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    Letter by a Florida teacher............... A teacher speaks

    This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult
    students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who
    get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required)
    plus other federal grants to go to school?

    One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want
    me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she
    was getting housing from our housing department and she was gettin g
    PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left
    over.

    She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas
    to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check
    it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all
    sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I
    just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because
    she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she
    "loves HER country."

    I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and
    then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it
    doesn' t bother her, because that is what the money is there for!

    I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE
    a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while,
    I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a
    week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education.

    Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to
    sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough.

    Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German
    or any other language because of immigration. It was written by
    Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was
    written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even
    close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY.
    I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else.
    Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your
    taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other
    immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA !
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyn View Post
    Not too sure where to put this. Mods can move it to somewhere more appropriate, perhaps.


    Letter by a Florida teacher............... A teacher speaks

    This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult
    students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who
    get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required)
    plus other federal grants to go to school?

    One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want
    me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she
    was getting housing from our housing department and she was gettin g
    PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left
    over.

    She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas
    to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check
    it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all
    sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I
    just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because
    she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she
    "loves HER country."

    I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and
    then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it
    doesn' t bother her, because that is what the money is there for!

    I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE
    a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while,
    I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a
    week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education.

    Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to
    sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough.


    Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German
    or any other language because of immigration. It was written by
    Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was
    written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even
    close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY.
    I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else.
    Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your
    taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other
    immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA !
    Wow, sounds so much like the school I work at. And then during the high school graduation ceremony, the hispanic family behind us talked throughout the entire pledge to the flag!

    Anyone that goes to another country needs to be in that country because they want to be, not because they can get free education, or be treated differently because they are not citizens of that country.

    So many jobs are given to green card holders and yet there are U.S. citizens that can't get a job. True, I'm sure some of the jobs that the green card holders have might not be jobs that someone else would want, but it's still a job!

    And I really can't stand it when a family comes in to the school and the first thing they ask, in broken english is, "Do you speak Spanish?". I look them square in the eyes and say "NO". And then I just stand there and wait for them to try and continue a conversation in English or have them ask me to get a translator. Then I take my sweet time in getting someone to translate for them!

    Oh jeez, I'm ranting because it really irritates the sh*t out of me when I read crap like this!!!!
    “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” ~ Jimi Hendrix
    "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Welcome to the "new" (and so called better) America.

    The US is at a crossroads; we can continue to delude ourselves with "a nation of immigrants" and the melting pot crap while we ignore the negative aspects of unregulated immigration/massive illegal immigration and eventually end up like a gigantic Bosnia where everyone is spilt up into little nations based on ethnicity or we can say "NO MAS" and shut down the borders and reduce immigration to less then 25,000 per year and prospective immigrants must pass an English competency exam and have an/the equivalent of a associates degree so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy the same America that we enjoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF202 View Post
    Welcome to the "new" (and so called better) America.

    The US is at a crossroads; we can continue to delude ourselves with "a nation of immigrants" and the melting pot crap while we ignore the negative aspects of unregulated immigration/massive illegal immigration and eventually end up like a gigantic Bosnia where everyone is spilt up into little nations based on ethnicity or we can say "NO MAS" and shut down the borders and reduce immigration to less then 25,000 per year and prospective immigrants must pass an English competency exam and have an/the equivalent of a associates degree so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy the same America that we enjoyed.
    I take the third option: allow massive immigration, but don't give benefits to non-citizens or force us to go bilingual, and enjoy the positive aspects of being "a nation of immigrants." Such as having positive population growth, and therefore not facing the prospect of an aging population, like virtually every other advanced democracy. And good food. And better soccer players.
    I enjoy being wrong too much to change my mind.

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    I am shocked! Shocked and apalled. How can you be so cruel and heartless as to deny entitlements to "migrant" workers. They have a right to education and health care. Afterall, they clean your toilets, care for your kids, and do all sorts of menial jobs that Americans don't want to do. The least we can do is provide them with driver's licenses, free health care, adequate housing, education in their native language, and respect their culture by adopting ourselves to them.




































































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    You did a great job Gunnut! You actually had me going until I read the last line ... my blood pressure went up quite a bit.

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    The US is at a crossroads; we can continue to delude ourselves with "a nation of immigrants" and the melting pot crap while we ignore the negative aspects of unregulated immigration/massive illegal immigration and eventually end up like a gigantic Bosnia where everyone is spilt up into little nations based on ethnicity or we can say "NO MAS" and shut down the borders and reduce immigration to less then 25,000 per year and prospective immigrants must pass an English competency exam and have an/the equivalent of a associates degree so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy the same America that we enjoyed.
    Forget it, seriously. The oligarchy has decided that open borders to unlimited illegals is best for the American public.

    Anything else is racist or silly - regardless a pro-amnesty candidate will win this year despite the population being against it.

    The oligarchy knows best, so forget cutting back on illegals. Both parties are in league on this issue.

    It is a dead issue.
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    From Snopes.com

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    Claim: Non-citizens don't pay taxes but are eligible for federal educational assistance programs not available to U.S. citizens.

    Status: False

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny W View Post
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    Claim: Non-citizens don't pay taxes but are eligible for federal educational assistance programs not available to U.S. citizens.

    Status: False
    Good call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
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    for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
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    And in a quarter of a century:



    Actually its already here; these 4 pictures were taken at Montebello High School in Montebello, California on March 27th 2006 also known as "Black Monday" when 100,000+ Los Angeles area school kids of Hispanic descent walked out of their classes and led marches and protests against the federal government and the rule of law.






    The 2006 "immigration reform" protests were nothing less then a revolution against the US government.

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    See how free this country really is? Public school students are allowed to protest against the government that provides them education. I hope they keep boycotting school. We don't need more educated people competing with me for a job. I need people to flip my burger and mow my lawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny W View Post
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    Claim: Non-citizens don't pay taxes but are eligible for federal educational assistance programs not available to U.S. citizens.

    Status: False
    GREAT CALL

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