omon

should we worry about china? hell yea, its got almost entire world by the balls, even more us, look at stores, how many products are not made in china? not much, stop conteiner flow into us, and many buisnesses will die, china is smart, it opened its market(a trap), and us along with others fell into it, many buisneses will not be making money without cheap products for china, we depend on it now, a lot. our own consumer industrial base is disappearing, it used to be dependant on us, now thing other way around.
and china isn,t the only one, we got domestic cars made in mexico, electronics mostly made in china, malasia, singapor, phillipines.
and i didn,t even touch outsoursing,

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Tronic

stop container flow... and you mean to imply that Chinese economy will not be hit?

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omon

not as much, i never said stop container flow from china, i said stop it from coming to us. they got the goods, if it isn,t us, someone else will buy it.

Tronic

But then, you are cutting off all exports and imports from the US and the rest of the world? What exactly is the chance of that happening?

Those industries and goods need strong consumer markets to survive. The US is the strongest one there.

omon

not much, but they have the leverige,

Tronic

Sorry, are you talking about US-China here, or US-world? And what sort of leverage are you talking about, and with or against who? I am totally lost as to what you are trying to say.

omon

us is the biggest consumer, but isn,t the only one, plus china already accamulated lots of money, it isn,t nearly as poor as it was 10 years ago, it is now pbly biggest maunfacturer of consumer, and not only consumer products, world wide, if it looses us market, it will suffer blow, but not as much as us will.

Tronic

And US is far more wealthy then China; China will be the harder hit as it looses its main export market; secondly, the US can also go to other countries or even bring some of their own industries home, creating more jobs for Americans. And to point out, the US is actually running in a trade defecit with China.

omon

i,d really like for that to happen,

but china is supplying us things that we need everyday, and lots of buisneses big and small rely on it. if china stops selling, to us, there will be a huge hit on us, walmart,...and other marts, home depot..ect, all sell at least half or more of the products made in china, producgts that aren,t made in us. take those away, and i don,t think all those marts, and depos, will do as good, if at all, and so will or wont stock market, thus economy.
remember, it wasn,t military actions, that ruined ussr, economy did.

but i konw chances of that slim, but you don,t always need military to ruin a country. i think that economy, and dependence of the us and world on china is its deadliest weapon, and sad to say we handed it to china ourselves.
that is my view on it anyway.

wangrui961

US is our biggest customer,no one would replace US.
But chinese market is growing fast ,we can buy "made in china" too.
i've got a mobile with mp4,mp3,hand write,2billion pixes camera,it sells for 988 yuan,130 US dollars.I can afford this.I also have a dell note book made in Xiamen Fujian province, insprion 1520,for 8999 yuan ,much more expensive than it's price in hongkong and US.many china products sells more expensive in mainland(especially Lenovo) ,but still many guys would buy them.
A santana car here is 60000 yuan ,many of us can afford this.have a look at pics and videos about china you'll find many beautiful cars,luxury cars included.
20% Chinese live comfortble while 80% is not rich.but how many is 20% of chinese? 2.5 billion,a huge market.
Even a farmer may have two mobiles,it's not strange.

At last ,you don't need to worry about"made in china". we provide products,you give dollars,what's the contradictions?

should you **** the products only because they were made in china?

All the world is using US products too . windows,office ,IE,GPS,IBM,Dell,HP,Apple,Hollywood movies,KFC,McDonald's,Cocacola,Pepsi.....and so on
Should chinese **** these? No ,they are welcome and popular.

omon

it is all known to me, i remember times when products made in china, were very well made, thou it was very long ago, and those product were sold in ussr, i do know about chinise copies of mb, town car,..ect.
but the truth is, products,(most) that are sold in us are cheap quality, but so is the price, so you can,t really expect a 1$ to prform as 10$ item, the more expencive one is made in us, cheap one in china, but that is why it is 1$ and made in china, cuz we bought it for that reason. and you make it exacly that, cheap fast and a lot.
i have chinise sks from 1953, it is very well made, perfect finish, wood stock looked like crap, so i changed it, but rifle it self is great, whenever someone tells me chinise sks, are crap, i laugh.
oh, i do have lenovo ibm laptop, i had old ibm before, new one works just as good as old one did, but there is a difference between pre china ibm, and after, old one looked like it had rubber body(it wasn,t entierly rubber, just top coat), cracks were none excistant, new one has gaps, and isn,t as solid as the old one was. but as long as it works, i really don,t care much.

Tronic

Only China can produce those products? And yes, American economy will be hit but not as badly as the Chinese market, contrary to what you are stating. America will more then survive, however it will slow down, if not stop, China's economic growth. China is more dependent on the US market then US is on China.

wangrui961

Maybe you can find someone else to provide these products in low price.
Southeast Asia?India?Or some Middleeast countries?

bolo121

China depends heavily on US trade and so needs a strong US economy.
Besides with most of its forex surplus still denominated in dollars a downturn for the US and the cosequent reduction in dollar value would hurt.

As to america bringing back its factories back, that will only be possible once americans understand the sad fact that labourers have to live like labourers and not expect middle class lifestyle (car, house etc). Only then will they be cost effective.

wangrui961

we should wait for ten years and see the results.
china depends on no one.
we can buy our products.
we have largest market.
thank you for your concern.
and do you consume your softwares ? you depend on US heavily.