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Do you have an amphibian vehicle?
Not sure if they are justified in saying this flooding is once in 1000 years.
This is where i live , Cumbria , the whole county has been devastated , and if it wasnt bad enough , G Clown turns up hoo hoo hullabaloo :(
Reuters
Prime Minister Gordon Brown visited flood-hit Cumbria in north west England Saturday to see the damage caused by record rainfall and pay tribute to a policeman who died when a bridge collapsed .
Heavy rain during the past few days has left hundreds of people sheltering in rescue centres, hotels and with family and friends.
Water levels were receding Saturday allowing emergency services to search properties to ensure residents were safe, and engineers to check for any structural damage to bridges.
But four severe flood warnings were still in place across the area and a further 30 mm (1.2 inches) of rain was forecast for later in the day.
"What you have done over the last few days is tackle one of the greatest rainfalls we've seen in our country," Brown told emergency services during a visit to Cumbria police headquarters.
He said the country was proud of their "superb" response.
He later visited a rescue centre and spoke to residents.
Elsewhere, large parts of Ireland's west, south and midlands remained submerged in flood water in the worst flooding the country has seen in decades, with 175 troops deployed in rescue efforts.
Flood defences in Cumbrian towns were overwhelmed by unprecedented downpours which officials said could be expected only once in 1,000 years.
The Environment Agency said 314 mm (12.4 inches) had fallen within 24 hours in one area, a record for England. The Meteorological Office said the amount of rain expected for all of November had fallen in one day.
TANKIE.
Are you and your home all right?
Do you have an amphibian vehicle?
Not sure if they are justified in saying this flooding is once in 1000 years.
Yes we are ok thanks mate , cant get out of Barrow for road flooding , no veh , 1000 years B/S , it happened a few years ago as well ,Carlisle was worst hit then Merlin , river Eden burst .:(Originally Posted by Merlin
TANKIE.
To avoid being blamed for not instituting flood disaster prevention measures, people in charge would try to say this is once in a very-long-while event and thus not worth taking measures.
Nail firmly hit , let the insurance companies bear the brunt .
TANKIE.
I sympathise. I live near Uckfield and it's flooded badly a couple of times in recent years. We didn't get any bridges washed away so we were only cut off whilst the flood waters receded, but I have friends who had their houses flooded. It was horrible.
As for insurance companies footing the bill, if they don't the taxpayer will. We pay either way!
But best wishes, hope you stay dry.
Thanks , yes we are dry , however others have not been as lucky .
Heavy rain could bring more flooding to parts of northern England still struggling to cope with the damage caused by last week's unprecedented storms, Environment Secretary Hilary Benn said on Monday.
In an emergency statement to parliament, Benn said people in Cumbria, which was lashed by the heaviest downpours on record, should be prepared for more flooding.
"Further heavy rain is forecast overnight and there may be some further flooding," he said.
Three people have been killed and a fourth is missing after the unprecedented downpours, he added.
Policeman Bill Barker died when a bridge collapsed in the market town of Workington and Environment Agency contractor Michael Streeter was killed in an accident while working on flood defences at Selsey Bill on the south coast.
Canoeist Chris Wheeler died after becoming trapped on the swollen River Dart in Devon, while a woman is missing feared dead after falling into the River Usk in Brecon, mid-Wales.
"Our thoughts are with all their families and colleagues," Benn added. "It is utterly devastating and the House will wish to express its sympathy to all those affected."
About 1,300 properties were flooded in Cumbria, more than 1,000 lost electricity and 12,000 lost their phone lines, he added. Six bridges have collapsed due to the force of the water.
MORE RAIN COMING
The Met Office said parts of Cumbria and the Scottish borders could see 50 mm to 74 mm of rain by Wednesday morning, with wind gusting at up to 65 mph. Up to 100 cm of rain could fall on the Cumbrian fells.
"There will be persistent heavy rainfall in Cumbria on Tuesday," said Paul Davies, chief hydrometeorologist for the Met Office and the Environment Agency. "We are not expecting the same volumes of rainfall as last week and do not expect there to be the same widespread property flooding.
"We are concerned about the ongoing risk to infrastructure, particularly bridges, and the possible risk to life in the area as the river flows increase."
Hundreds of people were allowed back to their shops and businesses for the first time earlier on Monday to count the cost of the damage caused by flooding in Cockermouth, one of the worst-affected Cumbrian towns.
After waiting for three days, the owners of 900 properties crossed a police cordon to see the devastation.
Shop windows were smashed, stock lay ruined on muddy floors and water marks on the walls showed how flood water from the River Cocker had reached shoulder-height.
Some shop-owners complained that it took too long for the authorities to allow them back to check the damage after the damage from Thursday night's flooding.
While the Christmas tree in the main street was still standing, some businesses said they did not expect to reopen in time for the festive season.
Last edited by tankie; 24 Nov 09, at 13:48.
TANKIE.
There does seem to be more floods at home these days. But the whole global warming arguement versus natural changes in climate leave me wondering.
The reason put for not putting up defences is that they are ugly and spoil the landscape and noone knows where the next flood will hit. I think Brown is been treated badly by our media as he is doing a good job unlike the tories who never announce any policies except about the recession which they said they would do nothing and let the market naturally recover. They are useless toffs and Brown is a sincere man as shown during the floods.
Ireland has been hit very bad as well - Blarney is hammered, our house is pretty bad and we've no drinking water, we have been given tons of sandbags and the emergency services are true heroes, they've been helping in the town non-stop for the past 40 hours or so.
AFP: Ireland battles severe flooding
DUBLIN — Ireland battled floods on Saturday described as a "once in 800 years event", with the government rushing to provide shelter and drinking water and soldiers sent to assist those affected.
Rivers burst their banks, coastal towns were threatened by sea flooding, 18,000 households were left without water in Cork, Ireland's second city -- and forecasters warned of more heavy rain to come.
"We have been told this is a once in 800 years event. We have had no fatalities and that is a blessing," Environment Minister John Gormley told RTE state radio as he toured some of the worst hit areas.
Prime Minister Brian Cowen chaired a meeting of the national emergency coordination committee, and said the main concern was to help people evacuated from their homes and to maintain water supplies.
"Clearly we are very concerned about maintaining the priority of helping those who have been displaced or have to be looked after in accommodation. Also making sure that people have access to clean drinking water," he said.
"There is also a situation where major installations have to be protected, hospitals for example."
Troops were drafted in to assist emergency services in the worst hit areas, particularly Cork in the south and towns in the south, midlands and west of the republic, as forecasters predicted more heavy rain to come.
In Cork where the River Lee burst its banks, RTE reported that 18,000 homes had their water cut off following extensive damage to the city's main pumping station, and said it was unlikely to be restored for at least a week.
Cork City manager Joe Gavin described the disruption as "unprecedented, grave and posing a potential health risk", it reported.
Fears of pollution in other areas have led to boil notices being issued for water supplies.
In Galway to the west, local authorities warned flood waters were still rising and urged motorists to avoid travelling, amid widespread road closures.
Thousands of hectares of farmland were submerged and the Irish Farmers Association warned of severe economic repercussions.
The Meteorological Office has issued a weather alert and warned of severe gales.
It said its stations at Sherkin Island, County Cork and Claremorris, County Mayo in the west have already had more rain than in any previous full November.
Meteorologist Gerry Fleming added: "The run of wet summers and wet winters we been having in the last two years are unprecedented."
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Hi ppl, im new.
My cousin lives in the worst affected little village in the country hitherto referred to as New Atlantisw (if you dont laugh you will cry)-Cockermouth.
She cant enter her house for a week, because the water is still halfway up her stairs.
She only moved back into the house 6 months ago after being flooded out in 2006 i think it was. She will never sell that house as its uninsurable now, being built next to a river which is the cause of much of the flooding. She has actually had an awful few weeks. When the flooding happened, she was back home with her family attendng her mothers funeral, so in a week she lost her house and her mother-and to top it off, she had to watch some idiot being interviewed for the local news, trying to tell us that this months rain in one night somehow wasnt the result of climate change.
Tell that to the homeless and bankrupted businesses.
And more rain is forecast
TANKIE.
Dear I forgot you were in the South. Hope you got insurance!
Tried to drive to Dungaravan on Friday, but had to turn back cause the road had turned into a river!
The annoying thing is, that the local authroties wouldnt update the flood defences, because they didnt want to damage the wildlife-apparently their concerns were for worms in the riverbed.....forget about the people in the houses.
The only worms in Cumbria are the country council and the local environment agency.
Yeah we've got insurance, no definitive picture on actual damage costs yet but they'll be substantial, that much is clear.
I haven't been able to go to work in the last few days either, I work in a school on the Northside of Cork, awful flooding there, UCC is closed for the week and I heard Shandon is lucky it's bells are on top!
At the same time the community spirit here is amazing - gards, civic helpers, army, county councillors, and civilians, the strike isn't in place here, what a community we live in.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
- John Stuart Mill.
what strike?
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