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    2005 HDI rankings out

    HDI Rank
    1 Norway
    2 Iceland
    3 Australia
    4 Luxembourg
    5 Canada
    6 Sweden
    7 Switzerland
    8 Ireland
    9 Belgium
    10 United States
    11 Japan
    12 Netherlands
    13 Finland
    14 Denmark
    15 United Kingdom
    16 France
    17 Austria
    18 Italy
    19 New Zealand
    20 Germany
    21 Spain
    22 Hong Kong,China (SAR)
    23 Israel
    24 Greece
    25 Singapore
    26 Slovenia
    27 Portugal
    28 Korea,Rep.of
    29 Cyprus
    30 Barbados
    31 Czech Republic
    32 Malta
    33 Brunei Darussalam
    34 Argentina
    35 Hungary
    36 Poland
    37 Chile
    38 Estonia
    39 Lithuania
    40 Qatar
    41 United Arab Emirates
    42 Slovakia
    43 Bahrain
    44 Kuwait
    45 Croatia
    46 Uruguay
    47 Costa Rica
    48 Latvia
    49 Saint Kitts and Nevis
    50 Bahamas
    51 Seychelles
    52 Cuba
    53 Mexico
    54 Tonga
    55 Bulgaria
    56 Panama
    57 Trinidad and Tobago
    58 Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
    59 Macedonia,TFYR
    60 Antigua and Barbuda
    61 Malaysia
    62 Russian Federation
    63 Brazil
    64 Romania
    65 Mauritius
    66 Grenada
    67 Belarus
    68 Bosnia and Herzegovina
    69 Colombia
    70 Dominica
    71 Oman
    72 Albania
    73 Thailand
    74 Samoa (Western)
    75 Venezuela
    76 Saint Lucia
    77 Saudi Arabia
    78 Ukraine
    79 Peru
    80 Kazakhstan
    81 Lebanon
    82 Ecuador
    83 Armenia
    84 Philippines
    85 China
    86 Suriname
    87 Saint Vincent &
    the Grenadines
    88 Paraguay
    89 Tunisia
    90 Jordan
    91 Belize
    92 Fiji
    93 Sri Lanka
    94 Turkey
    95 Dominican Republic
    96 Maldives
    97 Turkmenistan
    98 Jamaica
    99 Iran,Islamic Rep.of
    100 Georgia
    101 Azerbaijan
    102 Occupied Palestinian Territories
    103 Algeria
    104 El Salvador
    105 Cape Verde
    106 Syrian Arab Republic
    107 Guyana
    108 Viet Nam
    109 Kyrgyzstan
    110 Indonesia
    111 Uzbekistan
    112 Nicaragua
    113 Bolivia
    114 Mongolia
    115 Moldova,Rep.of
    116 Honduras
    117 Guatemala
    118 Vanuatu
    119 Egypt
    120 South Africa
    121 Equatorial Guinea
    122 Tajikistan
    123 Gabon
    124 Morocco
    125 Namibia
    126 São Tomé and Principe
    127 India
    128 Solomon Islands
    129 Myanmar
    130 Cambodia
    131 Botswana
    132 Comoros
    133 Lao People ’s Dem.Rep.
    134 Bhutan
    135 Pakistan
    136 Nepal
    137 Papua New Guinea
    138 Ghana
    139 Bangladesh
    140 Timor-Leste
    141 Sudan
    142 Congo
    143 Togo
    144 Uganda
    145 Zimbabwe
    146 Madagascar
    147 Swaziland
    148 Cameroon
    149 Lesotho
    150 Djibouti
    151 Yemen
    152 Mauritania
    153 Haiti
    154 Kenya
    155 Gambia
    156 Guinea
    157 Senegal
    158 Nigeria
    159 Rwanda
    160 Angola
    161 Eritrea
    162 Benin
    163 Côte d ’Ivoire
    164 Tanzania,U.Rep.of
    165 Malawi
    166 Zambia
    167 Congo,Dem.Rep.of the
    168 Mozambique
    169 Burundi
    170 Ethiopia
    171 Central African Republic
    172 Guinea-Bissau
    173 Chad
    174 Mali
    175 Burkina Faso
    176 Sierra Leone
    177 Niger

    http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2...05_PKE_HDI.pdf
    Last edited by Aryan; 09 Sep 05, at 03:18.

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    A lot of cold countries in the top 10.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    A lot of cold countries in the top 10.
    And only one that can defend itself.

    -dale

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    And only one that can defend itself.

    -dale
    There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.
    you like Canadian weather ?!

    btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesaint
    you like Canadian weather ?!

    btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba
    It's not Canada. try again
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    It's not Canada. try again
    I'm sure it's not Switzerland or Sweden. Belgium is full of French. The rest don't matter. It's Australia right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.
    Easy, its Australia

    I'm thinking about moving there myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggs88
    I'm sure it's not Switzerland or Sweden. Belgium is full of French. The rest don't matter. It's Australia right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan
    Easy, its Australia

    I'm thinking about moving there myself...
    yep
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesaint
    btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba
    Oh yeah, when are you going to get that it doesn't matter to me? I won't compromise my values for better living conditions. You don't understand this. You think that by proving how bad Haiti is and how much better Cuba is that I'm going to change my mind. You need to understand that those things aren't that important to me.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

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    Australia is a great country to live in, but it would be odd having the seasons in reverse...

    The only reason Cuba ranks so highly is because they churn out thousands of doctors every year who end up getting paid less the taxi drivers. Its doing well because it can force people to work cheaply, not because its a fantastic place to live...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan
    Australia is a great country to live in, but it would be odd having the seasons in reverse...

    The only reason Cuba ranks so highly is because they churn out thousands of doctors every year who end up getting paid less the taxi drivers. Its doing well because it can force people to work cheaply, not because its a fantastic place to live...
    if you had to choose, would you rather be a doctor or a taxi driver, your salary being the same ?

    Besides, have you read the parameters for the HDI rankings ? Your explanation for Cuba's is wrong.

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    I'd rather not go through the hassle of 6 years of medical school and god knows what else if I could just get the same salary working as a taxi driver...

    And how was my explanation wrong? It is pretty straightforward. The HDI index is based on, among other things basic health indicators such as child mortality rates. If America could force all its doctors and nurses to work on half their current salary, they could increase the amount of doctors without increasing the size of the health budget. Not very ethical, but it is effective at making a country more healthier.

    Granted there are other factors involved, but the fact of the matter is no one here is going to want to live in a country where u'd get hung by the balls for not liking the leader.
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    The A.M.A. has us by the balls due to their strict quotas of doctors and medical equipment. This guarentees the doctors and MRI machines will be busy while the patients wait. Have you ever noticed that if you miss an appointment you can still be billed for it yet if the doctor misses your appointment(good reason or not) you are not compensated. The A.M.A holds all the cards and nothing short of a full fledged revolt will change things. There are doctor and nurse shortages in many areas. Not because of lack of qualified people who want to get into those fields, but because of the pitifully few med schools and training centers that will never catch up to demand. Some schools want to increase enrollment but the A.M.A says "Nope. Any unautherized increase will jepordize accreditation.
    On the other hand, we are awash in lawyers which creates nightmares for our judicial system.(too many stupid law suits and lawyers wanting to litigate everything into the ground whether it needs to get litigated or not. Their, "I need a new beemer so lets go litigate something" mentality is costing us millions.

    I have talked to a few people who escaped cuba. They felt cuba was a great place to live except for one thing. Castro and his political system has to go.

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    Dang, I must move to São Tomé and Principe!

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