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Old 10-31-2007, 01:23 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Dam shame its not the population of your country. Other wise things could be much different.
Hey population + AK-47 = regime change. Maybe you guys shouldn't hate us (AKM/NBP/RSKM (radical communists)) so much. After all in most AKM posters the K is a stylicised AK-47

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I admire his capacity
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They why persist is helping them with nuclear technology until the come absolutely clean with the U.N. and prove to the world in one shot that our suspicions are incorrect. Is that so dam hard to do? This problem will not go away until it is proven they do not posses that power. If they wish to burn the clock in the very same manner that Saddam did then imo they will be sol.
Putin suspended reactor construction until Iran is cleared with the U.N.

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Old 10-31-2007, 03:13 AM   #62 (permalink)
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If one had read Xerxes comments about the historical suspicion of Russia and Iran, the Putin is hardly the person who will arm Iran with nuke tech.

Also, if one looks at eh geostrategic powerplay that can take place later, Iran is hardly to Russian advantage
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:41 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Don't. There's not much of it to him.
Kasaprov supporter?
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If one had read Xerxes comments about the historical suspicion of Russia and Iran, the Putin is hardly the person who will arm Iran with nuke tech.

Also, if one looks at eh geostrategic powerplay that can take place later, Iran is hardly to Russian advantage
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:21 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Kasaprov supporter?
Please dont, that guy makes me puke, especially his party flag
Whoops. Did you miss my intro thread? The one that turned into a ''kill the commie'' pissing contest? I'm a communist. AKM member, so my ideal candidate would be Sergei Udaltsev.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:26 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Can I be the devil's advocate for a moment.

What about Israel's nuclear program, Why will Iran subject themselves to a discriminatory treatment. Its common knowledge Israel has a nuke program.

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Lets not imagine that they are complete idiots, backless morons who will dance to our whims and whams. As I said in my some other thread, it is impossible to make people submit in today's day and age, no matter who holds the stick.



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I dont think Iran's idea is to make the latest nuclear bomb, but just a nuclear bomb. There is no doubt in my mind, that they intend to make one.
We are not trying to make them dance to anything. Especially "our" whims. We dont treat them as foolish but if they wish to act in such a fashion then so be and good luck because you will certainly need it if time runs out. What we want is for them to be forthcoming instead of acting so suspiciously and threatening with their neighboring countries and the INRC and to uphold a treaty they signed. The U.S. will not allow a bomb of any sort into the hands of people that react extremely harshly based upon religious eddicts proficys and or whims because there are very unpredictable to their neighbors and or intentions. All we are asking is to be responsible a matter in which they still have not begun even as time is running out for negociations. And now other countries have taken notice to their time killing excuses so you can be sure time is running out.

His capacity or his strategy? A big difference.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:40 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Hey population + AK-47 = regime change. Maybe you guys shouldn't hate us (AKM/NBP/RSKM (radical communists)) so much. After all in most AKM posters the K is a stylicised AK-47



Don't. There's not much of it to him.



Putin suspended reactor construction until Iran is cleared with the U.N.

1) In a civilized country such as Russia there should be no need outside of voting. Thats democracy in full play coupled along with a stong constitution and basic rights to vote in your rulers. Why your people choose the other path is beyond us and something we choose not to focus on. Obvioulsy you dont want it bad enough yet. But as time carries on one never knows.

If you need to kill your own countrymen with AK's to see who leads the party instead of civilized voting of the masses and truely get whats best for the Russian people (something they should be entitled to from birth) then please by all means fire away you wont hear us complain one bit. Need more ammo?

I seriously question the reactor halt. Saying is one thing intelligence almost certainly will show the other and we both know it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:46 AM   #67 (permalink)
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His capacity or his strategy? A big difference.

Like G.W.Bush says He is "The DECIDER"...
Whatever it maybe, a person who is capable to bring Russia into the current situation she is, from what was a ruined country under drunkard Yelstien, He deserves more than just mere praises. That being said, he is not exactly the darling of the west, simple reason he runs his country for his people.

Strategy, Capacity whatever you may call it, If i was a Russian, I would want him for a President. I will wait for my complete democracy for a bit more time, but I cant wait to get food on my table. Westerner's will not understand the significance of that, simply because they havent for the past 300 years had to go through something like that. For us, it was just a mere 30 years ago.
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Like G.W.Bush says He is "The DECIDER"...
Whatever it maybe, a person who is capable to bring Russia into the current situation she is, from what was a ruined country under drunkard Yelstien, He deserves more than just mere praises. That being said, he is not exactly the darling of the west, simple reason he runs his country for his people.

Strategy, Capacity whatever you may call it, If i was a Russian, I would want him for a President. I will wait for my complete democracy for a bit more time, but I cant wait to get food on my table. Westerner's will not understand the significance of that, simply because they havent for the past 300 years had to go through something like that. For us, it was just a mere 30 years ago.
IMO Thats exactly why she is the way she is today. Democracy would have changed that long ago. Just think, how many intelligent minds that could have changed all of that and made things much better for the people were ran over by other methods behind the curtain.

There are many Westerners that know exactly what its like to starve. I kid you not. Being one of nine children growing up you dont need to tell me what its like to do without. Been there done that learned and changed to prevent that.
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IMO Thats exactly why she is the way she is today. Democracy would have changed that long ago. Just think, how many intelligent minds that could have changed all of that and made things much better for the people were ran over by other methods behind the curtain.
No, Democracy is slow, and I am in one, look at the nuke deal for an example.Too many cooks spoil the soup, is it?
The reason why China makes quicker decisions than India.
Anyways, Putin was never a dictator, he has done good for his nation, Russian revival itself is a miracle, and i doubt most people can do better. Whats wrong with Russia Today, that he doesnt toe American line. I dont judge leader's credentials just because of his oppositions to my country or line of thought.
He is doing what is good for his nation, and is against American dominance so your bias is completly understandable.
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No, Democracy is slow, and I am in one, look at the nuke deal for an example.Too many cooks spoil the soup, is it?
The reason why China makes quicker decisions than India.
Anyways, Putin was never a dictator, he has done good for his nation, Russian revival itself is a miracle, and i doubt most people can do better. Whats wrong with Russia Today, that he doesnt toe American line. I dont judge leader's credentials just because of his oppositions to my country or line of thought.
He is doing what is good for his nation, and is against American dominance so your bias is completly understandable.
If he changes election policy so that he can remain in power though he will show himself no better then Chavez. And yes Chavez is a dictator.Thats why many are watching this time.
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If he changes election policy so that he can remain in power though he will show himself no better then Chavez. And yes Chavez is a dictator.Thats why many are watching this time.
Let him do that, then we can pass our judgements
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Interesting , but Putin came to power in wake of bomb explosions . Now he is supposed to step down and new bomb attack , right before elections is already coming . Deja vu ?
Russian bus bombing kills 8 - CNN.com
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Interesting , but Putin came to power in wake of bomb explosions . Now he is supposed to step down and new bomb attack , right before elections is already coming . Deja vu ?
Russian bus bombing kills 8 - CNN.com
What about all the bombings and terrorist attacks through out Putin's term.
Conspiracy theory? or just Chechans islam-jihadi's going about their daily routine of blowing themselves up.
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What about all the bombings and terrorist attacks through out Putin's term.
Conspiracy theory? or just Chechans islam-jihadi's going about their daily routine of blowing themselves up.
Chechans and Jihadi's aside why does Russia continue to bully the surrounding countries that seek democracy. They no longer belong to Russia but yet Russia uses its bullying tactics to attempt to disuade them from seeking it. Afraid they will look bad if the other countries economies spring up all the sudden by embracing it or is that Russia's people are going to demand change and start asking the hard questions as well?
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Chechans and Jihadi's aside why does Russia continue to bully the surrounding countries that seek democracy. They no longer belong to Russia but yet Russia uses its bullying tactics to attempt to disuade them from seeking it. Afraid they will look bad if the other countries economies spring up all the sudden by embracing it or is that Russia's people are going to demand change and start asking the hard questions as well?
And I agree with you,
What do you think we will do to Sri Lanka, if it springs up a Chinese Presence.
There is no sense of fairness in geo-politics, and Russia will try whatever she can, against NATO expansion which is clearly aimed at her. It got nothing to do with how Russian people look bad, but rather on how Russian influence will get shackled by the American backed expansion.

Why doesnt America give the same significance to Mexico as it does to Canada. Fair..hardly..necessary and good for America.definitly yes, and so it should be.
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