Ray

That maybe what they have in plan, but I wonder if they will ever achieve it.

Though it may not have been achieved through democratic means as we understand it, the work done by Mao and the Communists to bring China to the status, level and power is indeed remarkable.

I wonder if anyone can ever oust the Communists from the pristine position they command in China and even if someone tries, it will only mean an armed struggle since the Communists will never yield to anyone!!

It is merely what I feel and I maybe wrong.

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"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

HAKUNA MATATA

Ray

[quote]Who is Tipten?

Are you suggesting that people cannot say what they want to just because it will defame?

I am not surprised at your mindset since it does prove the Readers Digest refrain of the type of brainwashing that is done in the Bamboo Curtain.

Obviously, you would not have heard of the concept of Freedom of Speech and Thought! Therefore, your not understanding of what the woman was doing is not anything that astounds!!

I think if she said "XX China", it sort of summed up whatever she wanted to say and feel. Maybe she was convinced that brevity is the soul of wit!!


So the international media as a group is operating against China and engineering the riots?

Serve the people with justice.

How come no other country expel journalist en mass when there is some problem?


Of course. The western media is CIA? It is only the Chinese state controlled media that is right!!

If China was really that free a country that serve the people, then it would not be afraid to allow independent newspapers and TV and radio stations as is done in every other country!! The Communists are afraid of the Truth and that is why everything is State controlled. Seizing and manipulating the mind of the People!!

When she knows that the media is non Chinese, what language do you expect her to speak? Esperanto?

What logic!!

Really?

Then what is the clamour for the Chinese to learn English? But again that would be a lie being perpetuated by the western media, right?

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Ray

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Ray

There are always people who want the limelight.

Which Panchen Lama who has spoken against the rioting?

Even Dalai Lama is against rioting!!

The Karmapa is in Sikkim.

There is a lot of mystery about his coming over to India from Tibet.

wangrui961

Ray , can you explain the images about "news" made by the west medias?
Why did they fabricate news?? Use fake pics , produce fake news. Find a image and then add some words , that's news?
It is CNN and BBC ,not tabloids, media freedom mean this? If it is , I won't want the so called freedom.

kuku

Is it so hard to explain?

The whole liberal media world is out to get you, everyone hates you, and is desperate to show you down.

They rather support the Tibetan movement who are killing innocent Chinese people, rather than the brave soldiers saving the Chinese people while being pelted by very dangerous projectiles of mineral matter and defending themselves with what they have.

Everyone is waiting for another massacre to get another season of bans out on you, canceling the Olympics and rewarding the Dalai Lama with honors for his peaceful thoughts and policies.


Just kidding, dont start buying on the prescription yet, the Tibetans have some soft power in this world, it is not only the Tanks and AK-47s that define power.

And if you blame others for a biased media, well let the others die of laughter first.
CNN has offered there views take them or leave them, its not like you care.

Other than news of riots in China targeting Chinese people and property, nothing will be reported, because you wont let anyone in, dont wait around for the world to criticize the Dalai Lama, that will never happen.

Oh ya almost forgot, welcome to the realm of riots and divisions, it was getting very lonely here.

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Ray

Fake?

Some of the media is claiming that those rioting are fake Tibetans!!

You are right, state controlled media is the safest to ensure total control of the mind!!

Good for you that you want to be robotic!!

Officer of Engineers

You mean like wearing human skins in rituals and serfdom?

Except Christianity overtook the Empire.

Then you know that it took an Islamic Army to finally evict the Romans from Judea.

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Blademaster

well, they can't even bow to the Dalai Lama or hold prayers or carry out worships in peace. I never heard of buddhist monks wearing human skins but I can see the serfdom reference. However, times have changed and Tibetans are not advocating for return to the days of serfdom or human sacrifice (which is a surprise and mystery to me)

Still you know what I am talking about. The suppression of the Jews and the displacement of the Jews. It is only testament to their enduring and bedrock faith in their culture and religion that kept the Jewish traditions alive and long enough to secure a homeland today that can safeguard the Jewish traditions and culture.

Officer of Engineers

In light of recent events, more facts have emerged. Not all Tibetan monks are united behind the Dali Lama. There are two main rival sects, losely termed the Yellow Hats (Dali Lama's clique) and the Black Hats (his rivals). The Black Hats are thriving in Tibet who has been hit by terrorist acts in recent years.

The Tibetans were allies to the Turks and Mongols. Contrary to their popular image, they have gone to war ... and practiced the same barbarism as their allies.

Thanks to the CCP. It was they who dragged Tibet kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. Compare that to the Tibetan enclave in India, what industry is prospering there?

Which is why I don't buy this cultural genocide bullcrap.

kuku

Free Tibet T shirts.

ha ha for the rest of the post.

With out the CCP they would have realized all of that, may be not to the degree the chinese could with all the money, now we would never know.

Officer of Engineers

Burma and Nepal would give a clue in that direction.

kuku

Dont know much about Burma, same "shoot the ones that dont agree, throw the rest of them in the big house for 10 days" government is in power.

As far as Nepal goes through all the troubles, one is happy to see that there are men who are proud of their nation, as indeed i am of India, throughout the troubles the hardships, we have a home, we have freedom, and we have our religion, our villages, lands of out ancestors where we still feel pride to be. You know Pride that bit#H.

Back in the village when we had nothing more than some land and some livestock in one of the harshest environments you could imagine, we always had pride in knowing that this is our land, even with the dreaded cast system.

Its not much in the SUV laden world that we have achieved, its enough though.

Blademaster

Perhaps it is a negotiating tactic to ensure that he does not start out weak.

How is it Tibetan administrators of Chinese rule any better than the Feudal elite? If Beijing says something, Tibetan administrators have no choice but to follow despite the wishes of the Tibetan people. Not a good argument.

Perhaps another negotiating tactic to ensure return of property lost by Tibetan people. It is just like the West Bank situation.

You are right. However keep in mind that he was forced into that situation by necessity. So he has to learn how to play with weak hands and win.


And the whole Catholic world would rise up against Stalin if Stalin tried to crush the Pope. It would bring back the Catholic wars and that is something Stalin could ill afford to do. Still, the Catholic Church thrived in the eastern countries even though Stalin had little regard for the Pope.

Guess what? Dalai Lama outlived both and is still alive and kicking.

Officer of Engineers

Tibet still have that today. Several years ago, several villagers went to take on poachers, even got official sanctions and weapons from the PLA and they went poacher hunting without even a CCP guide.

Granted that they've became corrupt themselves and started poaching. They were disbanded when they lost a heavy gun battle against the poachers. But this shows that the people at least had the land in their hearts in the 1st place.

You've got me thinking what Tibet would be like without China. At best, it would be a Nepal but more than likely, it would be a Cambodia, suffering the Khmer Rouge problem. If China had not gone in, she would've exported her revolution and judging from the excesses of the Tibetan Red Guards, it is not worth imagining. The Red Guards were checked by the PLA. I hate to imagine a Tibet with the Red Guards unchecked.