Thread: Uganda to apply death penalty towards homosexuality

You would ever see a Christian values based nation with such laws. Why cannot other countries and religions be as tolerant as the US and out Judea Christian value system?

We would never kill someone for being a homosexual.

We would only lock them up under the sodomy laws, (prior to the 2003 SCOTUS decision that invalidated them). Most states had repealed those laws in the 70s and 80s, but these were still in effect in 2003

Michigan, the first offense was 15 years, 2d Life.

Idaho- 5yrs to life

NC and Ok it was 10 yrs

In all, 14 states still had antihomosexual laws on the books in 2003.

The every State in the US had those laws until the 70s when states started repealing them.(Ill repealed theirs in 1962).

We are not too far ahead Uganda when it comes to this issue.

Originally Posted by dr prescription

I agree. Sheep-like in my opinion.

There's more to it (the West/Islamic relationship) than that, but I haven't really been able to get my philosophical teeth into it. I probably won't today, either, but let's give it a shot. Bear with me.

We had a a marvelous dog named Jaysson. As have been all our dogs, he was a mutt. His mother, Spasm, was 65lb mix who looked like a collie/shepherd cross. Her father was an absolutely huge German shepherd named Frank who weighed in at ~135lbs. Biggest purebreed shepherd I've ever seen. Jaysson's father was a big (~90lb) Lab named Jay.

When Jaysson was in good shape he weighed ~110lb. Looked like a giant, rangy Lab. Hound of the Baskervilles material. He was a dignified gentleman with a good sense of humor who put up just fine with small yappy dogs in the neighborhood who tormented him, only occasionally pushing them away with a massive paw. He resented dogs larger than he was & occasionally I had to intervene to keep him intact when he'd attack a Saint Bernard or something, but he was otherwise a well-behaved animal.

Once, when we were at a party down in the weeds at a group-made pond in Shelby County one of the attendees brought an 80lb Lab named Henry. Henry resented Jaysson, evidently in much the same way that Jaysson himself resented bigger dogs. After awhile, Jaysson got tired of dodging snarling dominance attacks, picked Henry up by the middle of the back so that all 4 legs were off the ground & shook him. Henry behaved himself punctiliously thereafter. I wasn't mad at Jaysson. Henry's owner wasn't mad at Jaysson. The doggies just straightened out their social life.

OK. Canine parable mostly over. We in the West have been guilty of a sort of bizarre, potentially suicidal anti-cultural nobless oblige that we need to stop. Or we'll melt away.

Cultural relativism is all very well. It's good to understand your neighbors & put yourself in their places; see the world through their eyes. But it doesn't work so well if the other dog in the yard belligerently refuses to do the same thing.

I don't see the slightest indication that any Islamic state engages in it. The Imams KNOW what's right, & what's destined to come about. They keep the large majority of their populace in ignorance, poverty & hatred. There may well be such an entity as moderate Islam. I don't know. Locally? I'm not sure if we have people in the State Department, the intelligence community or the military trained to recognize it, or more important, to recognize departures from it if the intent to deceive is present. In essence, we require ourselves to behave in a way that we allow our foremost current adversaries to ignore.

This isn't smart. Pick'em up & shake'em.

Prof