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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    That's right. Michael Jackson said it best: we are the world.
    He also said "we are the children"
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Personall I don't care for these sports. I only care about hockey, which is international, but not popular enough to cause riots and wars.
    But in the old days, you could count on a good fight on the ice.

    Or as we use to say "I went to the fights last night. And a hockey match broke out"
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    But in the old days, you could count on a good fight on the ice.

    Or as we use to say "I went to the fights last night. And a hockey match broke out"
    Those were the days...

    That's another thing I like about hockey. Let's get the fight out of our system in plain view. Let's get it on. None of those cheap shots we see in basketball or soccer. Ever noticed in soccer, someone gets slide-tackled, falls down, writhe in agonizing pain, ref looks at it, shows a yellow/red card, the trainer comes out, uses some magic spray, and the guy jumps up ready for the 2nd half of the match. That's just so cheap. Guys get called for diving for something like that in hockey. No wusses allowed.
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    [QUOTE=gunnut;428538]Those were the days...

    Ever noticed in soccer, someone gets slide-tackled, falls down, writhe in agonizing pain, ref looks at it, shows a yellow/red card, the trainer comes out, uses some magic spray, and the guy jumps up ready for the 2nd half of the match. That's just so cheap. Guys get called for diving for something like that in hockey. No wusses allowed.


    Quite right. Footballers or as I call them 'footballists' (it seems to annoy them) are overpaid, undertalented and the role models for countless yobs and oiks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Those were the days...

    That's another thing I like about hockey. Let's get the fight out of our system in plain view. Let's get it on. None of those cheap shots we see in basketball or soccer. Ever noticed in soccer, someone gets slide-tackled, falls down, writhe in agonizing pain, ref looks at it, shows a yellow/red card, the trainer comes out, uses some magic spray, and the guy jumps up ready for the 2nd half of the match. That's just so cheap. Guys get called for diving for something like that in hockey. No wusses allowed.
    The refs do their best. Diving is definitely frowned upon. But some of those Brazilians...dang. All I can say is, they are true artists. Thespians of the soccer field. Luckily, in my school's conference, all the Brazilians are on our team. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral View Post
    The refs do their best. Diving is definitely frowned upon. But some of those Brazilians...dang. All I can say is, they are true artists. Thespians of the soccer field. Luckily, in my school's conference, all the Brazilians are on our team. )
    Footballers are overpaid drama queens who behave like toddlers on the field (fall over, won't get up, scream their heads off. Then when distracted by, say the ball coming near them, play on like nothing happened). The refs, in my opinion, don't enforce the laws properly. If you go down in the box and the pentalty is not given you should receive a yellow card.

    Look at the last world cup - FIFA wanted the rules enforced more strongly and initially most matches had a few sendings off. Noticeably one of the world's premier divers, Arren Robben, managed to stay on his feet all the way through the Italy v Holland match that saw so many cards ..

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    Holland vs Portugal you mean? That was bad. 16 yellow cards, four red, the pitch felt palpably empty by the end.

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    Portugese are the masters of the dive - Cristiano Ronaldo sickens me on so many levels, though I can't pretend it wasn't fun to hear our hooligan-infected neighbours bellow at the heavens when he got Rooney sent off .

    Then the balloon pops when I remember we didn't even qualify :( !
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    The chicoms are between a rock and a hard place here. If they come down hard a foreign protesters during the Olympics, they risk losing international standing and perhaps trade deals. If they let them happen, they risk their people wanting the same right to protest that foreigners have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post

    "Chinese law allows the public, including overseas citizens, to demonstrate in a legal way," Liu told a press conference.
    Which would be. . ?

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    Friends, we will be standing in solidarity with our friendly Chinese brethren, Chinese Nationalists, Independent Seperatists, freedom fighters, organisers, Christian & other imperiled missioners, POWs/MIAs & citizens of the Sovereign State of Tibet imprisoned behind the bamboo curtain, in making a statement of dissent by boycotting this mockery of humanity; the so-called "olympics" in Beijing 2008.

    Please join in encouraging non-patronage of the Red scourge on the earth, & join in praying that the stain of Communism might be lifted from the great and beautiful land of China.
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    ryan bailey,

    unfortunately in that group the Chinese Nationalists and the freedom fighters and the Independent Seperatists would probably tear into each other; then they would tear into the citizens of the Sovereign State of Tibet, while the christian missionaries would probably get into trouble with the said citizens of Tibet...

    by the way, communism is pretty much dead. deng xiaoping shot it several times with a shotgun. these days china is just an authoritarian state which pretends to have some "chinese style socialism", which is basically a very corrupt, very inefficient free market economy.
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    I just don't understand this "free tibet" stuff so enamoured by Hollywood elites. On the one hand, they fear Bush and his openly religious stand, claiming Bush is trying to turn this country into a theocracy; on the other hand they support Tibet, which IS a religious theocracy, with very low standards of living in one of the most impoverished places on earth.

    So what they're saying is theocracy is OK as long as it's not in this country, and OK if it's not christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuttlecat View Post
    Which would be. . ?
    Which would be that legal demonstration is allowed in a designated area in a mountain valley in Tibet for supporting Free Tibet movement.

    Dalai Lama never built road to that mountain valley (in fact, he didn’t build much road anywhere in Tibet). But you can parachute to that area for your legal demonstration.

    How to come out from there is your own business. But if you are really devoted to support Free Tibet movement, I am sure that you wouldn’t mind to stay in that mountain valley forever for the good cause.

    If you plan to come to China or Tibet for demonstration, please book your flight ticket right now because the flight ticket around the time of Beijing 2008 Olympic is going to sell out very fast.

    If you go to China, carry out demonstrations and come out alive, please share your experience to us all.
    Last edited by Zeng; 29 Nov 07, at 05:11.
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    Yes, I agree with you guys. Beijing Olympics should be boycotted by you guys.

    ExNavyAmerican, troung and some other guys are advocating the boycotting. I think that you guys at least should do some real things about it yourselfer.

    Otherwise, you guys are just too hypocritical to advocating the boycotting but not doing anything substantial except for making noises here in English, which Chinese people wouldn’t even read and understand.

    ExNavyAmerican Sir, you are in China. You should go to do protests starting from tomorrow with your great theory.

    Please don’t forget your great theory that China signaled the Myanmar monks to do demonstrations and then signaled the Myanmar junta to shoot them. Truly great innovative theory. I was very much impressed with it and made some good suggestions for you about how to use your theory to save the world. But unfortunately, you seem forgot your great theory. Please don’t waste your chance to save the world. I put that link here to remind you.

    http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/sou...l-scout-8.html

    You should also go to do something about those American volunteers who are helping to prepare and organize the Beijing 2008 Olympics in China. Some of them may be democrats. You said that you want to shoot them in the head between their eyes.

    I think that President Bush and other ex US Presidents are also invited to visit Beijing during 2008 Olympic game. May be you have some good plan for dealing with their visits.

    I agree with you that Tibet should be free. The Tibet free movement needs lot of money to decorate Dalai Lama’s palace in India. To show that you are really supporting their free movement, you should at least donate half of your money to them. Otherwise, you are really not doing anything for them.


    troung Sir, you are in America. You should go to do protests and request American Olympic Committee boycotting the Beijing Olympics.

    You should go to do protests to ABC for their paying 1.67 billion dollar to broadcast the Beijing Olympics. They are really evil and even planned to broadcast the Beijing 2008 Olympics using High Definition in ENA called “Profound” un-breathable air and through the smog. You should request them stop doing the broadcast or at least only broadcast it in low resolution black and white fashion.

    You should go to do protests and request American government declaring Eastern Turkistan to be an Independent state.

    If they don’t accept your requests, please do Hunger Strike in front of American Olympic Committee, ABC headquarter and Whitehouse.

    Please don’t stop Hunger Strike until they accept your requests.


    Other people who support boycotting Beijing Olympics should also go to do protest and Hunger Strike to your country’s Olympic Committees and governments. Doing protest and Hunger Strike in front of Chinese embassy is also a good idea.


    The key to the success is that you don’t stop Hunger Strike until they accept your requests.


    troung Sir, one more thing. ExNavyAmerican has worked for America’s enemy, the evil Communist China for 3 long years and is still working there.

    You should report to some authority to investigate why he is so dedicated even like to get asthma or tuberculosis to work for the evil Communist China.

    Why he didn’t work for the great democratic America for the last 3 years? Why he go to help America’s enemy, the evil communist China? Indeed suspicious.


    Great works, guys, you got the real spirit of Confucius. He was a person who 知其不可而为之 (knows it is impossible and does it) for improving the society.


    Sarcasm aside, I agree with many of you that China does have lot of problems and they definite should make more effort for improvement.

    Thanks for the constructive critics for China. Personally, I support Beijing 2008 Olympics. It is a milestone in China's struggle to integrate into international community.

    You are all welcome to Beijing 2008 Olympics.
    Last edited by Zeng; 29 Nov 07, at 05:32.
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