Pakistan is fighting tribesmen and militants on the Afghan border
Pakistan and Afghanistan are among the world's top 10 most vulnerable states, according to a new study.
The report - compiled by the US Foreign Policy magazine and the US-based Fund for Peace think-tank - ranked 146 nations according to their viability.
Judged according to 12 criteria, including human flight and economic decline, states range from the most failed, Sudan, to the least, Norway.
Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka are rated 19th, 20th and 25th respectively.
The top 60 positions in the list were occupied almost exclusively by African, Middle Eastern, and Asian countries.
India was ranked 93rd, Bhutan came 39th and the Maldives were not mentioned.
Internal conflicts
The second annual "failed states index" was based on "tens of thousands of articles" from different sources gathered over several months in 2005 and reviewed by experts, its authors said.
FAILED STATES 2006 - TOP 10
1. Sudan (3)*
2. DR Congo (2)*
3. Ivory Coast (1)*
4. Iraq (4)*
5. Zimbabwe (15)*
6. Chad (7)*
(Tie) Somalia(5)*
8. Haiti (10)*
9. Pakistan (34)*
10 Afghanistan (11)*
Position in 2005 report
Sudan tops 'failed states index'
Do you live in a failed state?
Each nation was given an overall score based on the 12 criteria:
mounting demographic pressures
massive movement of refugees and internally displaced peoples
legacy of vengeance - seeking group grievance
chronic and sustained human flight
uneven economic development along group lines
sharp and/or severe economic decline
criminalisation and delegitimisation of the state
progressive deterioration of public services
widespread violation of human rights
security apparatus as "state within a state"
rise of factionalised elites
intervention of other states or external actors
Pakistan's 'plunge'
Pakistan moved from 34th last year to ninth in the new report - one of the sharpest changes in the overall score of any country on the list.
The contributing factors were Pakistan's inability to police the tribal areas near the Afghan border, the devastating earthquake last October in Kashmir and rising ethnic tensions, the report said.
Afghanistan, ranked 10th, faces different problems from Iraq, which despite the presence of US-led troops came fourth, the report said.
Educated exiled Afghans had been slow to go home following the ousting of the Taleban in 2001, but poor refugees had returned from Pakistan and Iran in large numbers, the study said.
"The result is a capital city busting at the seams but short of trained administrators."
India might have the edge over China (57) in the long run, the report's authors suggested.
Pauline Baker, president of the Fund for Peace, told the Associated Press news agency that India had greater social mobility and was more decentralised than its more populous neighbour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4964934.stm
Yes India has some problems, we have inter-religious-ethnic-caste tensions in our country, we have corruption etc... but we are a functioning healthy transparent democracy which manages to overcome these odds.
Pakistan on the other hand is a failed theocratic state with little rule of law and zero civil liberities.
Lol, waiting for the 4th freakin thread on the same issue.
Lol shows the desperation of some Indians to show Pakistan down :D
hahahahaha, Bull posted first, let his one continue.
Man this is like the 2nd or the third time a remotely anti-Pak topic pops up and there're threads everywhere on the same darn topic! Oh yes Blademaster explained it to me
hahaha Frailty thy name is..."People will see this thread and realize what kind of people you are.... liars and hypocrites"
Its not about showing Pakistan down ...
showing pakistan down would be posting the Mukhtar Mai rape case again and again, or the honor killings etc...
honestly thats like throwing **** at your neighbours face, when you're not that clean yourself. (Like I said, India has its problems too)
However, this is a piece of news, that is about the Country as a WHOLE.
Its based on thousands of research reports, and just look at the criteria they have used, the variables used for the analysis are very encompassing.
Its news that is worth being discussed.
http://www.fundforpeace.org/publicat...p_pakistan.pdf
read hier report, based on bullsh!t, according to them the majority ofour population support Al Queda, when surveys by the Media deny any such thing. This is pure B.S
Thier main arguement is human rights, yet right now we have the freest media ever.
The MAJORITY of Pakistanis DO support Al Qaeda.
Thats because the majority of Pakistanis are illiterate and uneducated. Its not their fault to fall victim to Islamic extremist propoganda. The Schooling system in pakistan is also dysfunctional in most rural areas. Except for Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore where the urban elites live, the rural and tribal populations support Al-Qaeda, because they are simply not educated enough.
Also thanks to the madrassa system, and the legacy of Zia ul Haq's sectarianism... there is institutional and organizational support for al qaeda financed within and from beyond pakistans borders.
Why do you think that the Taleban and Al Qaeda consider Pakistan to be a safe haven? Why does Pakistan produce a disproportionately large number of terrorists?
When I say Pakistani, I do not mean to refer to the people on this board who are educated, come from good families, can afford the internet etc. Im talking about the average Pakistani, and the report refers to them as well.
Pakistan claimed to be a failed state? That IS news to me.Originally Posted by Aryaramnaes
Your keenness is not.
The Taleban stronghold of Waziristan(Pakistan)
It was perhaps inevitable that the conflict in Afghanistan between the US-backed government of Hamid Karzai and remnants of the ousted Taleban regime would spill across into Waziristan.
Over the last couple of years, this has led to the emergence of local Taleban commanders and brought droves of Arab and Central Asian militants to Pakistani territory.
Entering Waziristan feels like travelling back in time.
The sparsely populated and dramatic barren hills show few signs of having encountered modern times.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4939688.stm
Taleban elements roam freely in Pakistan. Terrorists goto Pakistan for training.
There is massive support for Islamic extermism in Pakistan, and it is something that the educated people of Pakistan need to tackle.
Is this the fourth posts on the same topic i.e. Pakistan is a Top Failed State?
I have searched but I could not find a similar thread. Where are the others located?
It is surprising that Pakistan has jumped from 34th position to the 9th. Obviously, this does indicate that things are sliding downhill in Pakistan rather fast.
This downhill slide especially on law and order is not surprising if one goes by the reports in the Pakistani media. Notwithstanding this BBC news does cause alarm.
The administrative posts in Balochistan is going abegging! The hapless Pakistan PM has doled out "bribes" in a manner of speaking to lure bureaucrats to go to Baluchistan. The allurement has taken the form of 50% pay hike, promotions, air ticket for self and family twice a year to their home, a plum posting of one's choice if one can hang around for 3 years etc etc!
The above allurement is a clear indication of the strife and chaos that has permeated Pakistan. Journalists are not allowed to enter NWFP and it is a closed house. The Shias are getting browned off in NA. Chitral has had problems. In Sind villages have been razed. It is only in the Punjab that the situation is business as usual. But then Punjab is not Pakistan, or is it?
It does not bring cheer in the least that Pakistan is in such a sorry state, Instead, it worries since it is India's neighbour and a turbulent Pakistan is dangerous for India. After all, to divert Pakistanis from their woes, there is always the placebo of whipping up an anti Indian hysteria. The massacres in Doda maybe a harbinger of evil tidings. Therefore, it does not portend well.
A wind de la mort seems to be blowing across Pakistan. We all must see how best we can salvage the situation so that Pakistan returns to even keel.
"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."
I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.
HAKUNA MATATA
ISLAMABAD: The movie salesman was selling jihad to the converted. The buyers thronging his stall on the sidelines of a late-night rally in the Pakistani capital belonged to a crowd organized by a sectarian Sunni group.
"This is the latest video of the beheadings," he told his customers, as they pored over titles including "Slaughter of Americans in Iraq," "Slaughter of Traitors in Afghanistan" and "Taliban Celebrations."
In Pakistan, compelled to join a US-led global war on terrorism after Al-Qaida's September 11 attack on the United States, anger has risen over what many see as an attempt by the West to suppress Muslims around the world.
The video seller didn't have the latest action from the conflict on the Afghan border, but he had something just as gruesome. "This one is about the activities of mujahideen in Waziristan and Afghanistan," the seller said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1513083.cms
It is the third:
Failed States Index 2006 - US Foreign Policy Magazine
Pakistan 'is a top failed state'
Another feather in the cap for Paksitan
Asim,
Different people, different threads, honest mistake.
Mean while that is still a lot less dishonest then a stunt of yours which resulted in two almost identical comments of mine on your deliberate dishonesty of once again knowingly posting an already posted topic.
Here and here as well.
Physician heal thyself.
I wasnt aware people had posted the topic earlier. In any case it was something worth mentioning and discussing because it is about the NATION AS A WHOLE.
not some petty issue about rape, killing, micro level issues.
This is a macro-level institutional governmental and societal issue that deserves attention. India has been telling the world that Pakistan is a failed state for a while, and finally it has been acknowledged as one.
Pakistan needs help.
Aryaramnes,
Asim can be summarily ignored.
See my links.
Do note though the senior thread is the one started by Bull.
You were always a slow learner!
dyslexia?
"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."
I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.
HAKUNA MATATA
One discusses that Iran and Pak went ahead without India. India can still join in.Asim,
Different people, different threads, honest mistake.
Mean while that is still a lot less dishonest then a stunt of yours which resulted in two almost identical comments of mine on your deliberate dishonesty of once again knowingly posting an already posted topic
Here and here as well.
Physician heal thyself
The other discusses that Pak is now going to consume all the gas flowing through that pipe. Which effectively means that India is out of that pipeline project. It is also discussed here that India can join in a 2nd pipeline project.
You're right. That was no mistake. There's a world of difference.
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