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Old 07-22-2004, 16:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Koran was there before they invaded iraq but the US troops were not.So the reason they are fighting is not koran but occupation of their country.They are fighting for liberation but if someone uses koran as a motivating tool that doesnt make it a religious war.Just like a soldier's pray to god for help on D_day landing didnt change it from a war to liberate france to a holy one.
So you think if Iraq was a individual rights loving nation they would still fight us?

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Old 07-22-2004, 16:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Koran was there before they invaded iraq but the US troops were not.
They were fighting before the Coalition forces liberated Iraq too.
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their country.
Except a large number are foreign and/or Saddam's own home grown terrorists. It appears the rest are poor saps, talked into fighting by their "religious" leaders in an effort to gain political power.
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They are fighting for liberation
No, they are foolishly fighting to put another dictator in power, just look at the people they're fighting for.
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Both iran and israel have nukes .
If Iran has nukes, then there isn't a reason to bomb the nuke plant. Iran doesn't have nukes, if they did, I have no doubt, they would have used them allready. The long anticipated invasion of Iraq would have been a great time to nuke two enemies at once, and put the blame on Saddam.
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during the iraq iran war
Well, that covers around 7 years, now you have 13 more years to account for. The government defeated in Iraq had only been in place since 1979 right? Sounds like that's going to require temporal proof.
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Old 07-22-2004, 16:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So you think if Iraq was a individual rights loving nation they would still fight us?
Heck no... There would be no point, in fact, it would be foolish.
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Old 07-22-2004, 17:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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That's exactly my point!
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Old 07-23-2004, 02:39 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Why is everyone considering the freedom fight against occoupation in iraq as a reliligious one.Every decent man fights if his country is invaded regardless of his interest in religion.The freedom fight in iraq is Nationlist instead of religious.


Isreal would never attack iran because that would trigger a worldwide conflict.USA may attack and is in a better position to do so (that is if u see USA and Israel as different countries).Even usa finds it difficult to start a war without support of rest of the world.
I would agree it is Nationalistic if there was less of the Koran bashing from the pulpit! This Allahu Akbar and jehad is getting to be a bit like a worn out record. Its become too Long Playing a record than the average LP that we have heard before the CDs and MP3s. Cut the gas and lets have some action.

Isn't Israel and the US different contries? Or are you cross eyed? In fact, the last Malaysian Prime Minister said that the Jews rule the world. If that is what you are meaning, its too philosphical. We too have Jews, but I don't see them dictating terms. Ah, but Pakistan has no Jews and so it is difficult to fathom for you.

I wonder how they started the Iraqi stuff. I presume they didn't have the support of the rest of the world and yet they did what they did. They didn't ahve too much of difficulty to go against what you and I may think. How come, old bean? Or has someone else attacked Iraq? Now, what are we to do? I await with bated breath for your wise guidance. Friend, the US unfortunately does what it does and we can only rave and rant. That is the bottomline. It can be Bush or it can be Kerry. They will still do what they want to do.

BTW, I thought Commies were banned in the US. How come you still survive?
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oh they aren't banned, I think they just lower property values wherever they live though.
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:46 AM   #37 (permalink)
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It's funny though, raja khan doesn't seem to realize than Bulshevism is a jewish thing originally.
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wasn't karl marx a jew?
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:49 PM   #39 (permalink)
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unfortunatly...although he renounced Judaism....ya know, the whole "opiate of the people thing"
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Old 07-23-2004, 14:33 PM   #40 (permalink)
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BTW, I thought Commies were banned in the US. How come you still survive?
Because the liberal left sees nothing wrong with communism. I heard the commies support Kerry, hmm I wonder why.
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Wasn't karl marx a jew?
Yep. So were Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, the murderers of the Romanovs etc.
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Lenin wasn't Jewish. And what were the names of the murderers of the Romanovs? I assumed it was just rank and file reds who killed them.
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Lenin wasn't Jewish.
Yes, he was.
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And what were the names of the murderers of the Romanovs? I assumed it was just rank and file reds who killed them.
I won't, LOL! In Finland there was a book written about the event and the writer was charged for "inciting hate" and antisemitism!
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Karl marx and lenin beleived in no religoin.

I dont say jews rule the world but they own big buisness in usa that finances usa polotics

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eMGee    It's funny though, raja khan doesn't seem to realize than Bulshevism is a jewish thing originally
Communism believes in no religion.Stalin kicked many jews out of russia after creation of israel kaz he thought they were not loyal to russia.

I agree with u RAY.I only meant that support from the world makes it easy for usa too invade.


All men like to see thrie countries free.even if the invaders keep on telling them that its not an invasion but "operation iraqi freedon".USA can spent $150 bn for its trroops in iraq but cannot give $ 5 bn for reconstruction.But iraqies are not wise enough to take it as freedom.


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If Iran has nukes, then there isn't a reason to bomb the nuke plant. Iran doesn't have nukes, if they did, I have no doubt, they would have used them allready. The long anticipated invasion of Iraq would have been a great time to nuke two enemies at once, and put the blame on Saddam    by confed999.
Do u mean nuclear bombs?
sorry its not that simple
u fire a nuke and blame it on me


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Well, that covers around 7 years, now you have 13 more years to account for. The government defeated in Iraq had only been in place since 1979 right? Sounds like that's going to require temporal proof.
saddan took office in 1979 but baath party was ruling even b4 that with saddam hussain as vice president
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Old 07-23-2004, 16:39 PM   #45 (permalink)
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All men like to see thrie countries free.even if the invaders keep on telling them that its not an invasion but "operation iraqi freedon".
You don't want freedom, you want to loot and murder anyone who dares to produce.
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