Quote Originally Posted by Zhang Fei View Post
Chinese triumphalism is the result of years of strong economic growth, and relative ignorance about the outside world. In this respect, Chinese are probably no different from the average Indian or American or the average citizen of an East Asian Tiger during the boom years. For instance, the average Chinese thinks that per capita income wise, China is in the upper half of the East Asian countries, when it is in fact in the lower half. They also think that China isn't really separated from the developed economies by all that much - a notion deliberately encouraged by the government via the successful conclusion of China's first manned spaceflight, and its Soviet-style sports programs and medal tallies.

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Quote Originally Posted by Zeng_xinren View Post
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It seems that people rank China very high on this forum. I really appreciate it as a Chinese. But China's view on its positon in the world is not that high. I made a post about China's official view on the world power ranking in another thread. Here, I make a QUOTE of it.

Quote Originally Posted by Zeng_xinren View Post
It seems that this thread started to discuss China issues and many of you are really experts on it. I would like to add some points as a Chinese.

How China look at its position in the world:

Chinese social science academy publishes some Chinese development indices every year. An important index is the rank of the comprehensive national capability among the major countries around the world. This index can be looked as an international power ranking from China抯 view.

Economy, science and technology, military, diplomatic ability, government governing ability, human resource and nature resource are the major factors considered in ranking the countries for the comprehensive national capability. It ranks China to be No.6. The top 10 are: USA, UK, Russia, France, Germany, China, Japan, Canada, S. Korea and India.

Sorry, Indians may feel that it ranked India too low. In fact, it ranks USA far ahead of rest of the countries except on nature resource behind Russia and Canada and government governing ability behind Canada. This report gives Canada nearly perfect score (96.9/100) on government governing ability. No. 2 to No. 10 countries are not far apart with each other. They are essentially in the same league.

社科院黄皮书:中国综合国力排名第6 日本第7 评

Another important indices are China抯 First and Second modernization indices. The First modernization index represents the degree of industrialization, which takes the industrialized countries in around 1960 as the standard to be 100 and a statistic model to calculate the index.

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The report shows that there is not even one city in mainland China has reached 100 yet. Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau have reached 100 and finished their First modernization. The report predicts that if China can keep its growth rate for another 8 years, China may reach 100 and finish its First modernization at around 2015, which reaches the industrialization degree of developed countries in 1960. In 2003, China ranked 57 among 109 countries in the First modernization index.

The Second modernization index represents the degree of information and knowledge based economy. In 2003, China ranked 59 among 109 countries in the Second modernization index.

In 2003 China ranked 60 among 109 countries for the comprehensive social development index.

We have another report that shows:

In 2001, China lagged from the most advanced 5 countries (USA, UK, France, Germany and Sweden) for over 80 years on social development based on Urbanization, average expected life span and adult literate rate.

In 2001, China lagged from the most advanced 7 countries (USA and other 6 countries) for over 100 years on economic development based on GDP per capital, agriculture working force percentage and other factors.

The conclusion is that China is still an under-developed country and it will take centuries not decades for China to catch up.

中国现代化报告:中国仍属“社会欠发达”国家


Sorry, I can not find English information for my comments and have to attach Chinese web-links for those who can read Chinese. I translated some information that I think to be the key information here from the above web-links.