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Old 09-10-2004, 08:24 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Jews, Bolshevism and Russia

First of all let me make it clear about the 2 main terms you are using here.

- Communism is a theory, created by Marx and Engels, later modified by Lenin and Stalin, and Mao as its Chinese version (Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Maoism).

- Bolshevism is a movement inside Russian Social Democratic Party (RSDP or RSDP(b)) of Bolsheviks. The term Bolshevik/Bolshevism is a derivatory from an adjective Bolshe, which means "More" in Russian (which relates to Bolsheviks were the biggest fraction inside RSDRP. Their opponents in RSDP were called Mensheviks (from "Menshe" = Less).

Jews DID constitute the majority of the Communist Party's (RSDP) rulling beurocracy. - you have mentioned several, like Troztky, Kamenev, Zinoviev above. There were much much more of those which you have never heard of. Their influence in Bolshevik Party comes from their control of Party's funds and Security structures (EC (Ch.K.), OGPU, NKVD. During the Civil war in 1918-1920 Jews constitute a huge part of the military commissars, and top military officers (Trozky - was the commander in chief for most of the Civil War).

Jews did support Communist Party, but for most this was not the support of the ideas. Their main goal was to dispose Nationalist leaders of Russia (Tzars, as well as short-time democratic Temporary Government, that existed between The Fedbruary and October Revolution in 1917), since the latter supported the policy of the oppresion of (jewish) human rights (the official Jewish pale), since antisemitism was an integral part of Russian mentality (that was not touched prior to the jewish October revolution).

That might seem funny but Russians are and have always been quite tolerate to other nationalities under their reign. We had many colonies uder our rule, but except for Poland and 2 Caucasus tribes (chechens and dagestanis), no ethnic minoriity has developed a strong dislike of Russians (Russians prior to them converted into Soviets! Dont confuse that!) which was expressed in constant insurrections - like those in British colonial emripe where Brits treated their subjects as subhumans, thus causing numerous nationalist anti-British sentiments. In Russian Empire most of the ethnic minorities even had more rights than simple Russians (out of which 70% were peasants). Many minorities were not obliged to serve in the army, MOST never had serfdom among their peasantry, besides, again MOST of the minorities were freed from certain taxes. Besides it was always easy to become Russian in Russian Empire - you just had to accept Orthodoxy and new Russian Christian name. Thus many muslim Tatars, many Lutheran Germans and many Cetral Asians have become Russians. The only way to distinguish them now is the ethymological analysis of their family names (like Jusupov - derives from an old Kazan Tatar Khan's name) and certain racial features. This preferential treatment and "convert-to-Russian" opportunity existed for every nation of the Russian empire....except for jews.

I am not going to discuss the historical routs of the traditional Russian antisemitism - I am not a historian (though im quite familiar with the history of my nation). First pogroms noticed in Western countires, probably, were those in the end of the 19th century, due to the development of revolutionary movement in Russia - as you have mentioned above, it was widely supported and actually managed my jews. Their first crime against Russian nation - the asssination of Russian Tzar Alexandre II - the great remormator of Russia, that freed our peasants from serfdom, gave our nation, local self-administration laws, jury court, developed Russian industry, finance, led Russian Imperial troops to defeat Turkish army and save Balkan Christians of Bulgaria and Serbia from Turkish organized massacres - all this and many more had this great Tzar done, which inspired Russian people call him Alexandre II - The Liberator. On the day of his assasination he was on his was to Senate to sign a law granting Russia its first constitution...but anyway, im off topic. This assssination, though not implemented by jew (the assasin was confused for jew, but was actually a Pole) was organized by the jewish-run revolutionary secta. London owns its Whitechapple jewish population (in case there are still any jews there now) to this assasination and sudsequent porgoms.

The main goal of jews, as it is widely accepted in Russia now - and has always been prior to 1917 is to destroy our Great Nation (mind: i dont say the country) and take control over it - in a way it was close to be done in Germany before Hitler came to power. In exactly in the way it is perfectly implemented in the USA, once the great Anglo-Saxon counrty, now an economic, political and MILITARY tool in jewish hands. (and puleez, don't ask me for the examples of jewish influence in the USA - you all know them much better than I do, but are just afraid to speak in public).

So in 1917 they have succeded that, killed our Tzar, his family, executed or made immigrate all of our elite, mudered 8 million of Russians (no matter under Red or White flags), installed the system of social self-destruction named communism...and, its funny, they didnt seem to like it! They have been trying to flee to Israel during the last 20 years when that system threated them!

So, yes, we have the right to call Communism Jewish. At least that kind of Communism we had in Russia.
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:56 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Obviously "Last call" is not a term Russia got with it's glasnost program.

Wishing for a return to the soviet pogrom days? When villages in Russia would persecute and murder the Jewish population, out of blaming them for the financial, agricultural, or any other type of problems said village had.
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Old 09-10-2004, 16:05 PM   #78 (permalink)
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First of all Jews have been discriminanted in Europe. Say what you want.

Shakespeare, Hitler, the Russian progoms bear witness.

Yet, these movements could not do without Jews. They controlled the money power and brain power. But once used, they were dispensable.

All were jealous and scared of the money power of the Jews, but had no hesitation to use it for their cause.

Even today, Kissinger is who? He laid the foundation of US' policy world wide. Cohen and so many others. Who are they? Heavens, if one is to use them to do your thinking for you or financing your shceme, stop baiting them!

Come on, give them a break.
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Old 10-01-2004, 17:00 PM   #79 (permalink)
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First of all Jews have been discriminanted in Europe. Say what you want.

Shakespeare, Hitler, the Russian progoms bear witness.

Yet, these movements could not do without Jews. They controlled the money power and brain power. But once used, they were dispensable.

All were jealous and scared of the money power of the Jews, but had no hesitation to use it for their cause.

Even today, Kissinger is who? He laid the foundation of US' policy world wide. Cohen and so many others. Who are they? Heavens, if one is to use them to do your thinking for you or financing your shceme, stop baiting them!

Come on, give them a break.
Sure, there is not discrimination in the United States of America towards European Americans. Is it right for illegal immigrants to have languages provided for them first hand? These Neo-Immigrants are not in America to be proud "one of" Americans, but for their economic status. Secondly, movements are stupid! Yeah head man is payed for uneducated kids to hand out flyers. Yeah that guy really cares about his heritage. The Shylock did not apologize for 9/11 and I think they owe us(Americans) an apologie. The Jews are the cabinet of America and the own the internet and the media, therefore I do not watch the Zion Tube anymore. It saddens me these evil individuals are out to assimilate culture.

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Old 10-01-2004, 22:21 PM   #80 (permalink)
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The Jews are the cabinet of America and the own the internet and the media, therefore I do not watch the Zion Tube anymore. It saddens me these evil individuals are out to assimilate culture.
Yikes! That was your first post?
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Old 10-01-2004, 22:48 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Yikes! That was your first post?
Yes, I apologize Confed. Sorry. I probably should have checked if there was a new member thread.
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Old 10-02-2004, 01:30 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Thats not what he meant. Your biggotry is not welcome here.

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Old 10-02-2004, 16:21 PM   #83 (permalink)
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The Jews are the cabinet of America and the own the internet and the media,.
I understand your apprehensions.

Yet, Can the US do without them?

Let's be very candid. The sharp brains of the Jews is what makes them a 'threat' to others. In every field they have excelled, not only in the USA but also world wide including my country, India.

That is why 'others' feel a wee bit uncomfortable.

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Old 10-02-2004, 17:19 PM   #84 (permalink)
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"The sharp brains of the Jews"
ROFL, sorry Ira couldn't help but laugh.
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Well I did find it a bit funny.

Jews are not smarter or dumber than anybody else. There have been Jewish scientists and economists and such, but being Jewish is not what made them smart, although Judaism does emphasize education. But Jews are not the only people to do that.
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