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    Quote Originally Posted by barrowaj
    I'm not advocating getting rid of lawyers, just changing the system so it works more like a market, and less like winning the lottery. Why should you and I have to pay for this sleazy lying lawyer's car collection?
    At least one should be allowed to legally abuse a lawyer, outside a court house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrowaj
    Mutilators? What? The patients *elected* to go for the surgery, and were explained the risks. Its not like the plastic surgeons forced the surgery on anyone. The reason why we are now using silicone again is because it is safe.

    I'm not advocating getting rid of lawyers, just changing the system so it works more like a market, and less like winning the lottery. Why should you and I have to pay for this sleazy lying lawyer's car collection?
    The silicone is now safe because the lawyers jacked them up about it, otherwise, it wouldn't be. Lawyers admit into evidence documentation, that has to be authenticated, and approved by the Judge, before the jury can see the evidence, i.e., photographs, medical records, etc. I am also sure that the meeting between the patient and doctor, prior to surgery, did not offer the fact that the silicone had proved defective in some cases, and pictures to show an unsuccessful surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    The silicone is now safe because the lawyers jacked them up about it, otherwise, it wouldn't be. Lawyers admit into evidence documentation, that has to be authenticated, and approved by the Judge, before the jury can see the evidence, i.e., photographs, medical records, etc. I am also sure that the meeting between the patient and doctor, prior to surgery, did not offer the fact that the silicone had proved defective in some cases, and pictures to show an unsuccessful surgery.
    Doctors do not have to show pictures of defective cases, the patients are told of risks and sideaffects. I this is the yard stick, then compare this to cardiac by-pass surguries. Doctors always give a risk percentage and success rate, but this does not seem to deter patients from undergoing the surgury. Even if the patient dies after the surgury, would it be justified to blame the doctors (considering there was no negligence).
    It is litigious attitude of people that has driven up the price of medical care.
    It would be very difficult to treat patients if a disclaimer document had to be read and signed by the patient every time he or she goes to a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree
    It would be very difficult to treat patients if a disclaimer document had to be read and signed by the patient every time he or she goes to a doctor.
    One can not do away with lawyers...for the simple fact that negligence does occur, on a regular basis.

    You know like the woman who went into surgery to have a lump removed from her breast only to wake up to find she had a complete mastectomy of both breasts removed. And the man who went in to have prostate surgery, and woke up to find his gallbladder had been removed instead. These are irreversible damages that can not be corrected, but the victim has to live with for a lifetime.

    If lawyers and victims aren't able to bring them to justice and penalize them in a civil court, then do we prosecute the doctors in a criminal court and give them time in jail? Shouldn't the doctors be responsible for their negligence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    Shouldn't the doctors be responsible for their negligence?
    Yes they should be. For the type of example you have given, but not for, cosmetic procedures that one does out of vanity and not for health reasons.

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    Lemontree, I have to agree. Furthermore, it disgusts me when people think they should sue a doctor for something that didn't work out, completely absolving themselves of the fact that they had lead a horrible lifestyle, downing smoking and drinking and overeating, as if their present condition was entirely the doctor's fault.

    Negligence, yes, that ought to be prosecuted. However, the current "sue" culture in our country is more than for negligence on the doctor or whoever's part. Witness that 1 million dollar suit against McDonalds for a lady burning her lip or tongue for drinking coffee that was "too hot." Look at people who sue McDonalds because "they didn't know it would make them overweight." It's driven by greed and a disgusting unwillingness on the part of many who sue to take responsibility and that's why I fully support tort reform that President Bush speaks of. There are many who have a legitimate reason to sue but those who are just out to make money give a bad name to them unfortunately.
    Am out of town for a while and then have tons of work coming up at school. Will be back once that's all done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahul
    Witness that 1 million dollar suit against McDonalds for a lady burning her lip or tongue for drinking coffee that was "too hot." Look at people who sue McDonalds because "they didn't know it would make them overweight." It's driven by greed and a disgusting unwillingness on the part of many who sue to take responsibility and that's why I fully support tort reform that President Bush speaks of. There are many who have a legitimate reason to sue but those who are just out to make money give a bad name to them unfortunately.
    Those cases should have been dismissed with a Motion For Summary Judgement by the presiding Judge at the first scheduled court appearance, as they were frivolous.

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    Then we are in agreement.
    Am out of town for a while and then have tons of work coming up at school. Will be back once that's all done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahul
    Then we are in agreement.
    My point is that it is sad when the US Government has to get involved with tort reform because the Judges' aren't doing their jobs correctly, and the lawyers take the heat for it.

    All I'm saying is the Justice System is like a football field, and if the lawyer goes out of bounds, it is up to the Judge (referee) to make that call. If the Judge doesn't, the lawyer with the ball is still in play.

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