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    Polish President Lech Kaczynski plane crashes near Smolensk

    Lech Kaczyński President of Poland and twin brother of the former Prime Minister Jarosław Kaczyński was onboard a plane that did crash this saturday morning near Smolensk. Russian media report at least 87 dead, but there has been no information if the President is among the victims.

    BBC News - Polish President Lech Kaczynski 'in plane crash'

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    TV Reports here have just announced his death

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    Polish President Lech Kaczynski dies in plane crash in SW Russia

    MOSCOW, April 10 (RIA Novosti)
    A passenger plane carrying Polish President Lech Kaczynski crashed near the city of Smolensk, killing all 87 on board, Russia's Emergencies Ministry said on Saturday.

    Polish Foreign Ministry press secretary Petr Paszkowski confirmed that the Polish president was on board the Tu-154 aircraft. Kaczynski was flying with a delegation to take part in the Katyn memorial ceremonies.

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    My sincere condolences to the families.
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    Polish president feared dead in plane crash

    President Lech Kaczynski was travelling with his wife from Warsaw to Smolensk airport, 220 miles southwest of Moscow.

    Sergei Antufiev, the regional governor of the Smolensk, said that everyone on board had been killed.

    "It clipped the tops of the trees, crashed down and broke into pieces," Mr Antufiev, told Russia-24 television news network by telephone. "There were no survivors." Polish state news agency PAP also said there were no survivors.

    Conditions around the airport were described as foggy when the plane came down a mile from the airport. Russia's official news agency said that 87 people had been killed in the crash.

    A Polish government official said the head of the Polish army and the head of the presidential administration were also on board the plane, along with the president's wife and families of other senior officials.

    The plane was also carrying the governor of Poland's central bank, Slawomir Skrzypek.

    Mr Kaczynski, 60, has been president since December 2005. He is married with one daughter


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    Polish president feared dead in plane crash - Telegraph

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    From what i've seen posted on other forums.

    The people on board include.

    - President
    - First Lady
    - Army Chief of Staff
    - Deputy Prime Minister
    - Opposition Leader
    - Central Bank Governor
    - Deputy Foreign Minister?
    - Head of National Security Bureau

    Condolences to the Families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevoJH View Post
    From what i've seen posted on other forums.

    The people on board include.

    - President
    - First Lady
    - Army Chief of Staff
    - Deputy Prime Minister
    - Opposition Leader
    - Central Bank Governor
    - Deputy Foreign Minister?
    - Head of National Security Bureau

    Condolences to the Families.
    RIP

    Also that really sucks for the government of Poland.

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    RIP to all those on the plane and condolences to their families

    Is anyone else aside from me thinking this might have been intentional? As far as I know, the presidential airplane is always the best kept and the best guarded one in the whole fleet, so accidents should almost never happen. Not saying that they don't, but the first thing that jumped to my mind was how certain people would benefit from a leaderless Poland, not least Russia, which seems to be flexing it's muscles again. I'm sure the investigators are also looking into the same thing
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    Sad news. Poland will be in shock - so many impotant people gone in one accident. Terrible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigross86 View Post
    Is anyone else aside from me thinking this might have been intentional?
    I don't .
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    Pan Lech KACZYŃSKI Prezydent Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigross86 View Post
    RIP to all those on the plane and condolences to their families

    Is anyone else aside from me thinking this might have been intentional? As far as I know, the presidential airplane is always the best kept and the best guarded one in the whole fleet, so accidents should almost never happen. Not saying that they don't, but the first thing that jumped to my mind was how certain people would benefit from a leaderless Poland, not least Russia, which seems to be flexing it's muscles again. I'm sure the investigators are also looking into the same thing

    BR,

    Given the choice between conspiracy & fvckup & always prompt for fvckup until conclusively proven otherwise.

    I can guarantee you that there will already be 'proof' on the interent somewhere that this was the Russians, or the Americans, or the Mossad (just covering the usual suspects). In fact, I'll bet you there are (or will be) people theorizing that this is the CIA or the Mossad trying to make Russia look bad (you just know they will). It will rely on the usual method - isolate 'odd' or difficult to explain apsects of the crash, add the motive & the 'logic' behind it & then proclaim it fact.

    In truth this would be an extraordinarily risky thing for Russia to do for uncertain gain. Were it to even look like thy were doing it opinion in E.Europe would harden decisively against Russia, from suspicion to outright hostility in an instant. If anything it would make life a lot harder for Russia. Even Putin, thuggish as he is, would surely not take such a risk, especially under the circumstances - the first Polish delegation to go to Katyn commemorations. Also, if you look at the crash - on approach to the airport in poor conditions - it looks a lot more like pilot error than sabotage.

    Anyhow, I'll wait for crash reports. I'm assuming the Poles will send in a team to work with the Russians.


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    Plane that crashed...

    Vladimir Putin 'll head the commission that 'll investigate this tragedy.

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    RIP.
    Hard to think up worst moment, when this could happen.
    Our relations with Poland just started to improve by little after looooong (from 20-30 to 700 years, depends on yr PoV) deterioration.
    After some hours there will be tons of comments like "Putin did that, because.. (insert anything u want here) ". F....ng great.

    Waiting for crash reports....
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    RIP. This is a serious tragedy for Poland

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