yes. His buddy was shot dead next to him, another wounded in the same hole; he didn't pray - he grabbed the guy and got him out of there. The guy he saved stayed friends 'till the day he died and told the same story.Originally Posted by M21Sniper
People can hope a bullet doesn't hit them, or that the fourth impact of their vehicle in a bad accident doesn't kill them or their kids but that hope doesn't have to be directed at a deity. It can be just hope. Non-atheists may have trouble grasping this because their idea of hope may be so linked to belief in god that they perhaps cannot conceive of hope without that. The atheist is not hoping for divine intervention because he doesn't believe in it, but he still hopes to make it out alive.
Also, the arument that no scientific proof can explain the existence of the universe proves there is a god, a creator, is false logic. It is one of the fallacies taught in argumentation courses. We cannot assume that because we can't find an answer or explanation at this time that there is none is false. Holmes' quote about eliminating all wrong choices and settling for the one remaining doesn't apply to the argument concerning god's existence since not all possible explanations have been considered. Our understanding of the universe is limited by our knowledge, our ability to perceive with our senses. We now know the earth is round, but at one time, people could not weven conceive of such an idea.
Because we have difficulty conceiving an idea doesn't mean it is an impossibility. Some people can conceive of an infinite deity, but not an infinite universe. We can't know with absolute certainty that everything has a beginning and end. It seems that way, just as time seems linear, but we now know time isn't.
I'm not telling people who believe in god that they are wrong, but some of their arguments are weak and others are simply fallacious.
Right now, in this forum, it is highly unlikely (see? I can't even know that for sure) that anyone can prove or disprove the existence or non-existence of god.