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    Originally posted by bigross86
    Not many know about it, but there is a Jewish guerrila group that fights against Pal's illegally. Only difference between tham and the Hamas/Hizbollah/Al Aqsa Brigades/etc... is that the investigators investigate them in Hebrew instead of Arabic. Same punishments and penalties are given to Jews and Arab's alike.
    Is that the JDL your reffering to? I have bought stuff from Israel.

    Unlike that knife, and CD. There weren't any god damn, no good, POS thieves involved in that deal.

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    The WCOTC is a very different ballgame to the KKK. For one thing, Creators hate Christians. The Klan is very big on being Christian.

    That's not to say that the Klan and COTC don't put aside thier differences and work together (this is especially true of the IKA), but I can tell you arguments between Creators and Klansmen can get very bitter.

    Ok, so the Klan had a march. They burnt a cross. Whoop-de-frikking-doo. Did anyone die? Was anyone hospitalised? Was anyone deprived of their liberties? Ok some people might have been scared. Any more than when they have to walk past a gang of thugs hanging outside a shop? Any more than when they hear about another driveby?

    I'd be a lot less worried about the racism that makes people peacefully march in the streets, and more worried about the racism that causes rapes and murders.

    And what has the Klan got to do with your CD and knife missing?
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    Originally posted by Ziska
    The WCOTC is a very different ballgame to the KKK. For one thing, Creators hate Christians. The Klan is very big on being Christian.

    That's not to say that the Klan and COTC don't put aside thier differences and work together (this is especially true of the IKA), but I can tell you arguments between Creators and Klansmen can get very bitter.

    Ok, so the Klan had a march. They burnt a cross. Whoop-de-frikking-doo. Did anyone die? Was anyone hospitalised? Was anyone deprived of their liberties? Ok some people might have been scared. Any more than when they have to walk past a gang of thugs hanging outside a shop? Any more than when they hear about another driveby?

    I'd be a lot less worried about the racism that makes people peacefully march in the streets, and more worried about the racism that causes rapes and murders.

    And what has the Klan got to do with your CD and knife missing?
    Why are you being so pro-KKK?

    As far as the shit COTC had some involvment in. There was a lot of trouble caused. For starters. I almost died at the hands of some of thier flunkies.

    Let me repeat myself again...try not to jump to thier aid this time!

    1998: Some of thier members..or at least allies & supporters. Tried to kill me. and make some little white lies that almost had everyone pissed about thier rampage, go after some other people who had nothing to do with it.

    Resulted in an angry mob that combined, was about 150-200 People. They threw in the cards, avoided a huge fight. But a few one one one ass ebatings, they reiceved. Happened to put the exclamtion point on it, around here.

    Wasn't KKK that I know of. Really not focuing on them. But I know damn well COTC does violent stuff. As sure as I guched more blood, than a pro-wrestler. Once apon a time.

    AS for the Money order & CD. Both happened to just vanish in the mail. As I mentioned erarlier. The south in the KKK's playground. And they've aided COTC before. So they are at the top of my list of reasons why that Money Order vanished, and the CD I ordered also dissapeared in the mail.

    Now. You still going to defend these hate groups...basically saying that Neo-Nazi's shave thier heads. To keep thier hair from getting caught in thier Halo's?

    And KKK wear those outfits. To keep people from gawking at thier Angel wings?

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    Wow. I think it's time we all took a deep breath and calmed down and got back to the civilized discussions that this Forum is famous for.
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    I hate the COTC. If you haven't already noticed, I'm a strong Christian, and guess what... Creators hate Christianity.

    My point was that the KKK gets blamed for every bit of white racial violence. Look at this thread. It started out as the Klan murdering a marine, turned out it was the COTC.

    I would say that most of the violence is not organised. Most Klans do not communicate. I can well believe that you have clashed violently with white racists. I can well believe that some groups do march and burn crosses in public.

    However, are they part of a wider 'southern' conspiracy? No.

    Blaming all white racially motivated violence on one organisation is not only unfair, but dangerous, as it gives power to the violent groups who act independently.

    For example, you might say 'the Klan beat him up'. That would be like saying 'the Church opposed the Bill'. What Church? Where? Who?

    Just as not all Christians are in one organisation, and act with one mind, not all people who are in a Klan act in even a remotely unified manner.

    Hell, most of these groups are so paranoid (and who can blame them) that they will only let people they have known all their lives into their Dens.

    I'm not arguing that certain local organisations do not make trouble. I AM arguing that it is a localised phenomenon, and that the groups are acting independantly.

    On another note, Skinheads (as a group) originated in the London/Bristol wharves, where the workers shaved their heads for some reason. (I can't remember if it was for safety reasons or what). Anyway, the dockworkers started the tradition of shaved heads, tattoos, black boots, white/red laces, suspenders, and racial pride/violence. They brought it over to America during the depression.

    Klansmen wear the robes & hoods because they see themselves as monk/priest-like figures. They are the warrior-priests of White Christianity. The hoods come straight from European Catholicism, where priests would wear hoods while they were ostentasiously doing good works, so that no-one would know who they were.

    For humility's sake, you see. The idea was, they would do the good works (keeping the negroes in their place), but they wouldn't get a big head from all the people giving them kudos in the street.

    Trouble is, in most places it is illegal to wear a mask in a public place, so they just cut the face out of the hood. These days, they don't give a stuff if people recognise them.

    Ever see Godfather 1 or 2? (I forget which) There is a procession (some Roman Catholic parade), and priests are carrying something on their shoulders (like a casket). Interesting thing is, they are wearing black robes with peaked hoods exactly like Klan robes. Even today in Malta monks travel through the streets giving money to the poor wearing the big hooded masks.

    Cross-burning is a very old tradition hailing from Scotland. The idea is to show the light of Christ to the world. It also has the added effect of being really scary.

    I have no illusions about racial violence. I know how violent people can get about these issues. There is little so intense as racial pride/hatred. That said, it is NOT a one-way street. In Australia, Anglo's are assaulted by non-Anglo's all the time. We have gangs of Lebanese youths who like to gang-rape Anglo girls. They never pick on their own girls, just 'Aussie pigs'. My mate has been beaten up three times by Aborigonals because he refused to give them cigarettes (he doesn't smoke). My dad was nearly killed when a gang tried to carjack the vehicle he was in.

    I've never been to America, but from talking to friends, looking at crime figures, and reading the newssources it seems the same in America. People seem to think that only white people can be racist. But I tell you, every time a white girl is raped by non-whites, every time a white father is killed, another David Lane is born.

    If people really want to end racial strife, you have to hit racial inequality. I don't know how things are in the States, but over here Aborigonals are given tremendous lattitude because of the injustices (imagined or real) committed against their ancestors.

    All this does is promote intolerance. By reversing the situation (that is, giving Aborigonals a favoured status unnder the law, instead of whites) they have done nothing to solve the problem.

    Ask yourself just why these people hate other races. Many will have legitimate grievances, even if the way they go about things in reprehensible.
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    Actually, no. I've been saying from ther start that it was CTOC that killed a U.S. Marine. Not the KKK.

    I believe it was The Knights Of The Klu Klux Klan that help that rally, and that march here in Pa.


    Can imagine the COTC/KKK mix up, if the USMC had thier way.

    Typical Klan rally. Right up until some vengefull Marines open fire on from a nearby tree line. Then seeing it's the KKK. "Umm..thier not the ones". The ones I know, would shrug and start shooting again.

    And the Marines I know. Would do something like that if they could. In retaliation for one of thier own being murdered.

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    You know with all of the hate groups mentioned why cant we just teach them to hunt terriorists and drop them in the middle east? Then they will finally have to worry about someone not afraid of them as a group and will shot at them insted of listening to their racist ramblings on tv or the crimes they commit. Sheesh if they are such real men that they claim they are and not afraid of dieing, anything including burning crosses etc then send them over there and I ask you who really cares if they ever come back or die? Isint time we cleaned the gene pool of this trash? I for one wont miss any of the hate groups. (KKK, Natzi's, Panthers, gangs etc.) Please take them all!

    Think we could possibly all get along after that?...lol

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    I hate neo-Nazis. They give a truly bad name to Germans and people of German descent, such as myself. I cannot recall how many times I've been accused of being a Nazi, even though I've never supported their actions in a verbal or nonverbal way. I don't let it get to me though; the people who accuse me are just as ignorant as the neo-Nazis themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leibstandarte10
    I hate neo-Nazis. They give a truly bad name to Germans and people of German descent, such as myself. I cannot recall how many times I've been accused of being a Nazi, even though I've never supported their actions in a verbal or nonverbal way. I don't let it get to me though; the people who accuse me are just as ignorant as the neo-Nazis themselves.
    The majority of neo-nazi's today aren't even german. The same number or close to it also fit the "master race" criteria as well as hitler did.

    Just see them for what they are. The dregs of the third reich that's slowly but surely fading away as any empire that collapsed before it has done.

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    Stereotype imaging takes a long time to be wiped out.

    So, the Nazi typecasting of even the weakling of a German will always find takers.

    Sad.

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