Thread: Bush and Rumsfeld and all them Neocons should just God-damn Resign!

Originally Posted by lulldapull

Donnie I have posted at least 10 articles clearly outlining that Kerry will pull out from iraq! Kerry himself has never made it into a classified after thought either!

i dont search your other post, i only have the couple of strings that we have been discussing, if you can call what you do a discussion, i havnt seen you post any articles clearly outlining kerry's iraq pull out. i have seen a 4 year plan of his that would pull troops out after iraq was stabilized, but what the hell does than mean? stabalize?

lull, you can keep running your mouth thinking im your enemy, insult my intelligence, insult my mentality, insult my education, insult my art even, but really lull, im not attacking you, your the one on attack mode.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

you can keep asking for proof

hey whatever, i just asked you to back up your statment that kerry was going to pull out of iraq, the question was asked, you didnt answere, i wont ask again, ill just have to believe you dont have anything to back it up.

Originally Posted by Julie

Just trying to keep my chin up on the "day after." Cheney says Bush now has a Mandate....so everything will be alright now. Just trying to make everyone (including myself) feel more united, instead of divided, that's all. :)

ok, not sure what a mandate has to do with everything being alright, or what it has to do with me, but if its unitity your looking for, im all for it.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

Democrats were not interested i invasion of Iraq!

December 5, 2001
The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States The White House Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Mr. President:
The events of September 11 have highlighted the vulnerability of the United States to determined terrorists. As we work to clean up Afghanistan and destroy al Qaeda, it is imperative that we plan to eliminate the threat from Iraq.
This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf war status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.
For much of the last year, the Administration has struggled to plug loopholes in the international sanctions against Iraq. Unfortunately, efforts to coopt Saddam's illegal trading partners -- particularly Syria -- have failed. In the meantime, the illegal oil trade from Iraq has flourished, and Saddam now earns an estimated $2 billion annually, much of which he has devoted to his military and his illegal weapons programs.
If we have learned one thing from the ongoing battle in Afghanistan, it is that working effectively in coordination with locals on the ground can significantly leverage our own use of military farce. While we have no doubt that in the long run, the United States will always prevail in battle with the likes of the Taliban (not to speak of Saddam Hussein), we also know that we can minimize casualties and shorten conflict by cooperating with opposition forces. That has been a key element of U.S. strategy for several decades.
Since the passage of the Iraq Liberation Act three years ago, we have fought to provide support for Iraqis inside Iraq. The Iraqi National Congress (INC), an umbrella group of all the significant anti-Saddam forces inside Iraq, has consistently requested Administration assistance for operations on the ground in Iraq ranging from the delivery of humanitarian assistance and information-gathering to military and technical training and lethal military drawdown.
Despite the express wishes of the Congress, the INC has been denied U.S. assistance for any operations inside any part of Iraq, including liberated Kurdish areas. Instead, successive Administrations have funded conferences, offices and other intellectual exercises that have done little more than expose the INC to accusations of being "limousine insurgents" and "armchair guerillas". We note the troubling similarity of these accusations to charges made against the Afghan guerillas now helping us win the war against the Taliban.
The threat from Iraq is real, and it cannot be permanently contained. For as long as Saddam Hussein is in power in Baghdad, he will seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them. We have no doubt that these deadly weapons are intended for use against the United States and its allies. Consequently, we believe we must directly confront Saddam, sooner rather than later. Without allies on the ground inside Iraq, we will be handicapping our own efforts. Each day that passes costs us an opportunity to unite and professionalize the Iraqi opposition, thus ensuring it will be less capable when the conflict begins.
Again, we can learn from our experience in Afghanistan. We cannot be drawn into the ethnic politics of any particular nation, but should find a way to work with all the opposition in a unified framework. The Iraqi National Congress is the only umbrella organization comprising all elements of the Iraqi opposition. No one group is excluded, no one group is favored.
Mr. President, all indications are that in the interest of our own national security, Saddam Hussein must be removed from power. Let us maximize the likelihood of a rapid victory by beginning immediately to assist the Iraqi opposition on the ground inside Iraq by providing them money and assistance already authorized and appropriated.
We look forward to working with you on this most important matter.
Sincerely,
(signed) John McCain
(signed) Jesse Helms
(signed) Henry Hyde
(signed) Richard Shelby
(signed) Harold Ford, Jr.
(signed) Joe Lieberman
(signed) Trend Lott
(signed) Ben Gilman
(signed) Sam Brownback