1971 facts from fiction

**~~Jana~~** · 17 Jun 06,, 16:53

much had been said and posted on 1971 .

Here is something published by indian newspaper today.

See the link for images also.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/106031...ry_5969733.asp

**Jay** · 17 Jun 06,, 17:12

Facts my a$$. Sarmila Bose again, she took one event(Jessore massacare) and you extrapolate it to whole of Bangaldesh. Real genius, eh??

Did you ever get a chance to read Hamdoor comission report by your Pakistan govt?

There are many accounts of people who were in the grave yard and war grounds, so I wish Sarmila Bose had checked their accounts too, she just brushed them under the carpet as partisan reports. So according to her view only the BBC reporter in 1971 was telling the truth, the rest of them were a pack of lies.

I just wish they took the pictures of hundreds of thousands of dead bangla's just to shove it on Sarmila's throat.

**Neo** · 17 Jun 06,, 21:57

The images are horrible!

**Tronic** · 17 Jun 06,, 23:28

yea... sort of... but I guess ive seen worse... high-megapixel pics from Iraq war... and plus, the videos of the beheadings of prisoners by the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan are quite gruesome (and easy to find on the internet)...

**Skydancer** · 18 Jun 06,, 00:18

Originally Posted by Jay

she just brushed them under the carpet as partisan reports.

Please dont let your bias cloud your judgement.

**Tronic** · 18 Jun 06,, 02:26

bias about what? Jay stated that the author only used the incident at Jessore... he is not denying the incident... he is merely saying... ok.. at Jessore some Bengali rebels killed these people, but what about the rest of East Pakistan where hundreds of thousands of Bengalis were slaughtered by the Pak Army... the author has brushed aside the massace of hundreds of thousands of Bengali's all over East Pakistan meanwhile highlighting the killings of a few hundred at Jessore...

**Ray** · 18 Jun 06,, 09:18

Jana,

If it will only please you, India was defeated in 1971 and 93,000 PsW were all Indians!

At this rate, Salman Rushdie would be taken as having written the truth about Islam, Mohammed and the Koran in in Satanic Verses!

Go figure!

**Skydancer** · 18 Jun 06,, 11:38

Originally Posted by Ray

Jana,

If it will only please you, India was defeated in 1971 and 93,000 PsW were all Indians!

At this rate, Salman Rushdie would be taken as having written the truth about Islam, Mohammed and the Koran in in Satanic Verses!

Go figure!

Out of 93,000 only 45,000 something were regular soldiers, the rest were civilians and civil servants!!!

**Tronic** · 18 Jun 06,, 15:39

thats not what the Pakistani government acknowledged to...

**~~Vaman~~** · 18 Jun 06,, 16:33

You know... the entire thing is based on one (mis?)labelled photograph. From that to blaming the entire bangladeshi nationalist movement for the genocide in BD is a huge leap, but not one that idiots wouldnt take.

Originally Posted by Sarmila Bose

The alternative caption is in The East Pakistan Tragedy, by L.F. Rushbrook Williams, written in 1971 before the independence of Bangladesh. Rushbrook Williams is strongly in favour of the Pakistan government and highly critical of the Awami League.
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There was no reason to think he would willfully mislabel a photo of a massacre.

Thats like saying someone who has been involved in 100 robberies would not rob again.
The reason for mislabelling is right there in bold

In anycase, it was the sort of thing to be expected from the west which either chose to ignore and/or shield its ally - Pakistan - which was going around committing the genocide in BD.
BD genocides by the Paks is not something that one hears of often simply because it happened to be a US ally. Where as something like the Nanking Massacre is a lot more familiar because Japan was on the other side.

**Tronic** · 18 Jun 06,, 17:04

and to think that the US even sent a carrier force to protect the army carrying out such a genocide...

**lemontree** · 19 Jun 06,, 05:14

Originally Posted by Skydancer

Out of 93,000 only 45,000 something were regular soldiers, the rest were civilians and civil servants!!!

Not civilian per say, but paramilitary, razakars, police, and uniformed non-combatants. etc.

My battalion along with 1 Maratha LI and 2 Para, were the first troops to enter Dacca, and we along with 1 Maratha LI took the surrender of the PA units at the race course.

Now hell with Sharmila Bose or Arundhati Roy, I will believe telegrams of the US Embassy in Dacca referring to the PA atrocities in March 1971.

**bull** · 19 Jun 06,, 08:20

Originally Posted by lemontree

Not civilian per say, but paramilitary, razakars, police, and uniformed non-combatants. etc.

My battalion along with 1 Maratha LI and 2 Para, were the first troops to enter Dacca, and we along with 1 Maratha LI took the surrender of the PA units at the race course.

Now hell with Sharmila Bose or Arundhati Roy, I will believe telegrams of the US Embassy in Dacca referring to the PA atrocities in March 1971.

Jana,
I think what Lt has posted settles the matter,right?

Or do u have more "truth" with you.

**~~Vaman~~** · 20 Jun 06,, 15:27

*bump*....
for people who cant read..

**~~Jana~~** · 20 Jun 06,, 16:20

Originally Posted by Ray

Jana,

If it will only please you, India was defeated in 1971 and 93,000 PsW were all Indians!

At this rate, Salman Rushdie would be taken as having written the truth about Islam, Mohammed and the Koran in in Satanic Verses!

Go figure!

Sir Ray if at all one had to expect this kind of post from an experince and sophisticated (i think u must be) person like you than where poor huris and venam type people will go.
With my due appology sir but atleast it wasnt expected from a person like you.