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    Poor response to Pakistan's EQ

    The way of the world



    By Irfan Husain


    JUST before I began writing this during a brief visit to London, I learned from the Guardian that a UN meeting had been convened in Geneva a day earlier to discuss earthquake relief for Pakistan. Unfortunately, only 12 per cent of the target of 310 million pounds set by the UN had been met.

    Oxfam,
    the British charity, accused rich countries like France, Belgium and Spain of doing practically nothing. President Musharraf declared in a recent interview that the amount pledged thus far was ‘totally inadequate’. And while nations haggle about who will give how much, people in Azad Kashmir are dying on the mountainsides.

    A letter from a person involved in relief work in Ghari Dupatta says: “Thousands of ordinary people desperate to help have made the long, arduous and harrowing trek to what used to be Kashmir. I am just another one of them... Here I am, back in my home... light years from the flimsy tent where the freezing cold nipped ceaselessly at my hands and feet. Layers upon layers [sic] of clothing, and I was still very, very cold. The stench of death was overpowering and consumed us by night as the cold air descended from the hills to remind us of the horrors that remained hidden in the inaccessible mountains rising above us... Rivers of dead cattle, streams of dazed people... their lives changed beyond recognition and comprehension...”

    The writer goes on to complain that barely three weeks after the disaster, media coverage has already decreased, and fears that this indifference will cause donations for relief and rehabilitation to diminish to a trickle. But I’m afraid this is the way of the world. Fresh natural catastrophes, wars and scams make demands on newspaper space and television time. People get bored of one crisis, and last week’s disaster is this week’s stale news.

    Donor fatigue is another factor one is rightly concerned about. Already, the Azad Kashmir earthquake is failing to move foreigners despite the desperate plight of its people. One is reminded of the vast sums that flowed into post-tsunami relief efforts. But people forget that Thailand and Sri Lanka are popular destinations for globe-trotting tourists. These are the people who donated so generously when the tsunami hit late last year. They empathized with the locals whose lives had suddenly been shattered. The reality is that hardly any foreigners are foolhardy enough to visit Pakistan unless they have to for business or family reasons.

    In a sense, charity does begin at home. It is much easier to help people one knows, even if they live far away. There has to be something in common to move us enough to give to strangers. In all fairness, how many of us write a cheque to help the starving millions in Africa? Or the many victims of frequent disasters in different parts of the world? This is a very human trait, so we need not feel guilty. It’s just the way the world is.

    Another reason for the poor response is that, like it or not, Pakistan does have an image problem. Although the poor victims and survivors of the killer quake can hardly be held responsible for it, the world sees Pakistan and Pakistanis in a negative light. General Musharraf is right in expressing his concern about this state of affairs, but he forgets that you cannot improve the image without improving the product.

    For years, we were seen as drug peddlers to the world. Heroin and marijuana from these shores flooded western markets, and many fortunes were built on this illicit traffic. Indeed, proceeds from this destructive trade have financed many parliamentary elections, palatial houses and lavish parties. While we prefer to turn a blind eye to the provenance of such ill-gotten wealth, foreigners do not.

    Our more recent claim to fame is our standing as the hub of religious extremism and terrorism. While we suffer more from this particular form of madness than any other people, outsiders do not want it exported to their countries.
    So every time a traveller with the dreaded green passport enters a foreign country (provided he can get a visa), he is subjected to suspicion and scrutiny. And we must not forget the flood of illegal immigrants that is our other major export to the rest of the world.

    Under these circumstances, it is not difficult to see why Pakistanis are not the flavour of the month with much of the world. Of course it is manifestly unjust that the poor Kashmiris should suffer by association. But life is often unfair.

    In Britain, the image of Pakistan has largely been shaped by the flood of working class Punjabis and Kashmiris who flocked here in the ‘50s and ‘60s to work in factories in North England. Over time, many of these factories have closed down, rendering thousands jobless. With uneducated parents who generally did not place much emphasis on education, their children were ill-prepared to excel in an increasingly sophisticated labour market. The third generation is torn between their rural, religious roots and a post-modern, secular Britain. The 7/7 bombers are a product of this community. Among all the Asian communities who have made Britain their home, Kashmiri-Pakistanis are most heavily represented in the jail population.

    The truth of the matter is that if we wait for the rest of the world to help, tens of thousands of Kashmiris shivering in their remote villages will freeze to death. We must rely on our own resources to save these desperate souls. I read the other day that Pakistan has deferred the purchase of F-16 jet fighters. This is a good step. Other frivolous defence spending must also be cut down.

    The recent full-page advertisements placed by public sector institutions to celebrate Musharraf’s sixth year in power are scandalous examples of sycophancy and waste. How many tents and blankets would this money have bought?

    But at the end of the day, while we must be grateful for whatever help the world has given us, we have to do the job ourselves.

    http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm
    Is it donor fatigue or is it fed up to the gills with Islamic terrorism with all roads leading to Pakistan?

    Is it fair?

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    probably both, more of the 2nd than the first i reckon.

    The french are proven racists, thier total lack of action has proven them to be spinless half wits yet again. I hope we never invest money in another french weapon ever again.

    There is plenty of money around, just people unwilling to donate.

    Take a little example Kuwait, gave the US half a billion dollars after katrina, has given Pakistan half that, has ignored the poverty in the african horn on it's doorstep entirely.

    You see nopwadays charity is not given to those who need it, it's given to those who will help you.

    what relations do Pakistan and Cuba have, yet this world piriah state have donate more than 300 doctors as well as other material aid, for us, they are better people than Europe.

    The only nations in Europe who has really helped in the UK. I think the US contribution has been the most important. Without trying to sound like an asslicker, if they have donated 10 billion dollars, it'd probably gone to waste, the 24 chinooks are being used....and are helping in a situation that was otherwise desperate.

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    just to add, if the world doesn't want to help, we are not going to beg, we shall get back on our own two feet, as all alive nations do.

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    It's disappointing, to say the very least. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by platinum786
    just to add, if the world doesn't want to help, we are not going to beg, we shall get back on our own two feet, as all alive nations do.
    That statement is arrogantly incorrect.

    Musharrah has made it too obvious that he desperately wants international aid and the tone was not really as if the statement was without the suggestion of begging.

    Worse was when aid was given by the US, the Parliamentarians went on record to state that the US was not doing enough.

    Likewise the drama over NATO aid as also of Indian aid.

    As if it is the US' bounden duty or any other countries obligation to God to salvage every country every time it cannot manage its own affairs!

    Now, if these aids were lousy, then Pakistan should have just not taken it. It is ridiculous to take it and then bad mouth the giver of aid!

    I am sure all countries have compassion, but what it finds abhorring is the arrogance in the begging!
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    Quote Originally Posted by platinum786
    just to add, if the world doesn't want to help, we are not going to beg, we shall get back on our own two feet, as all alive nations do.
    This is where mushraff letsu downm.he has bragging down everywhere abt the worlds step motherly treatment, head of state shud never state anything like that especcialy fo a country big as pakistan.
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    Sorry to say this, but when India announced a sum of $25mil aid to Pakistan.....bombs went off in New Delhi?

    You see nowadays charity is not given to those who need it, it's given to those who will help you.
    Its a dog eat dog world.
    Cant really complain about it.

    Secondly nobody is bound by duty to help Pakistan.
    God bless them if help.
    God bless them if they dont help.

    And finally Pakistan has a fair number of problems, a majority of which are creations of its own,which makes donors a wee bit uneasy about pumping money into Pakistan.

    So at the end of the day, after all the cursing is over, some time should be taken for introspection to see if there could be some reason why the world has not reacted the way it should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samudra
    Sorry to say this, but when India announced a sum of $25mil aid to Pakistan.....bombs went off in New Delhi?



    Its a dog eat dog world.
    Cant really complain about it.

    Secondly nobody is bound by duty to help Pakistan.
    God bless them if help.
    God bless them if they dont help.

    And finally Pakistan has a fair number of problems, a majority of which are creations of its own,which makes donors a wee bit uneasy about pumping money into Pakistan.

    So at the end of the day, after all the cursing is over, some time should be taken for introspection to see if there could be some reason why the world has not reacted the way it should have.
    Well said.
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    While postponing the F 16 did indicate that Pakistan was serious in prioritising the EQ relief, the SAAB deal put a lot of cold water over the intent unfortuantely.

    Notwithstanding, I am of the belief that donor countries should build the destroyed infrastructure themselves so that real succour is given to those who have suffered.

    That way, there will be no diversion of funds for non EQ purposes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray

    That statement is arrogantly incorrect.
    Is it Sir?
    What if no more aid is given?
    Would we cease to exist?
    No! We'll recover and move on with our lives.
    We're in need today but we're not without resources of our own.

    Thats what plat means and I second that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samudra
    Sorry to say this, but when India announced a sum of $25mil aid to Pakistan.....bombs went off in New Delhi?
    Don't see how that money is related to the blast in Delhi
    Let it be a lesson for bothends.
    Never give or accept from eachother.

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    $2.336bn foreign aid pledges secured

    ISLAMABAD: The country has secured foreign assistance pledges of $2,336.4 million for quake relief, with $211.2 million cash received so far in the President’s Relief Fund. While at domestic level, an amount of Rs 5.4 billion (cash) has been deposited in the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) out of a total of Rs 5.676 billion pledges, according to a press release issued by the Federal Relief Commission here on Thursday.

    The figures of the Relief Commissioner Office also put the death toll as on November 10 at 73,294 with 69,344 seriously injured and 58,896 injured.

    According to the press release, the government has so far distributed Rs 1407.2 million among the earthquake victims in terms of compensation for death, injuries and house damages. The break-up shows that Rs 1038.4 million has been distributed among affected families of 10,364 dead, Rs. 32.05 million among 1282 injured and Rs. 247.76 among people as compensation for damages to 12644 houses. In Azad Kashmir Rs 342.81 million have been distributed as compensation for deaths and Rs 301.21 million for houses damage. In NWFP, Rs. 695.6 million have been paid as compensation for deaths, Rs 32.05 million were paid to the injured and Rs 46.55 million have been paid as compensation for houses damage. Relief activities figures show that so far 339,358 tents, 3,191,487 blankets, 46579.5 tons of ration, 2990.337 tons of medicines and 8131.446 tons of miscellaneous items have been distributed among the affected people.

    Figure of total sorties generated by the PAF and Army Aviation till November 8 stands at 5,494 with 146 sorties generated by Aviation on November 9. Digital exchange at Chinari has successfully been restored.

    About the road clearance, in Neelum Valley (72 km), road has been cleared for traffic up to 13.2 km from Muzaffarabad and 33 km mule track has been restored from Muzaffarabad to Deolian. In Jeswa Bypass (43 km), 33 km road from Jura and 20.3 km road from Muzaffarabad has been cleared. In Jhelum valley (54 km), 59 km road from Muzaffarabad to Hattian Bala has been cleared, while road up to Chakothi opened on Nov 8.
    Pledges seem to be going well but sofar just a friction has been actually received.
    Thats what Mushhy or Annan are telling the media.

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    Neo,

    The issue is that if you feel aggrieved that the world is not going to aid and you can stand on your own two feet, then why take the aid in the first place?

    Shun it right from the beginning.

    If one is to adopted the attitude of - who cares?, then adopted it right from the beginning and damn them all.

    Having taken, then acting chirpy is ridiculous. That's what I feel.

    If India had taken aid during the tsunami and then acted chirpy, I would have said the same thing of India.

    One must have grace and sophistication to even accept a gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    Neo,

    The issue is that if you feel aggrieved that the world is not going to aid and you can stand on your own two feet, then why take the aid in the first place?

    Shun it right from the beginning.

    If one is to adopted the attitude of - who cares?, then adopted it right from the beginning and damn them all.

    Having taken, then acting chirpy is ridiculous. That's what I feel.

    If India had taken aid during the tsunami and then acted chirpy, I would have said the same thing of India.

    One must have grace and sophistication to even accept a gift.
    yes.i second that
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    Neo,

    Contrary to the myth perpetuated by "interested" parties to indicate that I am anti Pakistan (as has been displayed by the wonderment if I am the "real" Ray), I don't hesitate to be critical of my own country.

    There are many threads where some of the abhorring customs of India have been highlighted. I have condemned such acts. I have not been an apologist and defending the undefendable.

    Likewise, though there is no news in India on President Kalam threatening to resign because of the political skullduggery that is being attiributed, yet I did not hestitate in highlighting the issue by starting a thread, based on a Pakistani newspaper.

    What is wrong in my opinion, is wrong. But, you have to remember it is MY opinion and it need not be correct; and if not correct, a rejoinder with logic would be the right way to correct the error.

    Unfortuantely, rejoinders in most cases are mere gut reaction without any explanation.

    At least, you discuss issues with facts and that is why it is always a pleasure to give the due weightage to your posts that it deserves.

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