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    China's Serious Pollution Problem

    China's Serious Environment Problem


    Are you going to China? Then I will tell you pollution in China is very serious. The Chinese and government official's environmental protection consciousness is very low. The Chinese industry economy increases quickly; pollution grows more serious more; and the great majority of Chinese are insensitive to the pollution. This is a Chinese, as well as, global disaster in the making. I request you help China.

    Car and motorcycle traffic is increasing greatly. The population in China is multitudinous"1300000000".is five times as the population of the US. China is short of cultivated land. in spite of this case,The Chinese government is developing the private car industry greatly, new highway construction will take up large areas of land. Traffic accidents increased greatly. In 2003 200,000 people died in traffic accidents in China.


    Building development is in mass confusion. Building technique is primitive and building in consuming large amounts of materials. In 2003 China poured 44% of the world's cement. Building a house will consume more amounts of cement brick and decorative colorful brick in China than The Western Nation. But these houses make little use of insulation letting heat flow out in the winter and letting the heat in during the hot summer months. House repairs are more difficult, too.chinese concerns beauty of own house very much,but chinese don't concern about environment round the house.they spend large money on their own house,but they are stingy in cost of the environment around their house.


    Garbage removal is primitive.chinese don't know Garbage classification.waste plastic bags is visible everywhere. The Chinese people like to use plastic bags and batteries just once and then throw them away.china government pay great attention to beauty of city.they afford large money in images structure of city.but they pay little attention to garbage classification.large amounts of garbage is made by large consumption.


    River is polluted by chemical fertilizer,pesticide,herbicides,chemical synthetic detergent(washing powders),industry waste water,human excrement and urine,garbage.waste water excrement and urine flow directly into river without any sanitation practices.the most river in china is unsuitable for drinking.many china people is harmed by drinking water in polluted river.


    Education in protecting environment is blank. People's understanding and concept of protecting the environment is quite low. China's people are poor, but they are not frugal.Chinese are concerned the beauty of house but don't concerned the beauty of environment,Chinese are concerned about their own health but don't care about environmental health. They like to inject and swallow more medicines,eat more wild animals, but they don't realize that the polluted food, water and air is threatening their health greatly.

    China is imitating the West's high pattern of consumerism. Chinese hope per a people owning private car and Motorcycle,living big and big house. Consuming large power source as Western nations do. The Chinese government is making effort to realize this aim. China is producing large cars and motorcycles, large cement and brick.Exploiting large coal mines and oil field, large ore mines. Building large multi-story buildings and huge highway construction patterns. Enlarging blindly more and more area of cities and towns land. Large areas of land are damaged by the exploitation of natural resources.

    The population in China is multitudinous, 1.3 billion(perhaps 1.4or1.5 billion)people, five times the population of the US. China is short of cultivated land. The actual situation demands that China doesn't imitate the West's high consumption. China should develop electronic information consumption. Should develop economizing energy industries. If not, the Chinese would ruin their own environment,in further more, affect the global environment.

    The Chinese don't realize that pollution is their most dangerous enemy.

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    Chen. Are you a doctor?

    Nice to meet you.

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    I don't think it's a good idea for a Chinese citizen to criticize the Chinese government and then put there name, address and phone number at the bottom of the post. I'm just an outsider, however, so maybe I'm wrong.
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    I agree im quite sure they will face some prison time.

    I find this increasingly alarming though that with such high levels of pollution China is not part of the kyoto protocol. How can you have the biggest polluter of the ozone layer and the country with the most coal plants not in the protocol.

    Hence the Kyoto protocol is Moronic .

    And so is China. 1 China's economy, 2 the worlds environment.....

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    Dear sir and sirs,I am glad to meet you.
    I am a ear-nose-throat doctor.I like to protect environment against pollution,but I am alone in against pollution in china,who can help me?

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    Dont worry, IP test would reveal all. I dont think WAB type free world website would be available in dragon land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chenyu
    China's Serious Environment Problem


    Are you going to China? Then I will tell you pollution in China is very serious. The Chinese and government official's environmental protection consciousness is very low. The Chinese industry economy increases quickly; pollution grows more serious more; and the great majority of Chinese are insensitive to the pollution. This is a Chinese, as well as, global disaster in the making. I request you help China.

    Car and motorcycle traffic is increasing greatly. The population in China is multitudinous"1300000000".is five times as the population of the US. China is short of cultivated land. in spite of this case,The Chinese government is developing the private car industry greatly, new highway construction will take up large areas of land. Traffic accidents increased greatly. In 2003 200,000 people died in traffic accidents in China.


    Building development is in mass confusion. Building technique is primitive and building in consuming large amounts of materials. In 2003 China poured 44% of the world's cement. Building a house will consume more amounts of cement brick and decorative colorful brick in China than The Western Nation. But these houses make little use of insulation letting heat flow out in the winter and letting the heat in during the hot summer months. House repairs are more difficult, too.chinese concerns beauty of own house very much,but chinese don't concern about environment round the house.they spend large money on their own house,but they are stingy in cost of the environment around their house.


    Garbage removal is primitive.chinese don't know Garbage classification.waste plastic bags is visible everywhere. The Chinese people like to use plastic bags and batteries just once and then throw them away.china government pay great attention to beauty of city.they afford large money in images structure of city.but they pay little attention to garbage classification.large amounts of garbage is made by large consumption.


    River is polluted by chemical fertilizer,pesticide,herbicides,chemical synthetic detergent(washing powders),industry waste water,human excrement and urine,garbage.waste water excrement and urine flow directly into river without any sanitation practices.the most river in china is unsuitable for drinking.many china people is harmed by drinking water in polluted river.


    Education in protecting environment is blank. People's understanding and concept of protecting the environment is quite low. China's people are poor, but they are not frugal.Chinese are concerned the beauty of house but don't concerned the beauty of environment,Chinese are concerned about their own health but don't care about environmental health. They like to inject and swallow more medicines,eat more wild animals, but they don't realize that the polluted food, water and air is threatening their health greatly.

    China is imitating the West's high pattern of consumerism. Chinese hope per a people owning private car and Motorcycle,living big and big house. Consuming large power source as Western nations do. The Chinese government is making effort to realize this aim. China is producing large cars and motorcycles, large cement and brick.Exploiting large coal mines and oil field, large ore mines. Building large multi-story buildings and huge highway construction patterns. Enlarging blindly more and more area of cities and towns land. Large areas of land are damaged by the exploitation of natural resources.

    The population in China is multitudinous, 1.3 billion(perhaps 1.4or1.5 billion)people, five times the population of the US. China is short of cultivated land. The actual situation demands that China doesn't imitate the West's high consumption. China should develop electronic information consumption. Should develop economizing energy industries. If not, the Chinese would ruin their own environment,in further more, affect the global environment.

    The Chinese don't realize that pollution is their most dangerous enemy.

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    name:chenyu.
    ADDRESS:people hospital.huangchuan County.henan Province.china. code:465150
    telephone:008613598583618
    home telephone:008603973923000
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    I like green.like science.like internet.like to live in a small house around plants trees.oppose high consumption.
    i visited china during this summer. i have to admit, at beijing i couldn't see anything more than 1/2 mile out. the river in the farms are dark brown and smelly. china need to improve on its pollution problem

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    The commies will deal with this the same way they deal with everything else: sweep it under the table and count on everyone else looking the other way so they can have cheap manufactured goods.
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    When people have no meaningful political power, this is what you get. When the state owns everything, this is what you get.

    If ANYthing is to be protected and taken care of, it must belong to somebody. Commonly-held property will ALWAYS deteriorate, and will always be less productive.

    Anybody care to guess why a mail truck wears out in one-third the time and miles of a UPS truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesman
    Anybody care to guess why a mail truck wears out in one-third the time and miles of a UPS truck?
    Well, ignoring the fact that UPS uses those big rugged vans, and mail trucks are just those little jeeps, I don't believe you that there is a major difference.

    While it is true that commonly owned property is generally less productive that private property, it doesn't ALWAYS have to be that way.

    But if you are so much for getting rid of commonly held property, lets start with the biggest concentration of it: the military. Aircraft carriers, nuclear subs, destroyers, stealth bombers are a huge drain on our economy.

    And China isn't the largest emitter of greenhouse gasses-- the US is. I don't know why nobody knows that. Furthermore, the Kyoto protocol allows China more leeway in greenhouse gas emission because they are still industrializing, and Western nations didn't have to have such restrictions during their process of industrialization. If China and the US were at the same level of development then it would make sense to have the same restrictions. Of course this is a moot point because the President doesn't believe in global warming, and so we aren't a part of the Kyoto treaty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrowaj
    Of course this is a moot point because the President doesn't believe in global warming, and so we aren't a part of the Kyoto treaty.
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    Oneman,

    Please comment.

    Chenyu,

    You want to go to Reform Camp badly?

    How can you behave so shamefully and let the Glorious Path that our great Leader Deng has chosen for us?

    Are you a captalist roader, a lackey and their running dog?

    You are a traitor to the Great Labour of our Peasant and Working Brothers.

    You are a lazy relic of the Manchu dynasty.

    Red Salute.

    May the Glorious Fight against the Oppression of the Capitalist US pig dog succeed!

    You are a dirty Revisionist!

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    Personally I don't see the big deal. It's their country, let 'em stink it up as much as we all stunk our countries up while were were fighting up the steep slope of industrialization. When they can afford it, they'll probably clean it up, just like we did.

    And congrats on those astronauts!

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    Personally I don't see the big deal. It's their country, let 'em stink it up as much as we all stunk our countries up while were were fighting up the steep slope of industrialization. When they can afford it, they'll probably clean it up, just like we did.
    because china stinking up their own country will affect the US, as well. residue from chinese (and of course other asian factories) have been detected at quite some levels along the west coast of the US.

    cleaning up a mess is a lot harder than preventing it. the chinese government, actually, is putting anti-pollution steps into control, not so much out of love from the environment but because it realizes that there is a danger from mass protests arising from pollution. many farmers have rioted due to this already.

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    actually, bluesman,

    When people have no meaningful political power, this is what you get. When the state owns everything, this is what you get.
    the reason why chinese pollution has shot up in the last ten years is because of an unrestrained free market economy, similar to what the US went through in the 1880s. pollution is largely caused not by SOEs but by hordes of new factories (especially in the southern region) created by venture capitalists from the West, taiwan, south korea, and japan. given that the government wholeheartedly supported these operations in the name of boosting up the chinese economy, the government until recently didn't give much of a damn about pollution.

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