Retrial begins of BNP leaders accused of stirring racial hatred

**glyn** · 8th December 2006 18:05

Originally Posted by dabong1

TWO Pendle men have appeared before Pennine magistrates accused of having "a master plan" after what is believed to be a record haul of chemicals used in making home-made bombs was found in Colne.
The 22 chemical components recovered by police are believed to be the largest haul ever found at a house in this country.
Cottage is an ex-BNP member who stood as a candidate in the Pendle Council elections in May.
She said a search of Jackson's home had uncovered rocket launchers, chemicals, BNP literature and a nuclear biological suit.
http://www.pendletoday.co.uk/ViewArt...icleID=1806619

I would think after the above article the BNP are a much more serious threat and if we can arrest people for intent to do terrorisim then nick griffin must be in the scale as mr hook hamza.

I have a Nuclear Chemical Biological suit, a souvenir of my service days, and jolly useful when I'm painting and decorating this old house of mine! If I recall the 'rocket launchers' were the disposable bits that are discarded after a missile has been fired. They were harmless. I expect a lot of kids have them. The case has quietened down and I have heard nothing about it since, so I don't think it is as serious as some people thought. Certainly they (the BNP) are not in the same league as the poisonous clerics who were recruiting martyrs and preaching hate.

**pdf27** · 8th December 2006 18:42

If anyone's interested, the BNP just came third in a local council by-election where I am, with nearly 13% of the vote. Kinda scary really - it looks so harmless and middle-class around here.

**glyn** · 8th December 2006 19:47

Originally Posted by pdf27

If anyone's interested, the BNP just came third in a local council by-election where I am, with nearly 13% of the vote. Kinda scary really - it looks so harmless and middle-class around here.

I fully expect the BNP to gain an increasing share of the vote for some time to come. I would imagine that most of those who voted for them are not their supporters at all, but are so fed up with the 3 useless main parties that they are taking the opportunity to register a protest vote. If the main parties come to their senses and get back to WORKING for the good and benefit of the public, the BNP vote will melt away.

**Trooth** · 8th December 2006 23:19

Originally Posted by pdf27

If anyone's interested, the BNP just came third in a local council by-election where I am, with nearly 13% of the vote. Kinda scary really - it looks so harmless and middle-class around here.

The BNP are right when they say the case will be a springboard for them. Perversely, them winning the case gives them legitimacy.

The problem is that the BNP will focus on their core issue. But in most of the UK race is not an issue that requires primacy over all others. Hence of the BNP win council seats they prove to be ineffectual councillors.

**brokensickle** · 19th December 2006 09:13

Originally Posted by glyn

I have a Nuclear Chemical Biological suit, a souvenir of my service days, and jolly useful when I'm painting and decorating this old house of mine! If I recall the 'rocket launchers' were the disposable bits that are discarded after a missile has been fired. They were harmless. I expect a lot of kids have them. The case has quietened down and I have heard nothing about it since, so I don't think it is as serious as some people thought. Certainly they (the BNP) are not in the same league as the poisonous clerics who were recruiting martyrs and preaching hate.

I don't claim to know much about the BNP. When government is not doing it's job flushing out the enemies of their country generally the concerned populace will have to rise to the occasion. It seems the popularity of the BNP might be in part an indication of the populace voting for action.
How could you trust bureaucrats that can't see the looming threat that Islam poses?
I must add though that the proper course would be for the current administration to act with the concerned population together to eradicate the enemy and gain back their approval, instead of waiting for the people to splinter of into subgroups.

UK Stands for UNITED Kingdom?

Ivan

**glyn** · 19th December 2006 11:07

[QUOTE=brokensickle;313275]

UK Stands for UNITED Kingdom?

Not really, dis-Uniting Kingdom might be more appropriate. Like some have renamed the USA as the United States of Paranoia. But remember your Shakespeare, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".

**Ray** · 20th December 2006 03:11

Originally Posted by Trooth

Closed doors have nothing to do with the principle of incitement to racial hatred. How do you define private? How do you define closed doors?

Would an indoor arena of 100,000 be a closed meeting?

Mind you i disagree with censoring these people and i don't see that really they had a case to answer here. I would prefer them to be out in the open. If the court case did anything it gave more publicity to their words and their words expose them for what they are more then muting their voices will do. Let them spew forth their hate.

Should the worldwide arena of millions of Moslems baying for Kaffir blood not be taken as non private and an equal treatment as is being done for the BNP nt be meted to them too?

**SuperTrooper** · 7th January 2007 22:07

What about all the racial hatred these muslim protestor's are stiring,leave the BNP alone and support them.

**Trooth** · 8th January 2007 02:15

Originally Posted by Ray

Should the worldwide arena of millions of Moslems baying for Kaffir blood not be taken as non private and an equal treatment as is being done for the BNP nt be meted to them too?

If other countries have anti-incitement laws they should be applied. However in this case the BNP were aquitted, i am assuming you don't believe the Muslims baying for blood should be?

**Trooth** · 8th January 2007 02:16

Originally Posted by SuperTrooper

What about all the racial hatred these muslim protestor's are stiring,leave the BNP alone and support them.

One of said Muslims has just been convicted for incitement over the Cartoon protests.

However, leaving the BNP alone is not easy since they are a one-trick pony with a pretty unsavoury trick.

**Ray** · 8th January 2007 03:55

Originally Posted by Trooth

If other countries have anti-incitement laws they should be applied. However in this case the BNP were aquitted, i am assuming you don't believe the Muslims baying for blood should be?

Do you?

**Trooth** · 8th January 2007 14:27

Originally Posted by Ray

Do you?

Are you answering a question with a question? :)

If you incite people to harm others then you should be punished under the law. One of the muslim cartoon protestors has just been convicted of exactly that.

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