Officer of Engineers

The JSMDF met and chased off protestors from Hong Kong to the Daiyous. They've also detected and harrased a Chinese sub back to Chinese waters - twice.

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gunnut

No way!!!

I gotta remember this one for future reference when I hear someone says "free Tibet."

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Feanor

Which of the two, PLA or RoCA, have better trained, prepared, and more dedicated, officer corps; in your opinion.

You mentioned the possibility of the RoCA collapsing if they lost the battle on the beaches, due to poor morale and lack of talented generals. I'm thinking that since on the tactical level it's the officers that have to keep their units in shape as cohesive fighting forces, which side has better officers.

HKDan

The quality of ROCA leadership, especially the NCOs has often been called into question by various commentators.

gunnut

But all these questions about fighting abilities are moot if the PLA can't land enough troops and sustain them.

New Zealand doesn't have an airforce. But who has the ability to even threaten New Zealand from the air?

PLA needs to do these things before ROCA's fighting abilities even comes to the table:
1. have enough transports
2. protect those transports
3. sustain the landing once troops land
4. mass enough troops for a break out
5. break ROCA morale

PLA hasn't even done 1 yet, let alone 5. And that's assuming the US and Japan don't interfere with the landing operation.

Ray

Colonel,

With due regards to your opinion, Chinese Communists were no better than making the people slaves! The diktat of the State was supreme over the individual and that is slavery and psychological torture and a total insult to being a human.

Therefore, Communism was no better than feudalism of Tibet. At least, religion brought solace to the state of the individual which Communism did not give.

Did the Tibetan religion beliefs kill anyone for total obedience? No.

But Chinese Communism did.

Therefore, the idea that the Chinese Communist saved Tibet is misplaced.

Further, let the Tibetans judge themselves and not us as to what is good for them!

The Tibetans in exile are no pansies or the calm chaps that the Buddhist are supposed to be.

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Ray

The Dalai Lama does not have a Rolls in Dharmsala.


What is go great about a Rolex watch?

Obviously, one can't expect him to wear an hourglass around his neck!

I do not, however, support insurrection or revolutions etc.

In so far as Tibet and China is concerned, it is a matter between these two entities.

At the same time, I don't think that the Chinese Communists are paragon of virtues. They are changing the demographic pattern of all areas of the minorities like Xinjiang, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, wherein they are suppressing the ethnicity of the region and undertaking demographic imperialism!

Ray

Tibet is as oppressive a theocracy as the Bible thumping southern US.

Are the southerners, who Bible thump, oppressive?

If not, the Tibet also does not!

Inst

The Chinese argument was that the Tibetan used to own serfs. You could see that as a parallel to that the American South used to own slaves.

A Rolex is generally a status-symbol; however, it's a minimal beacon of luxury. There are far more expensive watches, such as a Phillipe Patek, marketed to more upscale demographics.

Blademaster

That would be something if he used the money given by the Tibetan people to buy those things but another thing to ride in a Rolls Royce or wear a Rolex if those things were freely given by well wishers.

After all, the Catholic Pope has a Ferrari. Does that mean he is trodding on the backs of the masses of people today?

Officer of Engineers

Sir,

The GPCR did more damage than the Dali Lama could ever do. There are times when the CCP is the worst thing that ever happened to Tibet. None of it is justified nor am I touting its virtues. My point, however, that there is bad blood between the Dali Lama and the CCP but not all of it is the CCP's fault.

The point is in reference to what the Americans want to see and does not want to see. The idea of a poor Buddist Monk is what they want to see and ignore the rest.

Officer of Engineers

The PLA hands down. Their current officer corps is the result of the 1st 1979 Sino-VN War and the embarrassment that it caused. They're determined not to let that happen again.

The RoCA also have the better tactical advantage. They don't have to move. They just have to man their post and shoot and kill everything in front of them..

Ray

Colonel,

Those days when the religious order and that too the Head was a poor person is over.

See the Pope, the Archbishops, the Imams, the Hindu Godmen, etc. They all live in the lap of luxury but spout pious platitudes.

Religion is no longer about God, it is big business. See the TV preachers of all religions and their business gimmicks to sell their programmes.

As far as the Buddhists go, they are the only ones who do not forcefully project their religion and instead co exist!

Officer of Engineers

Too true, Sir. Way too true.

Blademaster

Sir, we are all racists when it comes to our homeland and we want to kick out the squatters and landgrabbers and illegal immigrants. For better or worse, Tibetans living in exile and Dalai Lama do not see Han Chinese as Tibetans the same way as Americans don't see Mexicans illegally living in America as Americans or Indians not seeing illegal Bangladeshis as Indians. Dalai Lama do not see Tibet as part of China but as a separate country with its own distinct culture and way of life. Before China took over Tibet, Tibet was a separate country. As for the Tibetan Red Guards, well there's no easy answer to that but I am sure the Tibetans living in exile and Dalai Lama don't really see them as loyal tibetans but as traitors in the same way as the French Marquis saw the Vichy French people and collaborators as traitors and therefore not french.