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    France to Google: Free is illegal

    (AFP) PARIS — A French commercial court has found Google guilty of abusing the dominant position of its Google Maps application and ordered it to pay a fine and damages to a French mapping company.

    In a ruling Tuesday, the Paris court upheld an unfair competition complaint lodged by Bottin Cartographes against Google France and its parent company Google Inc. for providing free web mapping services to some businesses.
    The court ordered Google to pay 500,000 euros ($660,000) in damages and interest to the plaintiff and a 15,000 euro fine.

    The French company provides the same services for a fee and claimed the Google strategy was aimed at undercutting competitors by temporarily swallowing the full cost until it gains control of the market.

    "This is the end of a two-year battle, a decision without precedent," said the lawyer for Bottin Cartographes, Jean-David Scemmama.

    "We proved the illegality of (Google's) strategy to remove its competitors... the court recognised the unfair and abusive character of the methods used and allocated Bottin Cartographes all it claimed. This is the first time Google has been convicted for its Google Maps application," he said.

    A Google France spokesman said the company would appeal.

    "We will appeal this decision. We remain convinced that a free high-quality mapping tool is beneficial for both Internet users and websites. There remains competition in this sector for us, both in France and internationally," he said.

    Google has previously faced other difficulties in France and last March the country's data privacy regulator imposed a record fine of 100,000 euros on the company for collecting private information while compiling its Street View service.
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    Damn straight. We should also have to pay for browsing services, email services, news services, and photo searches as well. F**k France and all who sail in her.
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    More French imbecility. Add this to their Armenian law and the financial trading tax they have imposed on themselves and it adds up to a bucket of giggles for me; more si vous plait: 'foot, aim, shoot!' next.

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    If at any point of time some of Google services experiences net losses in their French operations, it would be only fair to go to the same court asking for a compensation
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    who can say this?:

    "hey! i started an obsolete business and i cant make profit. so others (successful ones) must pay me! this is fair!!!"

    les imbeciles...
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    We must subsidize le buggy whip industry - lest we find ourself with a shortage of buggy whips. While the rest of the world languishes without le buggy whip, the mighty France shall have them in abundance. We shall force the automotive parts makers to pay for this - they build accelerator linkages for automobiles - with no regard for le buggy whip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Damn straight. We should also have to pay for browsing services, email services, news services, and photo searches as well. F**k France and all who sail in her.
    That's a lot of sex my friend
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    protectionism and france? no way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Damn straight. We should also have to pay for browsing services, email services, news services, and photo searches as well. F**k France and all who sail in her.
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    Will Google pay or tell them to piss off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repatriated Canuck View Post
    Will Google pay or tell them to piss off?
    Apparently they will appeal.

    500,000 Euro is peanuts for Google, comparing to closing operations in second EU economy it is a no-brainer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    "We will appeal this decision. We remain convinced that a free high-quality mapping tool is beneficial for both Internet users and websites. There remains competition in this sector for us, both in France and internationally," he said.
    Is google that high quality when it comes to maps.

    Thought the high res stuff was only for pay and thats from specialised companies. Google does not play in the space or does it.

    Chances of verdict overturn on appeal ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post

    Chances of verdict overturn on appeal ?
    If they run it all they way up the chain and can prove they have no interest in competing and are simply providing a service then the chances of an overturn are pretty high.

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    Chances are minimal in my opinion. I think zraver underestimates the 'political influence' now abundant within French courts.

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    Are you suggesting the judiciary isn't independent in France ?

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