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Old 09-18-2007, 22:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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China says it opposes threatening Iran with war

China says it opposes threatening Iran with war


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BEIJING - China is opposed to threatening Iran with war over its nuclear program and stands for a diplomatic solution, a government spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

The United States, Germany, France, Britain, Russia and China have backed two rounds of UN sanctions against Iran over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment and other sensitive work that could be used to make nuclear weapons.

"We believe the best option is to peacefully resolve the Iranian nuclear issue through diplomatic negotiations, which is in the common interests of the international community," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a regular briefing.

"We do not approve of easily resorting to threatening use of force in international affairs," Jiang said when asked to comment on remarks by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner raising the prospect of war with Iran.

Kouchner said on Sunday that Paris must prepare for the possibility of war with Tehran, although it was not an immediate danger.

Washington is leading a drive in the Security Council for a third sanctions resolution to punish Iran for enrichment, and White House spokesman Dana Perino said the United States was looking for a diplomatic solution.

China is one of five veto-wielding permanent members of the Security Council.

Iran denies it is secretly seeking nuclear weapons, saying it only wants to generate electricity. But it has ignored U.N. demands to suspend enrichment, and Washington has called a September 21 meeting for major powers to discuss further sanctions.
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"We do not approve of easily resorting to threatening use of force in international affairs," Jiang said when asked to comment on the prospect of war with Iran.

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Taiwan will make yet another attempt to become a member of the United Nations on Wednesday.

China has threatened to attack Taiwan if it declares independence.

Guess they missed this part....
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Guess they missed this part....
The Chinese threatening to attack a province that is still internationally recognized as their terrority, if the province declares itself independent. Is a bit different from a sovereign nation threatening to attack another sovereign nation because the nation might have nuclear weapons. Especially since the United States and France, have no room to be talking about other nation's nukes.
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Is a bit different from a sovereign nation threatening to attack another sovereign nation because the nation might have nuclear weapons. Especially since the United States and France, have no room to be talking about other nation's nukes.
Since the US has done far more than China as far as the NPT is concerned, she has every right to talk about China's nukes ... as she does about Iran's nukes.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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A key UN Committee will decide whether to even allow a debate on Taiwans applicationto take place. The request is likely to be defeated just as its 14 other attempts have been.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Since the US has done far more than China as far as the NPT is concerned, she has every right to talk about China's nukes ... as she does about Iran's nukes.
According to NPT, Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear energy. There's no evidence that Iran has the bomb or is building one. The United States is demanding that Iran give up their right to peaceful nuclear energy, but it's a legal right Iran actually has.

And yes, China does have the right to say something, if the United States is going to attack Iran. Because China has interests in Iran, and perhaps the idea of the UNited states having a puppet government in another oil rich state, isn't in the Chinese's best interests.
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According to NPT, Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear energy. There's no evidence that Iran has the bomb or is building one. The United States is demanding that Iran give up their right to peaceful nuclear energy, but it's a legal right Iran actually has.

And yes, China does have the right to say something, if the United States is going to attack Iran. Because China has interests in Iran, and perhaps the idea of the UNited states having a puppet government in another oil rich state, isn't in the Chinese's best interests.
Where the hell have you been??

This had been discussed on a different thread.
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According to NPT, Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear energy. There's no evidence that Iran has the bomb or is building one.

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Again, we have AQ Khan as evidence. Not ONLY has he provided the blueprints, the expertise BUT ALSO the equipment AND the paperwork specifically designed to hide the intent from both the IAEA AND Pakistan's own laws. The cascades the Iranians are using came from AQ Khan.

AQ Khan is the smoking gun.

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Each non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty undertakes not to receive the transfer from any transferor whatsoever of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices or of control over such weapons or explosive devices directly, or indirectly; not to manufacture or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices; and not to seek or receive any assistance in the manufacture of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.
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According to NPT, Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear energy. There's no evidence that Iran has the bomb or is building one. The United States is demanding that Iran give up their right to peaceful nuclear energy, but it's a legal right Iran actually has.
*** sigh *** at the risk of repeating myself.

AQ Khan has illegally (according to Pakistan's own laws as well as Agreements with China and the US) sold Iran the expertise, a warhead blueprint, and the equipment to manufacture nuclear weapons (not you but only an idiot will claim that acquiring weapons knowledge is not a weapons program). The IAEA has reported that Iran has ran cascades in secret and obtaining enriched uranium and plutonium outside of IAEA monitoring (an NPT violation).

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And yes, China does have the right to say something, if the United States is going to attack Iran. Because China has interests in Iran, and perhaps the idea of the UNited states having a puppet government in another oil rich state, isn't in the Chinese's best interests.
A completely different issue than about Chinese nukes.
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I didn't realize there was direct evidence that Iran was trying to build nukes. Don't get me wrong, I never bought the idea that Iran wasn't trying to get a nuke but I didn't think there was more than circumstantial evidence to prove that they were doing so.
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You want the kicker? The warhead blueprint was Chinese.
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yea- why am i not surprised.
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It's damned hard to talk about Iran's effort to get a nuke without talking about what might happen if she refuses to give up the effort.

Like the study Ray posted last week, it comes down to the question, do we want a nuclear Iran? So, China can make nice and call for diplomacy, but the threat hangs over the table nonetheless.
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yea- why am i not surprised.

Same here.
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