Osama Bin Laden is dead and his corpse is in US hands.

**gunnut** · 04 May 11,, 01:28

Originally Posted by Hilal123

Showing the dead body of bin laden is not going to piss off any one as much as that sort of language about the Holy City of Islam that you have used in your post.

It seems that you have a wider issue with Islam .. why else would you resort making derogatory references to sacred cities of Islam.

When people see bigotted people like you and that preacher that burned the Quran then they do start to view america more negatively.

What? We can't call Mecca by its name? Lighten up, Francis!

Burning our flag is the same as burning the koran. You don't see us bum rush a mosque and lynch some muslims, do you?

**Agnostic Muslim** · 04 May 11,, 01:32

Originally Posted by Dago

Lets see, DNA was already confirmed. And you don't need a body to retain samples. Physical identification? Facial recognition was used. DNA is as close to it as it gets, you don't need to fly someone out there to confirm him, doubt the would remember that long ago also.

Whether the DNA was confirmed or not or needed a body is not the point. The point is that every one expected skepticism around obl's death, and there were plenty of 'non offensive' reasons that could have been used to justify keeping his body on board the carrier, and allow international journalists and officials to view it and confirm identity. The hasty burial story makes no sense. IMO the guy is alive and in US custody.

**troung** · 04 May 11,, 01:34

Showing the dead body of bin laden is not going to piss off any one as much as that sort of language about the Holy City of Islam that you have used in your post.

He called Bin Laden a sack of shit you dolt....

**Hilal123** · 04 May 11,, 01:34

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

He wasnt a muslim or islamic by any means, he was pure evil and killed many of what he claimed was his own kind as well as Iraqi, Afghan,Pakistani,American,British,Canadian etc etc etc. Your grasping at straws. IMO, I dont care if it pissies off certain Clerics, they didnt give a care when 3000 of my countrymen women and children were murdered by this this POS. They also didnt care how they were buried under thousands of tons of rubble and many not even able to be identified. RIP Piece of Shit! I hope your trip to the bottom is short.

Mecca has ZERO to do with this but is in relation to another article in which clerics complained he wasnt buried in "tradition". To which I replyed above. If you dont like it, dont read it. No one is forcing you too.

there was no reason for you to say that the sack of shit isnt facing Mecca .. it was just unnecessary .. Im only here since this event happened in my country and there is misinformation that is being speard

**Dreadnought** · 04 May 11,, 01:35

Here you go Sally, Now stop crying.

CAIRO (AP) " Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks against American targets.

Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial " as with many issues within the faith " a wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Sea burials can be allowed, they said, but only in special cases where the death occurred aboard a ship.

"The Americans want to humiliate Muslims through this burial, and I don't think this is in the interest of the U.S. administration," said Omar Bakri Mohammed, a radical cleric in Lebanon.

http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/io...hread,10406967

*Now ask me if I care how he was buried knowing 3000 others were buried in building rubble on Sept 11TH due to this piece of shit.

On to number two on the list. And by the way, your shot at making me look as though I would agree with anyone that burns any Holy Book was pretty pathetic at best. Better luck next time.

**gunnut** · 04 May 11,, 01:37

According to two sources in a closed door briefing, Panetta told lawmakers "either they were involved or incompetent. Neither place is a good place to be."

Wow, I never thought I would agree with Leon Panetta 100% on something...anything.

Didn't I mention that a few posts back? I'll try not to strain my shoulder while patting myself on the back.

**Dreadnought** · 04 May 11,, 01:40

Originally Posted by Hilal123

there was no reason for you to say that the sack of shit isnt facing Mecca .. it was just unnecessary .. Im only here since this event happened in my country and there is misinformation that is being speard

Well, In my country I have Freedom of Speech, and I think many Americans would agree he was a sack of shit. Evil at that and we are glad the SOB is dead, dead, DEAD!.

And in truth, during a sea burial chances are his fish food ass is nowhere near facing. Laws of Physics say so. That is if it survived the prop wash.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 04 May 11,, 01:40

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Here you go Sally, Now stop crying.

CAIRO (AP) " Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks against American targets.

Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial " as with many issues within the faith " a wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Sea burials can be allowed, they said, but only in special cases where the death occurred aboard a ship.

"The Americans want to humiliate Muslims through this burial, and I don't think this is in the interest of the U.S. administration," said Omar Bakri Mohammed, a radical cleric in Lebanon.

Islamic scholars question bin Laden's sea burial

*Now ask me if I care how he was buried knowing 3000 others were buried in building rubble on Sept 11TH due to this piece of shit.

On to number two on the list. And by the way, your shot at making me look as though I would agree with anyone that burns any Holy Book was pretty pathetic at best. Better luck next time.

Yet more reason for the 'burial at sea' story to be baloney. Absolutely no good reason to bury him in haste.

**Dago** · 04 May 11,, 01:40

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

Whether the DNA was confirmed or not or needed a body is not the point. The point is that every one expected skepticism around obl's death, and there were plenty of 'non offensive' reasons that could have been used to justify keeping his body on board the carrier, and allow international journalists and officials to view it and confirm identity. The hasty burial story makes no sense. IMO the guy is alive and in US custody.

There is no need to have it be confirmed by journalist. And I doubt they could confirm it, if the graphic account is true. Heck, why not have a public showing? Maybe a state funeral in Mecca? LMFAO. This was probably the most respectful way you could handle a dead body, instead of parading it around. Granted. It didn't deserve the respect. But no one wants to deal with it one day longer then they have too.

What is the most accurate way? DNA - correct? That was obtained was it not? DNA is more accurate then confirmations from journalist.

**Hilal123** · 04 May 11,, 01:42

Originally Posted by gunnut

What? We can't call Mecca by its name? Lighten up, Francis!

Burning our flag is the same as burning the koran. You don't see us bum rush a mosque and lynch some muslims, do you?

Well you've bum rushed countries and killed tens of thousands .. but I suppose that doesnt count

**Dago** · 04 May 11,, 01:42

Originally Posted by gunnut

Wow, I never thought I would agree with Leon Panetta 100% on something...anything.

Didn't I mention that a few posts back? I'll try not to strain my shoulder while patting myself on the back.

Panetta will also not take the firm stand the Administration took with regards to water boarding. He said whether that was intelligence from enhanced intergeneration techniques or not will be debate for a long time.

**Hilal123** · 04 May 11,, 01:47

Originally Posted by troung

Is there an all of the involved?

May 3rd, 2011
06:38 PM ET
Sources: Panetta to Congress – Pakistan either incompetent or involved – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Sources: Panetta to Congress – Pakistan either incompetent or involved
mug.dana By: CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash

Washington (CNN) - CIA Director Leon Panetta told House members Tuesday that any way you look at it, Pakistan's role in Osama bin Laden's whereabouts was troubling.

According to two sources in a closed door briefing, Panetta told lawmakers "either they were involved or incompetent. Neither place is a good place to be."

Panetta was responding to a question from a member of Congress about Pakistan, which was the first question of the hour-long classified briefing, the sources said.

He made clear that he and other administration officials are trying to get to the bottom of which it was -involvement or incompetence.

Bipartisan frustration had been boiling over from both parties when it became clear bin Laden's compound was in an urban area less than a mile from a major Pakistani military academy.

"It had everything except a neon sign sticking out there," Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, told CNN.

Freshman Republican Allen West of Florida, who served in the army in Iraq and was a civilian officer in Afghanistan, told CNN "there is no way that people in the ISI [Pakistan's Intelligence Agency] and military did not know that Osama bin Laden has been living there for quite some time."

Lautenberg and West are among several lawmakers who say Congress should cut off funding immediately, to try to force Pakistani officials to answer questions about what they knew about Bin Laden's location.

Over the last eight years, the U.S. has given Pakistan nearly $20 billion dollars in foreign aid, mostly to try to convince the tenuous ally to help combat terrorism.

The State Department requested $3 billion more for next year. The Defense Department asked for $2.3 billion just for Pakistani counterterrorism efforts.

Despite calls to withhold funding now, many senior lawmakers say that's premature and that Congress should wait until the U.S. gets answers from Pakistan.

"Was this just benign indifference, or was it indifference with a motive? I don't know the answer but we need to find out." said Democratic Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein of California.

Members of congress who are warning against a rush to judgment note different factions of the Pakistani government offer different levels of cooperation. The relationship is often tense, and quite complex.

"They've lost thousands and thousands and thousands of their soldiers fighting terrorists. Now this doesn't mean we don't need more oversight, and I'm willing to do that," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

"It's complicated because it's not just all security. They are a country right in the middle of where everything is happening. They do work with us when they choose to," said GOP Rep. Sue Myrick of North Carolina.

After the Raymond Davis issue , Leon Panetta has developed a personal grudge against Pakistan , its quite visible from his tone and his behaviour , this is the guy Pakistan needs to watch out for.

**Dreadnought** · 04 May 11,, 01:48

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

Yet more reason for the 'burial at sea' story to be baloney. Absolutely no good reason to bury him in haste.

If it was me, his ass would have been thrown overboard and dragged by a rope back to the US and deposited in the nearest active volcanoe.

What you call haste, they called 24 hours.

Funny for you to say he isint dead but yet his buddies post other on their bullshit websites.

And umm by the way, obviously you have no idea of how long the USN would keep a body aboard a CVN. Especially his.

Maybe you should write mysteries.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 04 May 11,, 01:51

Originally Posted by Dago

There is no need to have it be confirmed by journalist. And I doubt they could confirm it, if the graphic account is true. Heck, why not have a public showing? Maybe a state funeral in Mecca? LMFAO. This was probably the most respectful way you could handle a dead body, instead of parading it around. Granted. It didn't deserve the respect. But no one wants to deal with it one day longer then they have too.

What is the most accurate way? DNA - correct? That was obtained was it not? DNA is more accurate then confirmations from journalist.

Its not about confirming ID for the us, but about putting all rumors to rest. The 'confirming ID' would just have been an excuse to keep the body longer, and inviting a select group of international journalists and officials who had met OBL under the guise of 'confirming ID' would not have been 'parading his body' nor offensive and would have silenced any skeptics - this isn't rocket science.

**ace16807** · 04 May 11,, 01:55

I'm fairly certain that if they released pictures and journalists saw the body first hand, the same people would simply say "'shopp'd" and "paid off".