Officer of Engineers

I think you have a lot to learn about nuclear weapons. The Hiroshima bomb destroyed only 10 square city blocks. Most of the dead came from the firestorm that was the result of wood and paper construction.

Concrete construction would've reduced the effects. Also, the kind of bombs you're talking about - the mulit-megaton city busters are no longer in existence. The largest size is 200kt and even that is a rarity.

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Chimo

Officer of Engineers

I refer to this again

Nuclear Warfare 102

Blademaster

Why are multi megaton bombs no longer in existence? What caused their demise?

Sumku

But it still was the Single thing that caused Japan's Surrender[and hadn't that happenned, I would have been writing in Japanse instead ].

Taken that now most of the Building are concrete based, meaning high survival. But concrete buildings with Lots of Glass. Guess what that glass will do those inside or those near by. Also, these sky scrappers use a lot of electrical appliances. Will these work post Nuke Strike - Post EM Pulse? No, they wont.And all of these electrical appliances is then Junk anyways.

Again how many people would be dead in first 24 hours after a single 50Kt were to detonate in the heart of Beijing?

Would 3-Gorges be able to withstand 10 50Kt? Guess Not

How many people down river would then be dead then as a result of flooding?. A lot Many

How many cities[read critical infrastructure in those cities down river] would still work? Very Very Very few

How many Civil defence personnels stationed in those cities survive to help Search and Rescue in their areas? Not sufficient enough to do any effective and meaningfull search and rescue on their own

Now we have a lot of Concrete Building. How many would be able to withstand a firestorm and shock waves, lets say in 10 miles area of Impact of a single 50 kt Nuke Bomb? Not many. Most will be gone.

As concerns Multi-Megaton, I guess instead of having 1 Megaton, its better to have 10 with 100kt each. Quality in Numbers.

True that only 10 City Blocks were destroyed in Hiroshima,but how many city blocks are there in Beijing. I previously stated about 25 50Kt per target[only if target is city and not Tactical or Military one]. Now to survive that Beijing and Peiking would require each having more than 250 City blocks. So how many City blocks are there in Beijing/Peiking?

Frankly speaking if India didnt had the capability to inflict some real and long term damage to China, then China would have wiped off India by now with those Megatons that it has. And India's capability would only improve over time.Chinese also know this anyways.

If 123 is signed it would happen fast, else may be over time, but capability would definitely improve.

Sumku

You got it wrong. Not that Megatons are history, OoE means that India does not yet have them. Frankly speaking I would want to go after them only once India has may be 1000 bombs each with 100Kt.

Officer of Engineers

Mainly because you don't get the bang for the buck. A lot of fissile materials consumed only literally to make hot air. While a big mushroom cloud is an impressive sight, it does little to actual damage on the ground from 10 miles out from ground zero.

As Stuart Slade pointed out. Drop a one megaton bomb on the centre of London. 80% of the city and 90% of the population will survive. So, it would be better to have 5 100kt bombs each aiming for an infrastructure collapse - water, electricity, sewer, hospital, and city hall.

Sumku

Rather try to deliver, 10-100Kt over a single City. Idea should be to evaporate the City. If technology permits, atleast 2 exploding slightly off ground, lets say 5 meters from the ground in a populated area.

And when aiming utilities,go very severe on Water, Food Silos, Fuel Dump, and Industrial areas and then follow 3 Golden Rules of War[Chinese Strategy]

Officer of Engineers

You're limited to a 10 mile radius no matter what.

EM pulse and the Sichuan earthquake produced the same results. Down powerlines meant no electricity whatsoever.

According to Stuart Slade, at least 90% of the population and 80% of the city.

Ok, are you talking 10 bombs of 50kt each? A single 50kt blast would do nothing.

General Cao had made a presentation that flood channels have already been dug in case of the damn failure. What that means I have no idea but at least it showed that they have thought about it.

There isn't any city down river. They've all been flooded.

Again, there are not any. They've been flooded because of the damn.

Again 10 miles is the magical number. A city is a lot bigger than 10 mile radius.

Requiring more delivery vehicles.

I really suggest you read over Stuart Slade's articles. You have so many misconceptions that I don't know where to begin.

Officer of Engineers

No, I do mean the multi-megaton bombs are history.

Blademaster

I thought you meant that 90% would survive and the 80% would survive as you said in your previous post.

Officer of Engineers

Actually I got it wrong. Here's what Stuart said in Nuke War 102

Blademaster

I really find that hard to believe that the Londoners would be better off after a nuclear attack than they were before the nuclear attack.

Radiation, hello anyone?

Officer of Engineers

Water. Clean water. In fact a good rain will reduce 95% of the radiation hazards.

What Stuart also mean is that there will be more for the survivors.

Officer of Engineers

Hitesh, here's what Stuart says in Nuke War 103

Blademaster

Why does Stuart Slade's article give me the warm and fuzzy feeling that nuclear weapons are not what it cracks up to be and certainly won't be a human race killer, hell even a nation killer.

As you say, if we can survive multiple 8.0 Richter scale earthquakes without destroying the economy, then by golly we can withstand a nuclear attack of 200 warheads.