Adux

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Deltacamelately

Sir,
I just saw something that spoke of an US insistance to India for escalating military threat against PRC in 1964. I have posted that in another Tibet thread. My querry is...after the stunning setback that the Indian Army suffered in the 1962 debacle, was it militarily realistic on the USs part to expect India successfully make such an aggressive military threat against China without unexpected fallouts? Could the Indian Army possibly be a state of readiness just 2years later to do so?

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Adux

Delta,

I dont think VK Krishna Menon allowed the IA to make any decisive support, Our biggest trump card was Indian Airforce, and the Chinese couldnt even mount proper air-challenge since their aircraft lacked range. We lost 1962 purely on politics.

Ray

I don't think the Indian govt can give any statement on the relations of two sovereign nations except show concern.

The govt spokesman could comment in a press conference on the issue in a diplomatic way at best.

I would not know for sure since I am not too aware of the parameters on which the External Affairs Ministry functions.

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kuku

relations between India and Nepal are on a improving path, well at least the Industrial relations especially the hydro power sector, dont know why Nepal will be so willing to screw that up, they stand to loose a lot of already planned investment.

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Adux

KUKU,

Who is the dominant power in Nepal now : Communist. That should answer your question.

Adu

kuku

could any aggression accomplished anything more than a empty success for some months?
is it even possible to sustain a military presence across the border, during the winter any sort of significant movement of men or material across would be restricted.

kuku

Oh yes there are no idiots greater than commie idiots.
Almost forgot that one.

Ray

Indian Army was undergoing a change at the moment in both mindset and technology (though nothing startlingly fabulous; in fact the FN rifle and 81mm Mortars elicited the excitement that the induction of F 16 might do today!!)

I believe the US was allowed free hand to plant surveillance devices in the Himalayas to monitor Tibet. The Khampas were also allowed to operate in Tibet or so the published material indicated.

As far as I know, the Indian Army was in no position to do anything worthwhile at the insistence of anybody.

I would be interested in knowing what you saw in the published arena. You could PM.

Ray

Ditto!

Herodotus

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No way,

They know their onions.

Communist or not, they know China's position in their destiny and they will ensure that they achieve it.

Tibet shall never be independent unless the US has some plans otherwise.

No other country can organise any freedom in Tibet.




So long as homo sapiens exist on this planet, the idea of being able to decide one's own destiny cannot be curbed.

China is an example itself. It has jettisoned Mao and Communism, no matter what homilies they spin to cover their blasphemy! They are opening up, albeit, slowly.

The internet is the Communists' biggest worry. It will corrupt the Chinese (looking at it from a Communist totalitarian mindset). Democracy will come.

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I am glad you are optimistic about the future General

All I will say is we will wait and see, if it happens great.

Herodotus

What's the source on this? Stratfor? How do we know this information is reliable? It could be, but verification would be nice.

So far we have: An anonymous source says an unspecified number of Chinese in plainsclothes and carrying small guns are in Nepal.

If I were in India's government I wouldn't say anything either; too speculative.

ravi12

The Stratfor was used only for the last comment i.e. regarding chinese "displeasure"(as if it is something new) over Tibet issue in US.

Rest are sources from the newspaper's sources. Generally I find this newspaper(times of india) is alright with facts thought its opinions and psy-ops suck most of the time.

That the chinese were in plain clothes itself indicates that it was behind the scenes deal from china itself. I dont think Indian govt will officially respond in the public, but concern yes, some behind the deals from India, no (the Indian govt is simply too timid for this kind of thinking.)

kuku

That is the part that the government is expected to respond to.

They should tell the Chinese to suck it up and follow what they tell the world "its a internal matter".

May be call up the Chinese embassy for a cup of tea at 3 am, or send some of them packing for spying. or even a bomb hoax every 3 hours.

This government is very slow and timid in responding to China thats for sure, i am still waiting for the Indian Army to send the Bill for the equipment the Chinese counterparts destroyed to the Chinese embassy.

Adux

Our government doesnt even act even when the chips are on our side. Whimps of the highest order, What do you expect they are all above 70.