Thread: Are we Asians Racist?

Originally Posted by Zhang Fei

What we have here is an apples and oranges comparison. Indians and Chinese who emigrate to the US are the elite of their home countries - college-educated back home. You can't really compare their salaries with the salaries of average white Americans or Japanese Americans - of whom few are immigrants, let alone elite immigrants. The question really is whether they do better than elite white Americans and Japanese Americans - say the top 20% of each group. Here's the money quote from the article Ray posted:

Apparently, you have not read the article.

The article speaks of Asian Americans and not whites. So, there is a level playing field as far as Asians are concerned. And it does not confine itself to first time immigrants. Therefore, your contention on the Japanese American is understood.

It would be appropriate for me to indicate that it is misconception that those Indians who immigrate to the USA are all those whiz kids. Undergraduates are a dime to a dozen in India. I cannot comment about other countries, but in India, to be educated is a sign of upward mobility and social recognition! That is why Indians like to excel in their pursuit of educational qualifications!

The article states:

Most finished their undergraduate education in India and came here to get master’s degrees in American universities.

Quite a few Indians who migrate are taxi drivers (mostly in UK), restaurant hands, rundown motel owners (known as "Potels" since they are Gujarati owned and Patel is a common Gujarati surname), farm owners mostly in California etc. And the richest Indian, as per the BBC programme I saw yesterday, is someone called Ahuja who owns some restaurants! And if Ahuja is the educated whiz kid type, then that would be something!

In so far as the contention you raised in the other post of Christo grousing being attributed to losing his job to an Asian, India is flooded with Bangladeshis. They are cheap labour as are the Mexican in the US. Yet, there is no grouse on this issue. The grouse is mainly out of fear that they are rapidly changing the demographic equation as also they are susceptible as recruit for the radical Islam i.e. terrorists! The Nepalese coming to India for work (it is an open border) and they are treated at par with Indian citizens and most settle down in India! There is no animosity with the Nepalese settling down, more so since they have given their blood for India as they constitute a sizable segment of the Indian Army!

Originally Posted by parihaka

Bravo

Bravo from my side too, Confed!

Bravo is also the West Indian cricketer who demolished India in the ODIs!

Bravo and Brian Lara actually... damn... still can't get over the shock... we just lost the god damn series to the West Indies!!! hope we don't play like this in the World Cup next year...

Originally Posted by Tronic

Bravo and Brian Lara actually... damn... still can't get over the shock... we just lost the god damn series to the West Indies!!! hope we don't play like this in the World Cup next year...

Pride goes before a Fall!

Originally Posted by Christopher

yep this 'my race is better then your race' stuff is horrible, now you know what black people have to go through from you indians/pakistanis, now you know what my girlfriend has to go through. you can pretend indians/pakistanis don't say it, but around your dinner table with your families, or sitting in your living room with your families, its 'blacks are this and that etc. sometimes y'all do it to their faces, my girlfriends brother has lost count of the times asians have abused him with stereotypical and superiority b**ls**t and it just makes me laugh because when its done to you, you don't like it.

You are doing all this to impress your girlfriend, her brother and get a few nookies in the bargain?

Well, good luck to ya! Thats certainly a very laudable reason.

Originally Posted by Archer

You are doing all this to impress your girlfriend, her brother and get a few nookies in the bargain?

Well, good luck to ya! Thats certainly a very laudable reason.

I agree.

Originally Posted by Ray

The article speaks of Asian Americans and not whites. So, there is a level playing field as far as Asians are concerned. And it does not confine itself to first time immigrants. Therefore, your contention on the Japanese American is understood.

Take a look at the census numbers sometime. The vast majority of Japanese Americans go back many generations. The vast majority of Chinese and Indian Americans are recent immigrants, typically here on professional visas after finishing their post-graduate studies in the US.

From the article:

Most finished their undergraduate education in India and came here to get master’s degrees in American universities.

What this means is the census numbers used for allocating seats in Congress - not tiny random population samples - indicate that the *majority* of Indian Americans got undergraduate degrees in India, in a system where not everybody gets to go to university (a bit of understatement here). This means that the Indians here are from the top echelon of Indian society, based on their undergraduate degrees. If we're going to be comparing Indian salaries to Japanese salaries, we really ought to be comparing them to those of the top 20% of Japanese Americans.

Originally Posted by Tronic

Bravo and Brian Lara actually... damn... still can't get over the shock... we just lost the god damn series to the West Indies!!! hope we don't play like this in the World Cup next year...

You lost to the West Indies
Ha Ha, there's hope for the Black Caps yet!

Originally Posted by parihaka

You lost to the West Indies
Ha Ha, there's hope for the Black Caps yet!

Of course there is. Right until the semis against Pakistan. . Hate to bring it upm but remember Eden Gardens in 1992. Inzi............
BTW what kind of name is "black caps" anyway? Whatever happened the "Kiwis".

Originally Posted by sparten

Of course there is. Right until the semis against Pakistan. . Hate to bring it upm but remember Eden Gardens in 1992. Inzi............

Yeah, hate to bring it up (again) yeah right
Our revenge will be terrible.

Originally Posted by sparten

BTW what kind of name is "black caps" anyway? Whatever happened the "Kiwis".

It's because of the All Blacks rugby team, so named because of their uniforms.
Because of their success every other sports team feels moved to add black to their title, hence "Black Caps", "Tall Blacks", "Black Sticks", and in one memorable moment the "Black co cks" (badminton team)

Originally Posted by parihaka

You lost to the West Indies
Ha Ha, there's hope for the Black Caps yet!

Well, I cant wait for the day when India wins a test series in New Zeland. You're wickets are hard.


Damn, why cant we have wickets like that here?

Originally Posted by Parihaka

Yeah, hate to bring it up (again) yeah right
Our revenge will be terrible.

Oh yes I remember your revenge, 1999 was it? . Or maybe the revenge was spiking our drinks before the final.

Originally Posted by sparten

Oh yes I remember your revenge, 1999 was it? . Or maybe the revenge was spiking our drinks before the final.

Hey don't blame us, Shane "2 for 69" Warne dealt to your boys without any help from us
As for our revenge, every time we go to Pakistan to exact the aformentioned your supporters set off a bomb to celebrate and bingo, the players get whiffy and back home they come

Originally Posted by sparten

Hate to bring it upm but remember Eden Gardens in 1992. Inzi............

I still have it on video somewhere.

Btw, did you check the current ODI ranking, look who's on 3rd/4rd spot...