Kilika

I know there have been several of these, but I'd like one that looks just at the numbers and facts, not nationalism.

Don't post if you have a beef with another country, please.

Simply put, Turkey and Greece will most likely never fight another war (at least for a long time). But if they did, Greece would get help.
So, look at the facts, military sizes, economies, budgets, and people, and answer this:

Could Turkey (on its own) defeat a simultaneous war with Greece, Armenia, Syria, and a full-scale Kurdish uprising? Keep in mind that the Kurds are 20 million of the 70 million people in Turkey.
No other nations involved, no other groups involved. This is a simple test of numbers and skill.

Thoughts?

Kansas Bear

That should remove the majority of people.....




That my bottle of Glenfiddich is more intriguing.....

Sir Victor

A)There are unsolved problems with Greece.
1- The conflict of West Trace
2- The conflict of Aegean land-sea- air zone
3- The Dodacanese, the 12 islands

B) Syria like Greece is an artifical state created by the French and British after WW1. Syria was a Ottoman Turkish province since 1500's. Before that the first Turks who settled in Syria was in 1040's. Half of the population in Syria is Turkish. During WW1 our Syrian Brothers fought with us till bittter end. Only a few revolted and paid their lives for that. After the Armistrace Syrians fought for a long time againts invading French hoping that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk would help them. Unfortunately Mustafa Kemal was too bussy to save his land from enemy occupation. During 1930-60 pro Turc Syrian generals couped 4 times. But theye were beaten by pro-USA-French-British Arabs.
I am sure one day Turkey and Syria declare a federation. A Turkish Syrian Federation will bring prosperity, richness to Haleppo, Damascus, Gazi Antep, Kahraman Maras, Adana, Iskenderun and Hatay on Turkish side. Turkey is hinterland of Syria. Syria is hinterland of Turkey.
An artificial border drawned by French and British officers seperated two brothers nearly 80 years.
Those who hope for a Turkish Syrian War can lick their palms.

C) Kurds:
Only 1500-2000 fools try to seperate the nail from the flesh. There is only 5 million Kurds living in various parts of Turkey not 20. They all want to live happily together with their Turkish friend. There are millions of Turkish Kurdish marriages.For that reason there is no civil war within Turkish territory but a terror group tries to make the life boaring.
Those who hope for a Turkish Kurdish civil war can also lick their palms.

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Fox_bat

You mention above that "Syria like Greece is an artifical state created by the French and British after WW1." can you elaborate on the point that Greece is an atificial state? How do you come to this conclusion?

Parihaka

I'm not interested in another Turkey/Greece flame war. Kilika, as you say there have been a number of these already where everything meaningful and much that is not has been said.

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