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    hindoo sets muzloom on fire and gets beheaded!

    Yae dono bitti chod hindoo/ mouzlum aik doosray key gaand main ungal karna naheen chhorrain gay!

    Abaay yaar sotay main gaand jala dee!




    Indian beheaded in S. Arabia



    RIYADH, Feb 5: An Indian citizen convicted of burning a compatriot to death was executed Saturday in southern Saudi Arabia, the Interior Ministry said.

    Gotham Krishna had been found guilty of setting Madrasa Iqbal ablaze while Iqbal was sleeping, due to an unspecified quarrel between the two, the ministry said in a statement.

    Krishna was beheaded in the southern region of Aseer, bringing the number of people beheaded in Saudi Arabia since Jan 1 to nine.

    In 2004, Saudi authorities executed 35 people, down from 52 people beheaded in 2003. -APP
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    Lull,

    You are great.

    You can fun through even the most horrifying news!

    I read this in our papers too.

    The Indian who killed the other Indian was beheaded with a sword in a public place as per the customs and laws of Saudi Arabia where I believe there is no appeal except I think paying up cash in lieu of life.

    As per Ibn 'Abbas : Remission (forgiveness) in this Verse (2:178), means to accept the Blood-money in an intentional murder. Ibn 'Abbas added: The Verse: 'Then the relatives should demand Blood-money in a reasonable manner.' (2.178) means that the demand should be reasonable and it is to be compensated with handsome gratitude. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 20)"

    This Indian should have used this Islamic law to ensure that he was not beheaded. Even so, notwithstanding Islamic laws, even if he paid the Blood Money, such dangerous elements should at least be put in life imprisonment.

    This law becomes an easy escape route for murderers, though in a way it at least compensates the family.

    Again, it is the moral question as to which is right.

    'Gotham' is indeed an odd name for an Indian, though Indian he is.
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    I'm no fan of beheadings though I must admit, the promptness of the delivery of justice probably helps deter a lot of crimes in the kingdom.
    Am out of town for a while and then have tons of work coming up at school. Will be back once that's all done.

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    Lull,

    But this too could have happened:

    It is permissible to slay the murderer the same way he slew his victim(s), or to punish the aggressor the same way he violated his victim:

    Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, "The prescribed Law of Allah is the equality in punishment (i.e. Al-Qisas)." (In cases of murders, etc.) (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)), Volume 6, Book 60, Number 26)"

    Narrated Anas bin Malik: "A Jew crushed the head of a girl between two stones. It was said to her. "Who has done this to you, such-and-such person, such-and-such person?" When the name of the Jew was mentioned, she nodded with her head, agreeing. So the Jew was brought and he confessed. The Prophet ordered that his head be crushed with the stones. (Hammam said, "with two stones.") (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 23)"

    Narrated Anas bin Malik: "The Prophet killed a Jew for killing a girl in order to take her orna. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 24)"

    Narrated Anas: "That his aunt, Ar-Rubai' broke an incisor tooth of a girl. My aunt's family requested the girl's relatives for forgiveness but they refused; then they proposed a compensation, but they refused. Then they went to Allah's Apostle and refused everything except Al-Qisas (i.e. equality in punishment). So Allah's Apostle passed the judgment of Al-Qisas (i.e. equality of punishment). Anas bin Al-Nadr said, "O Allah's Apostle! Will the incisor tooth of Ar-Rubai be broken? No, by Him Who sent you with the Truth, her incisor tooth will not be broken." Allah's Apostle said, "O Anas! The prescribed law of Allah is equality in punishment (i.e. Al-Qisas.)" Thereupon those people became satisfied and forgave her. Then Allah's Apostle said, "Among Allah's Worshippers there are some who, if they took Allah's Oath (for something), Allah fulfill their oaths." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)), Volume 6, Book 60, Number 27)"

    http://www.answering-christianity.co..._of_murder.htm

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    Execellent news, its always great when justice prevails.

    Its a shame they didn't burn the Indian like the other guy, that would have been more appropriate.

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    Aryan, it is sad that justice is NEVER seved in your country to minorities. You racist. Rather than bashing another country all the time, you should find out ways to improve YOUR country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan
    Execellent news, its always great when justice prevails.

    Its a shame they didn't burn the Indian like the other guy, that would have been more appropriate.
    Where are you from?
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    Amit,
    theres no use of telling him that . Theres a general pattern in pakistnan generated by pak govt and religious fanatics to evade the atttention of the people away from the local matters which has rooted in paksitani minds they are always lookinst at what india does wrong what an indian does wrong to get a chance to criticize /But what they loose in the whole process is the time they should have devoted to put on themselves. They spend more on military which in turn maade their copuntry real bad reduced the savings , increaesed foreign lending but the eperception is still there. They have lost bangladesh and now soon if they dont learn ( which they apparently wont as they didnt in 30 eyars ) they will end up loosing balauchistan. and so on.

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    Veni vidi vici, he's a Brit (or a Pakistani, he seems quite confused about what exactly he is) who has an abnormal hatred of Indians, especially Hindus, that like any good racist, he won't let evidence to the contrary or lack of evidence for his position get in the way of. He also feels Indians are also short, dark, vegetable and rice eaters while Pakistanis are tall, fair meat-eaters (Atkins diet!).

    Ajay, they've deviated from Jinnah's vision a ton, fixating on Kashmir and India. If only they had been like Singapore or Malaysia, they would have prospered. Instead, they became fixated on screwing over India. When you look at Pakistan, it could have done pretty damn well IMO as it was on the US's good side and had less problems with population than India. They blew it IMO.
    Am out of town for a while and then have tons of work coming up at school. Will be back once that's all done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    Lull,

    But this too could have happened:

    It is permissible to slay the murderer the same way he slew his victim(s), or to punish the aggressor the same way he violated his victim:

    Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, "The prescribed Law of Allah is the equality in punishment (i.e. Al-Qisas)." (In cases of murders, etc.) (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)), Volume 6, Book 60, Number 26)"

    Narrated Anas bin Malik: "A Jew crushed the head of a girl between two stones. It was said to her. "Who has done this to you, such-and-such person, such-and-such person?" When the name of the Jew was mentioned, she nodded with her head, agreeing. So the Jew was brought and he confessed. The Prophet ordered that his head be crushed with the stones. (Hammam said, "with two stones.") (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 23)"

    Narrated Anas bin Malik: "The Prophet killed a Jew for killing a girl in order to take her orna. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 24)"

    Narrated Anas: "That his aunt, Ar-Rubai' broke an incisor tooth of a girl. My aunt's family requested the girl's relatives for forgiveness but they refused; then they proposed a compensation, but they refused. Then they went to Allah's Apostle and refused everything except Al-Qisas (i.e. equality in punishment). So Allah's Apostle passed the judgment of Al-Qisas (i.e. equality of punishment). Anas bin Al-Nadr said, "O Allah's Apostle! Will the incisor tooth of Ar-Rubai be broken? No, by Him Who sent you with the Truth, her incisor tooth will not be broken." Allah's Apostle said, "O Anas! The prescribed law of Allah is equality in punishment (i.e. Al-Qisas.)" Thereupon those people became satisfied and forgave her. Then Allah's Apostle said, "Among Allah's Worshippers there are some who, if they took Allah's Oath (for something), Allah fulfill their oaths." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)), Volume 6, Book 60, Number 27)"

    http://www.answering-christianity.co..._of_murder.htm

    Yaar I am totally against capital punishment, and vehemently against killing a murderer! You have to be mentally sick to kill! And killing a mentally sick person INMO is adding insult to injury.

    And once again, I reject islam in all its manifestations. it is a backward tribal religion, which needs to be reformed like Christianity was reformed almost a half a millenia ago, and moderated to evolve with the changing times.

    Nothing in this universe is eternal Ray! not even the Universe itself. Also between me and you........the biggest god-damn liar to have ever lived was Jesus! and you know who the second biggest liar to have ever lived was........ ..............let me guess.........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    As per Ibn 'Abbas : Remission (forgiveness) in this Verse (2:178), means to accept the Blood-money in an intentional murder. Ibn 'Abbas added: The Verse: 'Then the relatives should demand Blood-money in a reasonable manner.' (2.178) means that the demand should be reasonable and it is to be compensated with handsome gratitude. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Blood Money (Ad-Diyat), Volume 9, Book 83, Number 20)"
    Islam permits bribery?....cool...I'll remember this.

    Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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    Veni Vidi Vici,

    Aryan is one of those refugees who emigrate to the West. Many do. Nothing wrong.

    I didn't want to get into this, but then of late he is acting a little off balance. I wouldn't know if the cause is some mental turbulence caused by extra spicy food or mere stasis of the lower anatomy.

    But he is a special type. He hates his roots. His roots are in Pakistan. Originally Hindu, converted to Islam as per the history.

    Is he a racist? If you look at the archives of WAB, you will find that he has gloated about the fact that he is 'whiter than the whites' and none can make out whether he is white or not (note: he didn't mention about whether he can be found out when he opens his mouth; obviously he would. A Bradford or Brick Lane accent is a sure giveaway! ).

    Now when a man is so very keen to hide his identity, especially in Britain, which comparably is most tolerant to the immigrants then what can you say to him? Why want to be what you are not. Inferiority complex bordering of paranoid dementia.

    Oh yes, he is anti Hindu. But what of it? He is running away from his roots. That is his forte. I quote from my post in another thread :Not even one percent of Indian Muslims came from outside India, say Arabia or Central Asia, but are converts from Hinduism and Buddhism, mostly under duress. But on conversion their mindset became chain reaction of the Arab imperialism. That is the reason why several thousand Indian Muslims quitting British India (a Dar-ul-harab or land of the enemy) had chosen to migrate (hijrat) to Dar-ul-Islam Afghanistan, out which only 20,000 were allowed to settle. A large number of Shias from Lucknow, including the descendants of the Nawab of Awadh, chose to migrate to Karbala (now Iraq). At the root of this is the denial of a pre-Islamic identity.

    Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.

    He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him
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    Islam cannot be blamed for the ills that is manifest in the actions of late around the world.

    What, as some very aptly said (was it Tarek?) , is that Nations paracticising Islam as their official religion, are not being respnsive to the civilisational and cultural dynamics.

    I thnk even a personage like Iqbal, the poet, was howled down as blasphemous, when he advocated bringing dynamism into Islam by responding to the contemporary social dictates.

    Alas, the Mullahs rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    Veni Vidi Vici,

    Aryan is one of those refugees who emigrate to the West. Many do. Nothing wrong.

    I didn't want to get into this, but then of late he is acting a little off balance. I wouldn't know if the cause is some mental turbulence caused by extra spicy food or mere stasis of the lower anatomy.

    But he is a special type. He hates his roots. His roots are in Pakistan. Originally Hindu, converted to Islam as per the history.

    Is he a racist? If you look at the archives of WAB, you will find that he has gloated about the fact that he is 'whiter than the whites' and none can make out whether he is white or not (note: he didn't mention about whether he can be found out when he opens his mouth; obviously he would. A Bradford or Brick Lane accent is a sure giveaway! ).

    Now when a man is so very keen to hide his identity, especially in Britain, which comparably is most tolerant to the immigrants then what can you say to him? Why want to be what you are not. Inferiority complex bordering of paranoid dementia.

    Oh yes, he is anti Hindu. But what of it? He is running away from his roots. That is his forte. I quote from my post in another thread :Not even one percent of Indian Muslims came from outside India, say Arabia or Central Asia, but are converts from Hinduism and Buddhism, mostly under duress. But on conversion their mindset became chain reaction of the Arab imperialism. That is the reason why several thousand Indian Muslims quitting British India (a Dar-ul-harab or land of the enemy) had chosen to migrate (hijrat) to Dar-ul-Islam Afghanistan, out which only 20,000 were allowed to settle. A large number of Shias from Lucknow, including the descendants of the Nawab of Awadh, chose to migrate to Karbala (now Iraq). At the root of this is the denial of a pre-Islamic identity.

    Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.

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    Thanks ray.. that pretty much sums up the basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
    Thanks ray.. that pretty much sums up the basics.
    dont blame the relegion i have soo many muslims around me ,i have no problem with him nor do thay have any with me. we mistake the loud speaking mullahs to be the voice of the silent muslims.That is not!!!They have liter ally hijacked the relegion.

    i dont why all the islam countries inspite of having money, oil, and good scholars do nothing to get these things right.i havent seen any criticizing terror attacks unless it happens in there own courtyard.i ahvent seen anyone trying to take pains to explain to the world that what is happening is not authorised or represnting the thinking of the majority of the muslims.
    THIS IS WHAT BAFFLES ME...

    about aryan... he needs to be ignored juts leave him alone...wanna know what his latest finding is India will dissolve in the coming years with ll states declarinf their nationhood..i have asked him for timetable abt when all these is going to happen but as usual NOT TO BE SEEN....
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