British National Party to save Britain?

**knockers** · 24 Mar 07,, 16:52

Originally Posted by Mick in England

Knockers quote -I wouldnt vote BNP even if i had completely lost all my marbels!!!
They are offensive to everthing thats British.
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But just look around at the way Tory/Labour/Libdems have run Britain into the ground over the years, don't you find that offensive?
The BNP could hardly do any worse, ha ha ha..

The BNP are just replusive,i'm very patrotic but the BNP don't represent what being British is to me.

Anyone who has any proud in being British shouldn't vote for them.

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 16:56

Pdf27 quote -I'm currently in my mid-20s. In the last six months I have one patent application to my name, and have saved my company something of the order of £1 Millon/year for the next decade. It should be noted here that this is far from unusual for someone in my professional position, and that 90% of what my company produces is exported.
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In that case the BNP would treat you as a valued British citizen and support you to the hilt in everything you do..

Likewise, hard-studying youngsters and young professionals would be largely exempted from national service etc.
For example when I found myself in court on a vigilante rap 5 years ago for taking on a black drug gang single-handed, a BNP guy attended most of my court appearances to lend moral support in the face of the cowardly corrupt police who brought the prosecution..
(In short, I tipped off Leicester police for many months about the blatant drug dealing I witnessed at a nearby house but they did nothing. Then the dealers (who were black) complained to the police that I was "racially harassing them" by watching them with my binoculars, so the police swung smoothly into action and I was sentenced to 3 months jail)
As they say, you couldn't make it up, nobody'd believe it..
But its true..

**T_igger_cs_30** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:00

Originally Posted by Mick in England

Pdf27 quote -I'm currently in my mid-20s. In the last six months I have one patent application to my name, and have saved my company something of the order of £1 Millon/year for the next decade. It should be noted here that this is far from unusual for someone in my professional position, and that 90% of what my company produces is exported.
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In that case the BNP would treat you as a valued British citizen and support you to the hilt in everything you do..

Likewise, hard-studying youngsters and young professionals would be largely exempted from national service etc.
For example when I found myself in court on a vigilante rap 5 years ago for taking on a black drug gang single-handed, a BNP guy attended most of my court appearances to lend moral support in the face of the cowardly corrupt police who brought the prosecution..
(In short, I tipped off Leicester police for many months about the blatant drug dealing I witnessed at a nearby house but they did nothing. Then the dealers (who were black) complained to the police that I was "racially harassing them" by watching them with my binoculars, so the police swung smoothly into action and I was sentenced to 3 months jail)
As they say, you couldn't make it up, nobody'd believe it..
But its true..

So what your saying is Mick the under privilaged kids, who had a rocky start in life.........dont count?................use them as cannon fodder because thats all they are worth .................

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:00

Knockers quote -Anyone who has any proud in being British shouldn't vote for them (the BNP)
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But we all know the Tories, Labour and Libdems couldn't run a hoopla stall let alone a country, so isn't voting for them harmful to Britain?
Who but a traitor (no offence) would vote for such incompetent Britain-wrecking buffoons?

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:08

Tigger quote - So what your saying is Mick the under privilaged kids, who had a rocky start in life.........dont count?................use them as cannon fodder because thats all they are worth?
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If kid 'A' comes from an underprivileged home and is hardworking and upright (as many of them are), the BNP will take him under their wing and nurture and encourage him all the way.
But if kid 'B' comes from an underprivileged home and goes round terrorising the area, he'd better mend his ways fast in a BNP-run Britain..

**Officer of Engineers** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:12

Conscripting kids is ludicrous and degrades a professional military. It takes a minimum of 18 months to get a recruit to a standard that you can ship him out for combat and that's with people who WANTS to be there.

If they don't want to be there, there is no way you can get people ready to the current standards in less than 2 years. A waste of time, money, and effort for absolutely nothing.

**T_igger_cs_30** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:15

Originally Posted by Mick in England

Tigger quote - So what your saying is Mick the under privilaged kids, who had a rocky start in life.........dont count?................use them as cannon fodder because thats all they are worth?
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If kid 'A' comes from an underprivileged home and is hardworking and upright (as many of them are), the BNP will take him under their wing and nurture and encourage him all the way.
But if kid 'B' comes from an underprivileged home and goes round terrorising the area, he'd better mend his ways fast in a BNP-run Britain..

absolutely ..........govern by fear .........where have we seen that before ?

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:18

A popular Brit TV show called "Bad Lads Army" has run to several series now, in which a group of Brit 'bad boy' volunteers are given tough military training, at the end of which a proportion of them are surprised to find they enjoyed it and go on to join the real army.
There's a moral there somewhere.. ;)

"The bad boys selected this time around are the toughest, lippiest, baddest bunch yet. With thieves, vandals, fraudsters and ASBOs in their midst, the 18 to 24 year-olds lined up for the show have notched up over 2,000 days in prison, 2,500 hours of community service and over £30,000 in fines"
ITV - Bad Lads Army - Bad Lads Army

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:21

Tigger quote - absolutely ..........govern by fear .........where have we seen that before ?
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Fine upstanding citizens need have no fear of the BNP.. ;)

**T_igger_cs_30** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:30

Originally Posted by Mick in England

Tigger quote - absolutely ..........govern by fear .........where have we seen that before ?
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Fine upstanding citizens need have no fear of the BNP..

mmmmmmmm sure

**ExNavyAmerican** · 24 Mar 07,, 17:33

I like the nationalist elements, but it sounds like a glorified fascist party to me.

**pdf27** · 24 Mar 07,, 18:21

Originally Posted by Mick in England

In that case the BNP would treat you as a valued British citizen and support you to the hilt in everything you do..

Likewise, hard-studying youngsters and young professionals would be largely exempted from national service etc.

No, I wouldn't be. I quote from their manifesto again:

7. The compulsory National Service system discussed elsewhere in this Manifesto would begin at the age of 18 with a period of basic training in the army. This would include full training with the citizens' assault rifle. Conscientious objectors who refuse to undertake military service would be allocated other constructive work for the community, but would not receive the citizen's right to be armed, or the right to vote.

8. Individuals would be free to refuse to undertake any form of National Service, but such a refusal to serve the community for the common good would result in their not being entitled to free places at university, on training courses or self-employment schemes. Whereas some other politicians mouth platitudes about there being “no rights without responsibilities”, we mean it.

It is VERY clear that unless you do your time as a conscript - i.e. a slave - you are not a citizen and are excluded from society. No exceptions. This means that unless I wasted two years and harmed the British economy by doing so, I would not be entitled to the following:
1) Healthcare other than what I could pay for privately.
2) To attend university - the "Education" section of the manifesto makes it clear that only "citizens who have completed a period of national service" would be eleigible to go to university.
3) I would not be entitled to vote.
4) In what would be an armed society, I would not be entitled to own a firearm.
In other words, your entire claim that the BNP would "support me to the hilt" is only true in so far as the hilt is attached to a dagger in my back. Your claim that I would be "largely exempted from National Service" is likewise utter tripe.

Originally Posted by Mick in England

For example when I found myself in court on a vigilante rap 5 years ago for taking on a black drug gang single-handed, a BNP guy attended most of my court appearances to lend moral support in the face of the cowardly corrupt police who brought the prosecution..
(In short, I tipped off Leicester police for many months about the blatant drug dealing I witnessed at a nearby house but they did nothing. Then the dealers (who were black) complained to the police that I was "racially harassing them" by watching them with my binoculars, so the police swung smoothly into action and I was sentenced to 3 months jail)
As they say, you couldn't make it up, nobody'd believe it..
But its true..

You're quite right, I don't believe it. Having heard all of the available evidence, a jury of your peers (I assume) decided that your claims that they were a "black drug gang" were rubbish, and instead decided that you were racially harrassing them. Given your performance in the thread so far, and the fact that you relied on the BNP to turn up and support you in court, I strongly suspect they were correct to do so.

**dave lukins** · 24 Mar 07,, 19:30

Originally Posted by ExNavyAmerican

I like the nationalist elements, but it sounds like a glorified fascist party to me.

ENA you are not alone in your assumption

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 19:43

Pdf27 quote - I quote from their manifesto again...
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Which particular manifesto is it anyway? Are you sure you aren't being hoaxed, or maybe you're the hoaxer.. ;)

**~~Mick in England~~** · 24 Mar 07,, 19:54

Pdf27 quote - You're quite right, I don't believe it. Having heard all of the available evidence, a jury of your peers (I assume) decided that your claims that they were a "black drug gang" were rubbish, and instead decided that you were racially harrassing them.
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Ha ha ha, now you're saying the British justice system is infallible..)
Ever hear of Timothy Evans?
Logic it out mate - my case was in 2001/2 and there had just been race riots in northern english cities, so no way were the gutless Leicester police going to nick a black drug gang and risk triggering a riot there!
After my arrest one of the cops admitted "we know whats going on at the drug house", yet as I say, they refused to act on my year-long series of tipoffs, even when I told them how kids from the school across the road used to drift over to hang around the house in their lunch hour..
Needless to say, I've plastered the full story all over the net to embarrass the useless police..