China vis-à-vis Taiwan - Page 6

Taihang · 10-30-2007, 18:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I've take it that you've never travelled 100 miles of water before. Your adrenaline maybe pumping in the 1st 15min to even half hour but it won't be pumping an hour into it and certainly not 5 hours into the trip (ie, your ships have to get out of port to organize themselves before embarking on the assault).

Either way, until your troops are put to sea in a training exercise, you won't know what percentage of your troops would be affected by sea sickness, drugs, or just plain confusion ... and it would be a poor commander who finds out during an actual operation.

Yes I did travel more than 100 miles of waters under a not very nice weather condition. Individuals have different susceptability to motion sickness.

You must be extremely cool if your adrenaline only works for 15 to 30 min on a boat ride to invade Taiwan.

**Officer of Engineers** · 10-30-2007, 18:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Taihang

Yes I did travel more than 100 miles of waters under a not very nice weather condition. Individuals have different susceptability to motion sickness.

And you're going to find out on day 1 of the invasion?

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Originally Posted by Taihang

You must be extremely cool if your adrenaline only works for 15 to 30 min on a boat ride to invade Taiwan.

The actual fight itself will drain everything you've got and then some. The wait, however, will bore you out of your skull.

tony6623 · 11-12-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

And you're going to find out on day 1 of the invasion?

The actual fight itself will drain everything you've got and then some. The wait, however, will bore you out of your skull.

extremely terribly!

In Iraq,many people are dead in the way what you said.Most of them are iraqi,and some are US soilders. We often saw that kind of situation by TV.

maybe most of people in the world hope the war in iraq will be over as soon as quickly.

Feanor · 11-12-2007, 21:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tony6623

extremely terribly!

In Iraq,many people are dead in the way what you said.Most of them are iraqi,and some are US soilders. We often saw that kind of situation by TV.

maybe most of people in the world hope the war in iraq will be over as soon as quickly.

Objection - relevance.

akinkhoo · 11-18-2007, 04:31 AM

instead of thinking if china can win taiwan.
can they do enough damage to make any attempt to change the status quo too costly?

gunnut · 11-18-2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tony6623

extremely terribly!

In Iraq,many people are dead in the way what you said.Most of them are iraqi,and some are US soilders. We often saw that kind of situation by TV.

maybe most of people in the world hope the war in iraq will be over as soon as quickly.

What?

Inst · 11-23-2007, 03:12 AM

Weren't you guys discussing the commando decapitation option in CDF? How did that turn out? That's what sucks about CDF; until recently the bull content, I'm a part of that, was quite low. But the content of opinions was also quite low; most of it was photographs and news articles.

By the way, if I recall correctly, about 90 percent of Taiwanese consider themselves to be Taiwanese. About 40 to 50 percent of Taiwanese consider themselves to be Chinese. There's an overlap of about 40 percent, and then there's what I imagine to be the 12 percent of the population that's composed of deep-Blue diehards.

OoE, sir, what do you think is the meaning of the SRBMs pointed at Taiwan? Between this and the saber-rattling, I imagined that was just to affect domestic politics; to scare the Taiwanese out of independence. I may not be able to win, but you'll have to lose something in return. But the result of trying to influence politics in 96 was not in China's favor. So is this instead propaganda for the home-front?

Inst · 11-24-2007, 07:14 AM

Didn't I just try to delete the above post?

glyn · 11-24-2007, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Inst

Didn't I just try to delete the above post?

Somethings up. I have never been able to delete my posts either.

MarquezRazor · 11-24-2007, 09:20 AM

1.Not all motion sickness preventing drugs are sedating,many are but not all.
2.Drugs delivered through transdermal patches have further decreased sedative effects but good effect against motion sickness.
3.Labyrynthine sedative[will sedate the balancing organ of your body] does not necessarily mean its a sedative in general.
4.There are certain anti-motion sickness drugs which are indicated particularly in those situations where alertness is required.
5.Anti-motion sickness drugs are not 100% fool proof.Particularly when travelling hundreds of miles over choppy waters is concerned.

gunnut · 11-24-2007, 18:03 PM

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Originally Posted by glyn

Somethings up. I have never been able to delete my posts either.

That's odd. I'm sure I have deleted my posts before.

qqpasswang · 01-02-2008, 11:16 AM

If the Americans and Japan join in, maybe Chian,maybe no-one wins.

If they don't, the 5-stars flag will cover Taiwan.

Ray · 01-02-2008, 13:42 PM

Can Taiwan really fight China?

**Officer of Engineers** · 01-02-2008, 14:09 PM

Sir,

The numbers are on the Taiwanese side. Naval and air wise, both sides are about equal in committable numbers but when it comes to land forces, the Taiwanese holds an insurmountable edge. A three to one committable active force advantage. Once you add in the reserves, that becomes 10 to one. And that is before deciding on the defensive terrain advantages Taiwan enjoys.

gunnut · 01-02-2008, 18:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Sir,

The numbers are on the Taiwanese side. Naval and air wise, both sides are about equal in committable numbers but when it comes to land forces, the Taiwanese holds an insurmountable edge. A three to one committable active force advantage. Once you add in the reserves, that becomes 10 to one. And that is before deciding on the defensive terrain advantages Taiwan enjoys.

Sir, I have a question. How about the willingness to fight? Will ROC military put up a meaninful struggle should China invade? What if the military puts up a token fight and then gives up like during the civil war in 1949? Will it happen? Can it happen?

11-24-2007, 09:20 AM	#85 (permalink)
MarquezRazor *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-03-06 Posts: 1,269	1.Not all motion sickness preventing drugs are sedating,many are but not all. 2.Drugs delivered through transdermal patches have further decreased sedative effects but good effect against motion sickness. 3.Labyrynthine sedative[will sedate the balancing organ of your body] does not necessarily mean its a sedative in general. 4.There are certain anti-motion sickness drugs which are indicated particularly in those situations where alertness is required. 5.Anti-motion sickness drugs are not 100% fool proof.Particularly when travelling hundreds of miles over choppy waters is concerned. Last edited by MarquezRazor : 11-24-2007 at 09:26 AM.

01-02-2008, 11:16 AM	#87 (permalink)
qqpasswang New Member Join Date: 01-02-08 Location: P.R.China Posts: 3 Country:	If the Americans and Japan join in, maybe Chian,maybe no-one wins. If they don't, the 5-stars flag will cover Taiwan. __________________ 干掉熊猫，我就是国宝！

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 26,144 Country:	Can Taiwan really fight China? __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA

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akinkhoo Regular Join Date: 10-30-07 Posts: 27 Country:	instead of thinking if china can win taiwan. can they do enough damage to make any attempt to change the status quo too costly?

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Inst Patron Join Date: 12-17-06 Posts: 197	Weren't you guys discussing the commando decapitation option in CDF? How did that turn out? That's what sucks about CDF; until recently the bull content, I'm a part of that, was quite low. But the content of opinions was also quite low; most of it was photographs and news articles. By the way, if I recall correctly, about 90 percent of Taiwanese consider themselves to be Taiwanese. About 40 to 50 percent of Taiwanese consider themselves to be Chinese. There's an overlap of about 40 percent, and then there's what I imagine to be the 12 percent of the population that's composed of deep-Blue diehards. OoE, sir, what do you think is the meaning of the SRBMs pointed at Taiwan? Between this and the saber-rattling, I imagined that was just to affect domestic politics; to scare the Taiwanese out of independence. I may not be able to win, but you'll have to lose something in return. But the result of trying to influence politics in 96 was not in China's favor. So is this instead propaganda for the home-front?

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Inst Patron Join Date: 12-17-06 Posts: 197	Didn't I just try to delete the above post?

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Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	Sir, The numbers are on the Taiwanese side. Naval and air wise, both sides are about equal in committable numbers but when it comes to land forces, the Taiwanese holds an insurmountable edge. A three to one committable active force advantage. Once you add in the reserves, that becomes 10 to one. And that is before deciding on the defensive terrain advantages Taiwan enjoys.

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