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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    You were when you saw your 1st naked girl.
    Oh yes...that was pretty embarrassing and after all that practice, magazines, movies I thought I was so ready...sigh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versus View Post
    I think that it is very unwise to make parallels with individual acts of violence with the entire nation. If one American is a serial killer does that means that all Americans are serial killers?
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Didn't happened
    thanks for not making me say it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elbmek View Post
    What I saw on tv contradicts that. They interviewed the survivor on tv. What "didn't happen" was any investigation from either the Serbian authorities or NATO. It did happen but not followed up. As for tarring the Serbian nation with the same brush - well, the only other nation I can compare them to is Nazi Germany.



    Officer; I find that rather a strange statement from you. I care, and I am sure all those who had attrocities committed against their familes, wives, children, brothers, sisters would also care.
    There is your problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad95 View Post
    thanks for not making me say it.
    You know as well as I do that I am not on your side but I will be damned if I let the other guilty parties get away with their crap. There were innocent Serbs as well as innocent Croats and Albanians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosova Girl View Post
    Dear Readers

    After reading your opinions for Independence of Kosova I would like to inform you a bit about the truth what happened from year 1912 when the serbian forces came in Kosovo.
    The first hidden but very much accurate fact is the last century history filled with an eye to obliterate our history (closing schools, changing our identity in front of the world, separating the families, in other words making it too difficult and painfull to live...)
    A brief introduction that is about to continue...


    Mod Edit: http://www.kosova.com/arkivi1997/foto1.JPG

    Young lady, it is usual practice to just provide the link to the image and warn people about it. Most of us don't care about what happened in the past. We don't want the killings to start again. You're not helping in that regard.
    Dear Kosova Girl...kosova.com is an albanian site. The picture provided is just of a dead person. Where is your proof that he is not Serbian ? Nice try, but sorry, no go here young lady.

    If you want to post visual evidence, then here it is:

    Albanians destroying Serbian church in Kosovo:
    YouTube - Albanians destroying Serbian church in Kosovo

    Albanian Jihad on Kosovo:
    YouTube - Albanian Jihad - Ethnic Cleansing/ Genocide Of Kosovo Serbs

    And something for our freinds from UK:
    YouTube - Kosovo Albanians sell Semtext used to bomb London (Part 1)

    I can keep going all day Kosova Girl. And if you are so against killing, then why dont you stop bombing Kosovska Mitrovica where the Serbs live ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    You know as well as I do that I am not on your side but I will be damned if I let the other guilty parties get away with their crap. There were innocent Serbs as well as innocent Croats and Albanians.
    Good. If you guys didnt take sides at the very start balkans would have been better of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad95 View Post
    Good. If you guys didnt take sides at the very start balkans would have been better of now.
    UNPROFOR did not take sides. I remind you that Medak was fought against the Croats ... but our political masters did take sides. I told you before, UNPROFOR failed ... and I have no excuse for that ... but that does not mean the Serbs have excuses for Srebrenicia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    UNPROFOR did not take sides. I remind you that Medak was fought against the Croats ... but our political masters did take sides. I told you before, UNPROFOR failed ... and I have no excuse for that ... but that does not mean the Serbs have excuses for Srebrenicia.
    I wasnt asking for an excuse. Leaders did take sides, thats for sure. Srebrenica...lets leave that out of this topic, but just as a note, i agree, that was unacceptable. But we can also start naming Bosnian and Croatian deeds, so i suggest we leave it out of this

    Going back on topic, what are your thoughts, will Kosovo be a precedent for RS ? Personally i don't see the RS breaking away from Bosnia any time soon. And if/when the time comes, i don't see it being peaceful either. Just like the tensions are rapidly rising in Kosovo at the moment, lets see how that situation gets handled by KFOR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbmek View Post
    There was an item on tv recently, three small Albanian boys were playing on their side of the border, a bridge connected Serbia and Albania and the boys crossed it. A serbian tending a field started swearing and shouting at them. The boys, afraid, turned back. 2 more Serbs appeared, with dogs, which they released to chase the children. The bridge was cut off by these two so the children had to run down the river bank and into the freezing water, swollen by snow melt. Two of the children, brothers, dorwned trying to help each other and their bodies were lost downstream. The third managed to reach the other side but had to hide in the water, hidden under some bushes, because the 2 Serbs crossed the bridge and were searching the undergrowth for them. He managed to stay alive till they left and was found collapsed on the bank..........

    Lovely people the Serbs.
    Horrors exist in all communties of the world.


    Jallianwallah Bagh was worse!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Horrors exist in all communties of the world.


    Jallianwallah Bagh was worse!
    Probably going off topic, but what was that about? I agree, it is all over the world in one form or another - its the nature of the beast, and the beast is man.

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    Jallianwala Bagh massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    lots more detailed links are there just google

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    SRINAGAR, India (AFP) — Separatists in Indian Kashmir said Saturday that Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence has bolstered their resolve to achieve the same status for the disputed Himalayan territory.

    Kosovo last Sunday declared independence from Serbia, which vowed never to recognise the move.

    Kosovo's independence declaration has "strengthened our resolve to achieve freedom for Kashmir," leading Kashmiri separatist Shabir Shah told AFP.

    Several countries including the United States and Britain have recognised Kosovo as a new state, but India said it was studying the legal ramifications.

    India is wary of recognising Kosovo as an independent state because of its potential implications for Kashmir, racked by a nearly two-decade revolt against New Delhi's rule that has left more than 43,000 people dead.

    Nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan, which have fought two wars for control of the Muslim-majority region, each hold part of the territory but claim it in full.

    "Kosovo's independence is an indicator that struggles based on truth and justice never fail," Shah said, adding the day is not "far when Kashmiris will be free."

    Shah, 54, who heads the pro-independence Democratic Freedom Party, is dubbed the "Nelson Mandela" of Kashmir after spending more than 20 years in Indian jails.

    "The world community, the European Union in particular, should play a Kosovo-like role in getting the dispute resolved" in Kashmir, added Yasin Malik, chairman of pro-Independence Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front.

    Both Malik and Shah want India and Pakistan to withdraw from Kashmir to pave the way for its independence.

    So far, 23 of the 27 European Union member states back Kosovo's independence, either formally recognising it or declaring their intention to do so.

    Kosovo has been administered by the United Nations since 1999 after NATO bombed Belgrade to end a Serbian crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatists, but it remained technically part of Serbia.
    Thank You for the can of worms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    In Serbia today - crypto-Nazi nationalist leaders continue to rant about Greater Serbia, Slav racial purity, an Orthodox crusade against Islam, and medieval Kosovo - Serbia's Sudetenland.

    Some may be unaware that Kosovo is sitting on one of Europe’s most lucrative mineral deposits. The potential wealth of northern Kosovo’s Trepça Complex coveted by Serbia is vast! It alone could solve either nation’s desperate economic problems.

    The debate is no longer about democratic decentralization; this is really about Serbian Lebensraum, as international interests divvy up the spoils of war.

    Russia fears this new American initiated precedent of rendering the UN irrelevant!

    If the US and its NATO allies can stymie the creation of a "Greater Serbia" built on genocide's charnel remains, Russian ambitions in former Soviet Union territories can be similarly thwarted. China is similarly worried - think Taiwan or Tibet.

    Remarkable as it may seem to some chetniks present - USA is acting with honour unadulterated by financial self-interest or ulterior motive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    UNPROFOR did not take sides. I remind you that Medak was fought against the Croats ... but our political masters did take sides. I told you before, UNPROFOR failed ... and I have no excuse for that ... but that does not mean the Serbs have excuses for Srebrenicia.
    Colonel,

    The military rarely takes sides.

    It is always the political masters who do and they mess whatever the military might try to do, to stabilise the situation!

    The military is always subordinate to the civil govt in a democracy!


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

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    Elbmek,

    No offence was intended.

    I just wanted to highlight that stray incidents of gruesome violence does not indicate the overall political picture of events that pressured such violence and counter violence.

    As the Colonel has indicated that while the UNPROFOR had all good intentions, it was the politicians who messed up the issues.

    International political jockeying is the bane to international sanity and logic. The people are merely their tools and their lives are of no value.

    The break up of Yugoslavia will have a telling effect on Europe of the future.

    I feel it is a case of cutting the nose to spite the face!


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

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