smilingassassin

You know, the last time a political leader started threatening the west for domestic consumption we wound up with Hitler and WW2. Now we have Putin and A-Jad doing just the exact same thing.

How long before the threats Putin makes for domestic consumption are beleived by the average Russian and we wind up with another war?

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Dreadnought

If Iran continues down its path she will be halted no doubt about it. Russia will have her choice to get involved or to do the black market deals to make good on the available money between China,Syria etc.

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Adux

I actually admire the guy, credit for bringing Russia back to prominance.

Adux

Its quite foolish to think, Russia would have helped Iran to make a nuclear bomb.

Adux

What is Bush doing threatening war with Iran?

I am an avid supporter of WoT, but lets not paint them like idiots. When they are not.

Dreadnought

Where do you think the reactor designs and fuels are coming from? Russia is not concerned with what Iran does after the bill is paid and we all know it. Russia is only going to side where its money for its economy is coming from not what will happen after the bill is paid. Otherwise NK and others would have fallen long before these rounds of sanctions and talks. And who constantly hold up the sanctions based at NK and Iran?

Dreadnought

Well IF you are an avid WoT supporter then the answer to your first question should be quite apparent. Look at the groups Iran supports and arms. It not like its the girl scouts giving candy.

Dreadnought

Hold on here so you mean to say its ok with whiping another race from the planet because they are Jewish? Denying the holocost ever happened? Arming Hezbollah against Israel? Yes they are idiots and so is their idealogical way of thinking! Its old thinking, Its outdated thinking and it's that kind of thinking thats going to that country ran over before all is said and done threats or no threats.

Adux

So it is for domestic consumption?

PS: I squarely blame Bush for the mess that is WoT. Which he should have done a better job at, and that was Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan and Iran.

Adux

lol, I get this?
All, I said they have the right to call War, as long as we are also calling war. Its quite stupid to think, that we can call war all we want and they wont say it.
And thats all I meant,
and you can ask all those questions to some hippie, cuz my views on them are quite concrete and I dont think needs explanation.

Adux

I dont think Putin or any western power is stupid to put nuclear bombs in the hands of A-jad or any middle eastern nut. You severely under-estimate Putin. If we think Building a bomb, 1940's tech by Iranian scientist, is not possible. Then we are kidding ourseleves.

Dreadnought

No offense but thats the very same excuse everybody else is using but yet no one wants to belly up to the bar. Casting blame is a cop out. Fixing the problem is the hardest thing to do but blaming the U.S. for Iraq is plain ludicrous. If all these countries were seriously worried enough then with applied pressure etc with no back door dealings then this problem would have been solved by now.

You squarely blame Bush for this but its believed that history wont be so hard when it shows that he atleast had the balls to step forward and make a difference.

Adux

None taken,

He had the oppertunity, he didnt make it, but it came to him. The world rallied with him, treated him the leader. But then he squandered it.
Is it possible for you to believe, that I believe Afghanistan was the right war, and he should have taken care of Syria, Pakistan and Iran next and not Iraq. Saudi Arabia, now it seems is a total trust worthy ally in WoT. Though most of the finances, thoughts and recuritment did happen from there before.


it is not.

Dreadnought

They why persist is helping them with nuclear technology until the come absolutely clean with the U.N. and prove to the world in one shot that our suspicions are incorrect. Is that so dam hard to do? This problem will not go away until it is proven they do not posses that power. If they wish to burn the clock in the very same manner that Saddam did then imo they will be sol.

I never underestimate Putin . Building a bomb 1940's style is a big deal and almost any country out there can do it but it wont come even close to a newer generation nuc if used to retaliate with.

Adux

Can I be the devil's advocate for a moment.

What about Israel's nuclear program, Why will Iran subject themselves to a discriminatory treatment. Its common knowledge Israel has a nuke program.

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Lets not imagine that they are complete idiots, backless morons who will dance to our whims and whams. As I said in my some other thread, it is impossible to make people submit in today's day and age, no matter who holds the stick.

I admire his capacity

I dont think Iran's idea is to make the latest nuclear bomb, but just a nuclear bomb. There is no doubt in my mind, that they intend to make one.