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    UK and Netherlands to sue Iceland over lost deposits

    BBC - 10 April 2011 Last updated at 20:26 GMT

    UK and Netherlands to sue Iceland over lost deposits

    The UK and Dutch governments are preparing court action against Iceland to recover 4bn euros (3.5bn) lost when the country's bank system collapsed.
    It follows a referendum in Iceland which rejected a repayment plan.

    The UK said it was "disappointed" by the "no" vote, while the Dutch finance minister said the time for negotiations was "over".
    Iceland's Finance Minister Steingrimur Sigfusson said that resolving the row in court would take at least a year.
    But he told the BBC: "It is very important to emphasise that the UK and the Netherlands will begin to get their money back later this year."
    He said the failed bank would be able to pay out on about 90% of claims from the UK and Dutch authorities.
    The UK and the Netherlands say they are owed the money following the collapse of Icelandic savings bank Icesave. British and Dutch depositors were bailed out by their governments, which are now demanding their money back.

    'Worst option'
    Iceland held a referendum at the weekend on a repayment plan, but with about 90% of the vote counted, 59.1% were against and 40.9% in favour.
    Johanna Sigurdardottir, Iceland's Prime Minister, said the rejection meant "the worst option was chosen" and had split the country in two.
    The UK's Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Danny Alexander, called the decision "disappointing" and said the matter would go to an international court.
    Speaking on the Andrew Marr programme, he said: "It's obviously disappointing... We tried to get a negotiated settlement.
    "We have an obligation to get that money back, and we will continue to pursue that until we do... We have a difficult financial position as a country and this money would help," he said.
    Dutch Finance Minister Jan Kees de Jager said he would be consulting Britain about taking further steps against Iceland, but added that the matter would likely end up in court.
    "I am very disappointed that the Icesave agreement did not get through. This is not good for Iceland, nor for the Netherlands.
    "The time for negotiations is over. Iceland remains obliged to repay. The issue is now for the courts to decide," Mr de Jager said in a statement.
    The issue will now be referred to an international court, the European Free Trade Association Surveillance Authority.
    Mr Sigfusson told a news conference that the dispute with Britain and the Netherlands would take at least a year to resolve in court.
    "My estimate is that the process will take a year, a year and a half at least," he said. However, some analysts believe the legal process would take considerably longer.
    He added that the outcome of the vote was clear. "I think it's very hard to interpret this in any other way than the fact that the Icelandic people are not prepared to accept payments or shoulder the burden unless there is a clear legal obligation to do so."
    Iceland's Landsbanki bank ran savings accounts in the UK and Netherlands under the name Icesave and investors there lost 4bn euros (3.5bn; $5.8bn).
    When it collapsed in 2008, the British and Dutch governments had to reimburse 400,000 citizens - and Iceland had to decide how to repay that money.

    'Such a revulsion'
    Iceland's parliament had backed the deal, but President Olafur Ragnar Grimsson refused to sign it, triggering the referendum.
    A previous deal, imposing a tougher repayment regime, was rejected in a March 2010 referendum by 93% of voters.
    Mr Sigfusson appeared to rule out a third attempt to persuade voters to accept a repayment deal.
    "I think we're getting a very clear sign from this referendum, that further negotiations are ruled out. No use in trying that again."
    But in his interview with BBC News, he said: "There is not much point in being angry. We are where we are and we have to work from then on. Iceland has made considerable progress out of its difficulties in 2008."
    Backers of a "yes" vote had argued the repayment deal was the best way to resolve the issue in terms of cost and risk to Iceland.
    The "no" camp said the Icelandic taxpayer was under no legal obligation to pay for a private bank's losses and that the deal would put a heavy burden on the nation.

    Longer period, lower interest
    Under the terms of the rejected deal, Iceland would have paid the money back with 3.3% interest to the UK, and 3% to the Netherlands, over 30 years between 2016 and 2046.
    Under the previous proposal, the money was to be paid back with 5.5% interest between 2016 and 2024.
    The actual cost to the state was expected to be much less than the 4bn euros owed, as the government said most of the repayment would come from selling the assets of Landsbanki.
    The government has said it did not expect the cost to exceed 50bn kronur (168m).
    Analysts say a resolution of the issue is vital to Iceland's prospects for recovery because it would allow the country to return to the financial markets to fund itself.
    Solving the dispute is also seen as key to Iceland's chances of joining the EU.
    Iceland's three main banks collapsed within days of each other in October 2008.
    The government compensated Icelandic savers, but overseas customers faced losing all of their money.
    The issue sparked a diplomatic row between Iceland and the UK, and created uncertainty over Iceland's economic recovery.



    Analysis
    Joe Lynam
    BBC News

    The Icelandic people were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. It looks as if they still couldn't stomach the idea of paying off the debts of privately owned banks - even if the revised deal was considerably more generous.

    The consequences of this referendum vote is that Iceland's years in the financial wilderness could be extended much further.

    Moody's and other ratings agencies look set to downgrade the country even further, making it prohibitively more expensive to borrow on the open markets.

    Iceland's bid to join the EU will be paused or even vetoed by Britain and the Netherlands. And the tiny Atlantic economy is facing legal action in the EFTA court which might force it to pay up sooner than planned and at a punitive interest rate.

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    A lot of British Councils had investments in Iceland which they lost. This was public money and put into Iceland to make a quick buck because of the high interest it promised. Many people were not amused when it came out that their money had been used in this way. Our Councils gambled and lost. I notice that the British want to treat this with kid gloves yet again.

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    Hye, UK and Netherlands ought to take over the assets of the banks that fail.

    Foisting those banks' debts onto the people of Iceland is not right.

    But THAT is the three card monty economics game being played all over the industrialized world isn't it?

    Capital keeps the profits when it makes them, and they socializes their losses.

    Blame bad governments for this, folks.

    Governments of and by and FOR the banks.
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