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    Is China financing the United Liberation Front of Asom?

    The subject is topical, as there's been another flare-up of sectarian violence in Assam, and the ULFA's bases are said to be in Arunachal Pradesh/South Tibet. What's your take?
    Hundreds of soldiers yesterday patrolled parts of violence-torn Assam in the wake of an indefinite curfew and shoot-on-sight orders issued after a wave of militant killings left 48 Hindi-speaking people dead.

    There were no overnight reports of violence and the situation was gradually limping back to normal, said a police spokesperson.

    The outlawed United Liberation Front of Asom (Ulfa) went on a rampage for two straight days beginning on Friday killing 48 people and wounding 30 in separate raids in the three eastern districts of Tinsukia, Dibrugarh, and Dhemaji, targeting Hindi-speaking migrant workers.

    “Security forces have fanned out across the region with the army, police, and paramilitary troopers engaged in a systematic anti-insurgency offensive,” Tinsukia district magistrate Absar Hazarika told IANS.

    Hundreds of soldiers and policemen raided insurgent hideouts in jungles of Assam yesterday.

    “We are going all out against the Ulfa,” Tarun Gogoi, Assam’s chief minister, told Reuters.

    “Massive combing operations have started and additional troops are being rushed to the affected areas.”

    Security officials said the attackers had fled to the mountains of neighbouring Arunachal Pradesh state where they are said to have training camps.

    Troops were in pursuit, a military commander said on condition of anonymity.

    Security was tightened in areas adjoining the violence-hit eastern districts of Tinsukia, Dibrugarh, Golaghat and Sivasagar to prevent a spill-over of violence.

    Authorities in eastern Assam have formed several peace committees involving leaders of all communities to instil confidence among the Hindi-speaking minorities, many of whom are reported to be fleeing their homes in panic.
    “These peace committees are working as vigilantes, helping the affected people come to terms with reality and trying to heal the wounds," a police official said.

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    Where on earth are you getting "South Tibet" from???
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    He is probably referring Arunachal Pradesh as South Tibet.
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    And the Chinese are in North Arunachal?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    And the Chinese are in North Arunachal?
    As per their saying, all Arunachalese are their brothers & sisters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic View Post
    Where on earth are you getting "South Tibet" from???
    That's the Chinese name for Arunachal Pradesh. The name itself tells you why the Chinese are interested in the territory. They see it the part of Tibet wrested away by the British Raj. Incidentally, the Chinese name for Tibet isn't Tibet - it's Xizang. The traditional Chinese name for Tibet, prior to Chinese claims on its territory, was Tufan. (Similarly, the Chinese name for its Uighur province isn't East Turkistan - it's Xinjiang).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    And the Chinese are in North Arunachal?
    Actually, the Chinese are in North Tibet. If Tibetans had anything to say about it, neither North nor South Tibet would be in foreign hands. But that's the reality of geopolitics - the strong do what they will, and the weak suffer what they must. Both North and South Tibet are being swamped by foreign settlers. What the Chinese are doing to North Tibet is well-known. What the Indians are doing to South Tibet is less publicized, but probably no less disagreeable to the Tibetan people. It's like the partition of Poland into Nazi and Soviet zones after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - the Poles were hard-pressed to decide whom they hated more - the Nazis or the Soviets. Here's a little something from Wikipedia on Indian settlers:
    65% of the Arunachalis belong to 20 major-collective tribes and 82 tribes, who had a heritage of a diverse and rich culture, language and beliefs. Most of them are either of Tibetan or of Thai-Burmese origin. Another 35% of the population are immigrants, including 30,000 Bangladeshi, Bodo Hajong and Chakma expartriates, and immigrants from other parts of India, notably Assam and Nagaland. The most notable tribes include the Adi, Nishi, Monpa and Apatani.
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    That huge chunk in Chinese hands is North Tibet and a tiny little state in India becomes South Tibet??? Wtf??? and I'm also wondering that if Arunachal is Tibet, then why doesn't the Dalai Lama choose to stay there instead of Dharamshala; since he is already staying in India anyways....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhang Fei View Post
    The subject is topical, as there's been another flare-up of sectarian violence in, and the ULFA's bases are said to be in Arunachal Pradesh/South Tibet. What's your take?
    That is hogwash, China knows it very well, that if its plays with the ULFA we have a ready made counter in the form of the Tibetan issue. It is this very reason that made the Chinese pull away support from the Naga NCN (Nationalist Council of Nagaland) in the late 60s/early 70s.

    The ULFA is supported by the ISI and Bangladeshi DGFI (Directorate General of Forces Intelligence) and the Bangla based Jamat-ul-Muhajideen. The political support for is dates back to the time from Zia ul Rehman and now his wife Begum Khaleda Zia. The BNP supports an anti-India stance, and has been supporting north-eastern insurgent groups, especially the ULFA.

    The BNP, Bangla Forces and its people are intelligent enough to know that India's patience should not be taken as a sign of weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhang Fei View Post
    Both North and South Tibet are being swamped by foreign settlers. What the Chinese are doing to North Tibet is well-known. What the Indians are doing to South Tibet is less publicized, but probably no less disagreeable to the Tibetan people.
    That is a very flawed understanding of equating Chinese atrocities with assumed Indian "atrocities" in Arunachal. There is no parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhang Fei View Post
    Actually, the Chinese are in North Tibet. If Tibetans had anything to say about it, neither North nor South Tibet would be in foreign hands. But that's the reality of geopolitics - the strong do what they will, and the weak suffer what they must. Both North and South Tibet are being swamped by foreign settlers. What the Chinese are doing to North Tibet is well-known. What the Indians are doing to South Tibet is less publicized, but probably no less disagreeable to the Tibetan people. It's like the partition of Poland into Nazi and Soviet zones after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - the Poles were hard-pressed to decide whom they hated more - the Nazis or the Soviets. Here's a little something from Wikipedia on Indian settlers:
    You are talking nonsense. Non Arunachali's cant waltz into Arunachal and buy land, so what talk of permanent settlement. That restriction applies to all North eastern states, and was a considered decision by the GOI to avoid local resentment. Legal settlement from other parts of India's has way too many restrictions.

    Nor has India ever practised forced resettlement or created forced enclaves in other states.

    The only migration that occurs is temporary- "follow the money", as it were, where migrants from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh act as labourers all over India, and that too low paying jobs. These folks live beside the roads, in small tents/ hovels as they work on the roads, infrastructure, and next year they would be in Kashmir, the year after that back in Bihar- its a hard life, but they cant settle in one place, their lifestyle and limited economic means dont permit it.

    The other settlers you mention- "Assam" and Nagas, you do realize that the Ahom had annexed Arunachal, and this migration has taken place over hundreds of years, and that culturally, the whole North east has significant commonalities.

    As regards Bangla immigrants- they are mostly Muslim, and dont fit in with the Buddhist-Hindu culture in most NE states, but again that is not an Indian policy to force them on the NE states. Bangla immigrants are illegal, and are as much an issue in Delhi as in Bengal and as in the North east.
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    if it is true chinese are financing ULFA to do anti indian atrocities ,its high time india despached a nuclear experts group to japan and specifically to taiwan to inform these countries that india is openly willing to provide them with nuclear tech ( though both these countries have cpacbilites to go nuclear ) .....that will
    serve as the final ultimatum to chinese

    dont brag abt what uncle sam will think 0r act --its is indians dying ,so the best defence is to go offensive .....

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    I dont think that the Chinese would do support ULFA. They would rather do it through pakistan and Bangladesh states. After the major offensive in Bhutan against the ULFA happened, there was a military agreement between bangladesh and China
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    If that is so then its just a continuation of the concept of Shi.

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