a junior member of the One World Government, and you have been given the job of coming up with a proposal to resolve the Greek crisis. You have also been given an advisor who will help you talk through the consequences of decisions. Remember that you have to consider the economic consequences of the various policy choices, but that there is no point in submitting a proposal which is politically unacceptable to either the Troika or the Greek government. Good luck!"

Quite fun but I wanted to sack 'Maynard' and donate his salary to a Greek healthcare.

Originally Posted by snapper

... it will end undemocraticly.

I quote a living classic,the Colonel:''every society is a democracy,either by ballots or by bullets''.
As for the rest,you know my pov.To Hades with all of this crap.

Originally Posted by Mihais

I quote a living classic,the Colonel:''every society is a democracy,either by ballots or by bullets''.
As for the rest,you know my pov.To Hades with all of this crap.

Nope, they can't go to Hades, we were there first

As usual:
The French call girl, the 11 orgies and Dominique Strauss-Kahn - Telegraph

You can bet that the head of last white rhinoceros is arround in one of his houses...