Stinger

No. the Joke is "The French Army? Whats that?" thats the whole joke... I have another joke though

Knock
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bigross86

I dread to ask Who's there?

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Stinger

Go F**k yourself

Edit: I better go ahead and put my disclaimer, its from "Catch Me If You Can" Tom Hanks character says it :D

bigross86

You're funny. looking, that is.

troung

“The bastards I was refering to were the communist leaders and not the general population. I appologize if you took it as a condemnation of the people, however I make no apologies about it in reference to the Communist leaders of Vietnam.”

The bastards were the southern leadership.

“Plus they lost way more men then we did (2 million, to 58,000 plus casulties taken by the ARVN, South Koreans, Australians, Thai and other forces fighting on our side)”

Around a million ARVN dead……….

“You feel compelled to downgrade Isreals military ability due to their wins against (supposedly) inferior enemies. Yet when I bring up a country that has never even won a major war without military support from other countries (UK primarily) you have no doubt that they could beat Isreal...”

Nice French bashing. Anyways France can project power around the world unlike Israel. The French can design modern jet fighters on their own without using someone else’s money and actually put them into service.

And French weapons do work very well in real life.

And I hate to tell you this, but the French as we speak have troops and planes (Mirage 2000D) backing the USA in Afghanistan.

“I happen to disagree, and I doubt the French people would be very happy after the Isreali's start an experiment involving one French CVN and the bottom of the Ocean.”

Wow good one.

How would the IDF/AF feel about the French knocking out all their bases at very long range using the SCALP EG and APACHE?

And not like the IDF navy could go very far out to sea but if they tried they would be Exocet bait for the Mirage F-1CTs, Rafales or SuE.

bigross86

Then perhaps you can offer an explanation as to why the French are the laughingstock of the world...

troung

"Then perhaps you can offer an explanation as to why the French are the laughingstock of the world.."

There are a lot dumb people out there thats my explantion. People how have never checked out French military history or checked the French military.

Please don't try and pretend like the Israelis could beat the French, Israel should stick to what it is good at and that is beating on 14 year old kids.


I have a queston......

Hey in WW2 the French fougth back after they were conquered now what do the Jews have to say for themeselves...............

bigross86

Ask Snipe. We got into this over at the WT and i absolutely refuse to do it again. If you want to, go look for it. In the meantime, explain why the French are sterotyped as cowards, and the Jews are stereotyped as filthy rich lawyers and doctors?

Stinger

As far as the Apache goes when did 140km become "Very Long Range"?
and while 250km is much better The Scalp EG wouldn't qualify as "very long ranged" to my mind either.

bigross86

Wow! He has it all worked out, doesn't he? Oh well, I guess I'll go home and I won't fight.

Now THAT is the French attitude. The Israeli attitude would be fight until you get it, no stragglers, no quitters, one man complains hes going in first.

markaspen

You know there's a scale here. Israel is what 6 million, France is 20-30 million? At least the population of Canada.

Troung, your'e wrong, Israel has a blue water capable navy, but doesn't have to project globally on a regular basis. Pound for pound, its just as effective as the French Navy, at much less cost. The Exocet is offset by both the Harpoon and Gabriel so its a wash.

Here's the big difference, commitment of National Will, the Israelis will be unambiguous if necessary. I don't know that France could do that anymore. With the exception of the Foreign Legion, I don't think they can field a truly competent unit.

As to your 14 year old comment, its entirely gratuitous. I came here from the Pakistan forum to lose that kind of stupidity. Stow it.

By the by, the Mirage 5 was paid for primarily by the Israelis and Dassault together. The Froggies reneged on their committment to sell us the plane, hence the Nesher and Kfir. Let me see. THe US's first jet used a licensed production model of the Whittle ramjet from England. After that we largely copied German designs. Why do you condemn the Israelis for not being completely original?

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bigross86

During the American Civil War, a French officer asked a British counterpart why they wore red coats. "Don't you know it makes you an easy target?" He asked. The Brit answered "Yes, but this way, if the officer or a soldier gets shot, the color blends in with the coat and the men continue fighting without a loss of morale. Even since then, the French have worn brown pants to battle... :twisted: 8) :p :devil :S

ZFBoxcar

Actually the population of France is 60 million, so you are even more right.

troung

"Wow! He has it all worked out, doesn't he? Oh well, I guess I'll go home and I won't fight."

France trains to knock out enemy air bases to prevent them from even flying. Then you have advanced missiles like the MICA EM/IR carried by the Mirage 2000-5C/B and Rafale.

"Now THAT is the French attitude. The Israeli attitude would be fight until you get it, no stragglers, no quitters, one man complains hes going in first."

hahhahahahahahha

The French are known for fighting to the end. I can name many battles where they fought againist hopeless odds. And the Israelis bet on old women and little kids. So pulling up thier defeat in WWII is not all that great of a test, becuase look how many nations its took to beat Germany (UK, USSR, USA, Free European Forces). So please don't take all the credit for defeating the Nazis.

"Troung, your'e wrong, Israel has a blue water capable navy, but doesn't have to project globally on a regular basis. Pound for pound, its just as effective as the French Navy, at much less cost. The Exocet is offset by both the Harpoon and Gabriel so its a wash."

Top heavy corvettes do not make a blue water navy. It's no where near the French navy in power projection. Can the IDF navy blockade the Malaysia for example? Can the IDF blockaid Argentina.

France has a blue water navy with Carriers, SSBNs, SSNs, DDGs, FFGs and support ships.

"By the by, the Mirage 5 was paid for primarily by the Israelis and Dassault together. The Froggies reneged on their committment to sell us the plane,"

The Nesher was actually just the Mirage 5J which the USA brought over from France using the C-141, check ACIG on that one.

"In the meantime, explain why the French are sterotyped as cowards, and the Jews are stereotyped as filthy rich lawyers and doctors?"

And I guess every black guy can play basketball and every Asian guy knows kung fu?

"As far as the Apache goes when did 140km become "Very Long Range"?
and while 250km is much better The Scalp EG wouldn't qualify as "very long ranged" to my mind either."

More then long enough. And they would be carried on the Rafale, Mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000D/N. Compared with the weapons the B-52H uses those are no long ranged but they are longer ranged then the IDF/AFs Popeye.

ZFBoxcar

No they were reverse engineered versions of it that were built because the French refused to deliver the real thing.

You dont see the contridiction in what you said, do you? You argue that the French army is unfairly discriminated against but all the Israeli army can do it beat up women and children. Wow...thats like saying all white people are racist.

Uh...the Popeyes range is 200 km.