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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    Iranian radio reported that bin laden died in 2004 [ denied by pentagon ofcourse ]
    Pentagon Denies Osama Capture

    So really its about whose story is more believable
    "The director of Iran radio’s Pashtun language service, Asheq Hossein, said the report was based on two sources — one of whom later told The Associated Press he was misquoted.
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    So one source, was misquoted, and denied, so this is based off one source? oh ok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    Iranian radio reported that bin laden died in 2004 [ denied by pentagon ofcourse ]
    Pentagon Denies Osama Capture

    So really its about whose story is more believable
    Iranian government also said Holocaust didn't happen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dago View Post
    You would think thats standard procedure. Maybe they thought it would take too long and they would be vulnerable. I have no idea. Who makes those type of decisions?

    They get the order, the SEALS, and then the Commander plan and executes it?
    No idea; maybe they wanted the occupants of the compound to think that they were simply Pak higher-ups stopping by for a visit, and then BAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dago View Post
    "The director of Iran radio’s Pashtun language service, Asheq Hossein, said the report was based on two sources — one of whom later told The Associated Press he was misquoted.
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    So one source, was misquoted, and denied, so this is based off one source? oh ok!
    Dale watson of FBI also said in 2002 that bin laden is probably not with us any more

    and there are other quotes also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    If the chopper was downed by Pakistani fire .. dont you think the American people have a right to know ?.
    not really, no, may be family of dead crew, but thee were no casualtys on us side.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    If it crashed for any other reason dont you think that the American people need to know why it crashed ?
    Whats the offical word about the fate of this chopper ?.
    again not really, why?
    what makes you think american ppl have right to know about these things, that is besides the fact that our government hasn't really been honest about much lately. o more like ever.
    i just don't think general public needs to know details.
    and i just don't expect us govt not to lie.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    The point you dont get is .. that your government isnt telling you the whole truth , no bin laden dead body , no word about the obvious chopper crash .. there is a cover up and you cant see through it.
    i wouldn't be surprised of anything. some things don't add up.
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    JFK 94 years old and enjoying the South-west sunshine? Why not?

    Iranian new reporting bin Laden’s death seven years ago? If true, the more interesting story would be the 20+ audio and video tapes he produced from beyond the grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    Iranian radio reported that bin laden died in 2004 [ denied by pentagon ofcourse ]
    Pentagon Denies Osama Capture

    So really its about whose story is more believable
    I trust every major news outlet in the world before Iranian radio. Al-Jazeera and the Pakistani government among the people cited in those news outlets.

    Dale watson of FBI also said in 2002 that bin laden is probably not with us any more
    PROBABLY.

    Do you know the implication of the word PROBABLY? It's a word based on "I have no proof, but this is my educated guess". And what the hell has Dale Watson of the FBI said in the past nine years? This is really grasping for straws here. I see you just joined the forum today so I understand you're new, but here on the World Affairs Board we expect people to have a grasp of reality and they're not allowed to just state bullsh*t or idle conspiacy theories, and if you're going to state one do f*cking better on providing information to back it up than an Iranian radio bit from seven years ago and a piece of sh*t guess from a guy in the FBI from nine years ago.
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    Al-Qaeda's remaining leaders
    After 11 September 2001, the US issued a list of suspected al-Qaeda leaders. Many have now been captured or killed, including Osama Bin Laden, while some new names have emerged.

    Ayman al-Zawahiri
    Ayman al-Zawahiri, an eye surgeon who helped found the Egyptian Islamic Jihad militant group, is expected to replace Osama Bin Laden as the leader of al-Qaeda.

    He was already the group's chief ideologue and was believed by some experts to have been the "operational brains" behind the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.


    Zawahiri was number two - behind only Bin Laden - in the 22 "most wanted terrorists" list announced by the US government in 2001 and continues to have a $25m bounty on his head.

    Zawahiri was reportedly last seen in the eastern Afghan town of Khost in October 2001, and went into hiding after a US-led coalition overthrew the Taliban.

    He was thought to be hiding in the mountainous regions along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border with the help of sympathetic local tribes. However, the killing of Bin Laden on 1 May 2011 in Abbottabad, north of the Pakistani capital Islamabad, suggests this may not be the case. His wife and children were reportedly killed in a US air strike in late 2001.

    Zawahiri was for a time al-Qaeda's most prominent spokesman, appearing in 40 videos and audiotapes since 2003 - most recently in April 2011 - as the group tried to radicalise and recruit Muslims worldwide.

    He has also been indicted in the US for his role in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Africa, and was sentenced to death in Egypt in absentia for his activities with Islamic Jihad during the 1990s.

    Abu Yahya al-Libi
    Abu Yahya al-Libi, also known as Hasan Qayid and Yunis al-Sahrawi, is thought to have been a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) before he allied himself to Osama Bin Laden.


    He has since emerged as al-Qaeda's leading theologian, and most visible face on video, surpassing Ayman al-Zawahri in recent years.

    Libi is believed to have spent five years as a religious student in Mauritania in the 1990s.

    He claims he was captured by Pakistani forces in 2002 and then sent to the US military airbase at Bagram in Afghanistan, from where he escaped in July 2005 along with three other al-Qaeda members.

    Al-Qaeda has named Libi as a field commander in Afghanistan, though he has styled himself in his many videos as a theological scholar, and spoken on a variety of global issues of importance to the group.

    Khalid al-Habib
    Khalid al-Habib, thought to be either Egyptian or Moroccan, was identified in a November 2005 video as al-Qaeda's field commander in south-east Afghanistan, while Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was named as its commander in the south-west.


    Habib seems to have assumed overall command after the latter's capture in 2006.

    He was described as al-Qaeda's "military commander" in July 2008.

    US military officials say he oversees al-Qaeda's "internal" operations in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.

    Habib may be operating under an assumed identity, according to some analysts. One of his noms de guerre is believed to be Khalid al-Harbi.

    Adnan el Shukrijumah
    In August 2010, the FBI said Adnan Gulshair el Shukrijumah had taken over as chief of al-Qaeda's "external operations council". Having lived for more than 15 years in the US, it is the first time a leader intimately familiar with American society has been placed in charge of planning attacks for the group outside Afghanistan.


    Such a position - once held by the alleged mastermind of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - necessitates regular contact with al-Qaeda's senior leadership and military commanders, and makes him likely to be killed or captured.

    Born in Saudi Arabia, Shukrijumah moved to the US when his father, a Muslim cleric, took up a post at a mosque in Brooklyn. They later moved to Florida.

    In the late 1990s, he became convinced that he had to participate in jihad in place like Chechnya, and left for training camps in Afghanistan.

    Shukrijumah has been named in a US federal indictment as a conspirator in the case against three men accused of plotting suicide bomb attacks on New York's subway system in 2009. He is also suspected of having played a role in plotting al-Qaeda attacks in Panama, Norway and the UK.

    Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
    A Libyan, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman joined Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan as a teenager in the 1980s.


    Since then, he has gained considerable stature in al-Qaeda as an explosives expert and Islamic scholar.

    He retreated with Bin Laden to the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border region in late 2001, and has since become a link to other Islamist militant groups in the Middle East and North Africa.

    In June 2006 the US military recovered a letter he wrote to the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian who ran al-Qaeda in Iraq, chastising him for alienating rival insurgent groups and attacking Shia Muslims. It warned Zarqawi that he could be replaced if he did not change his ways.

    He is said to have successfully brokered a formal alliance with the Algerian Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), which changed its name to al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

    Saif al-Adel
    An Egyptian in his late 30s, Saif al-Adel is the nom de guerre of a former Egyptian army colonel, Muhamad Ibrahim Makkawi. He travelled to Afghanistan in the 1980s to fight Soviet forces with the mujahideen.


    Adel was once Osama Bin Laden's security chief, and assumed many of military commander Mohammed Atef's duties after his death in a US air strike in November 2001.

    He is suspected of involvement in the 1998 US embassy bombings in East Africa, training the Somali fighters who killed 18 US servicemen in Mogadishu in 1993, and instructing some of the 11 September 2001 hijackers.

    In 1987, Egypt accused Adel of trying to establish a military wing of the militant Islamic group al-Jihad, and of trying to overthrow the government.

    Following the invasion of Afghanistan, Adel is believed to have fled to Iran with Suleiman Abu Ghaith and Saad Bin Laden, a son of the late al-Qaeda leader. They were allegedly then held under house arrest by the Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Iran has never acknowledged their presence.

    Several letters and internet statements bearing Adel's name or aliases have been released since 2002, leading analysts to believe he is still in contact with al-Qaeda's leaders in the region.

    Recent reports say Adel may have been released and made his way to northern Pakistan, along with Saad Bin Laden.

    Mustafa Hamid
    Mustafa Hamid, the father-in-law of Saif al-Adel, served as instructor in tactics at an al-Qaeda camp near Jalalabad and is the link between the group and Iran's government, according to the US.

    After the fall of the Taliban, he is said to have negotiated the safe relocation of several senior al-Qaeda members and their families to Iran. In mid-2003, Hamid was arrested by the Iranian authorities.

    Saad Bin Laden
    Saad Bin Laden, one of Osama Bin Laden's sons, has been involved in al-Qaeda activities. In late 2001, he helped his relatives flee to Iran.

    He made key decisions for al-Qaeda and was part of a small group of al-Qaeda members involved in managing the organisation from Iran, according to US officials. He was arrested by Iranian authorities in early 2003, but recent reports say he may have been released and made his way to northern Pakistan.

    US officials said an "adult son" of Osama Bin Laden's was killed alongside him in the raid in Abbottabad in May 2011. It is not known if it was Saad.

    Hamza al-Jawfi
    Hamza al-Jawfi, a Gulf Arab, is believed by some to have become al-Qaeda's external operations chief after the death of Abu Ubaida al-Masri from hepatitis C in December 2007. However, the FBI has said this year that Adnan el Shukrijumah had assumed this role.

    Matiur Rehman
    Matiur Rehman is a Pakistani militant who has been identified as al-Qaeda's planning chief. He is said to have been an architect of the foiled "liquid bomb" plot to explode passenger aircraft over the Atlantic in 2006.

    Abu Khalil al-Madani
    Little is known about Abu Khalil al-Madani, who was identified as a member of al-Qaeda's Shura council in a July 2008 video. His name suggests he is Saudi.

    Midhat Mursi
    An Egyptian chemist, Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Omar has allegedly overseen al-Qaeda's efforts to develop chemical and biological weapons.


    Also known as Abu Khabab, he left Egypt to fight the Soviets in the 1980s. A fellow mujahideen says he was slow to join al-Qaeda because he disagreed with the group's central strategy and was not an ally of Ayman al-Zawahiri, but changed his mind in part because he needed the money.

    Mursi was a trainer at al-Qaeda's Derunta camp in Afghanistan when it was set up in the late 1990s.

    In addition to teaching courses on conventional explosives, he wrote manuals on how to make toxic weapons and conducted a variety of experiments as part of Project al-Zabadi, or "curdled milk".

    The US believes he may be living in Pakistan, although other reports suggest he escaped to the Pankisi Gorge in the Caucasus region in 2001. US intelligence officials do not believe he occupies a senior leadership position.

    Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso
    Fahd al-Quso is wanted in connection with the 2000 bomb attack on the USS Cole in Aden, which resulted in the deaths of 17 US sailors.

    In April 2003, he was being held by the Yemeni authorities in connection with the attack when he escaped. He was recaptured 11 months later, but was released from prison early in 2007 despite US protests.

    It was thought that he was still in Yemen, but reports say he may have been killed by a US drone strike in September in North Waziristan, Pakistan.

    Adam Gadahn
    Adam Gadahn, a US citizen who grew up in California, has emerged as a high-profile propagandist for al-Qaeda, appearing in a string of videos.


    After converting to Islam as a teenager, he moved in 1998 to Pakistan and married an Afghan refugee. Gadahn performed translations for al-Qaeda and become associated with al-Qaeda's captured field commander, Abu Zubaydah. He is also thought to have later trained at a militant camp in Afghanistan.

    In 2004, the US justice department named him as one of seven al-Qaeda operatives planning imminent attacks on the US. Shortly afterwards, he appeared in a video on behalf of al-Qaeda, identifying himself as "Azzam the American".

    In September 2006, he appeared in a video with Ayman al-Zawahiri and exhorted his fellow Americans to convert to Islam and support al-Qaeda.

    The next month, Gadahn become the first US citizen to be charged with treason since World War II. The indictment said he had "knowingly adhered to an enemy of the United States... with intent to betray the United States". A $1m bounty was placed on his head.

    Analysts say Gadahn is not part of al-Qaeda's senior leadership, and does not hold any operational or ideological significance.

    Nasser Abdul Karim al-Wuhayshi
    Wuhayshi, a former aide to Osama Bin Laden, is the leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), which was formed in 2009 in a merger between two offshoots of al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.


    US counter-terrorism officials have said it is the "most active operation franchise" of al-Qaeda beyond Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    Wuhayshi, who is from the southern Yemeni governorate of al-Baida, spent time in religious institutions before travelling to Afghanistan in the late 1990s.

    He fought at the battle of Tora Bora in December 2001, before escaping over the border into Iran, where he was eventually arrested. He was extradited to Yemen in 2003.

    In February 2006, Wuhayshi and 22 other suspected al-Qaeda members managed to escape from a prison in Sanaa. Among them were also Jamal al-Badawi, the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, and Qasim al-Raymi, al-Qaeda's in the Arabian Peninsula's military commander.

    After their escape from prison, Wuhayshi and Raymi are said to have overseen the formation of al-Qaeda in Yemen, which took in both new recruits and Arab fighters returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The group claimed responsibility for two suicide bomb attacks that killed six Western tourists before being linked to the assault on the US embassy in Sanaa in 2008, in which 10 Yemeni guards and four civilians died.

    Four months later, Wuhayshi announced in a video the merger of the al-Qaeda offshoots in Yemen and Saudi Arabia to form "al-Qaeda of Jihad Organisation in the Arabian Peninsula".

    The group's first operation outside Yemen was carried out in Saudi Arabia in August 2009 against the kingdom's security chief, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, though he survived.

    It later said it was behind the attempt to blow up a US passenger jet as it flew into Detroit on 25 December 2009. A Nigerian man charged in relation with the incident said AQAP operatives had trained him.

    Anwar al-Awlaki
    A radical American Muslim cleric of Yemeni descent, Awlaki has been linked to a series of attacks and plots across the world - from 11 September 2001 to the shootings at Fort Hood in November 2009.


    Since going on the run in Yemen in December 2007, Awlaki's overt endorsement of violence as a religious duty in his sermons and on the internet is thought to have inspired new recruits to Islamist militancy.

    US officials say he is also a leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, an offshoot of the militant network in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, and helped recruit Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian accused of attempting to blow up an airliner as it flew into Detroit on 25 December 2009.

    Following the failed attack, President Barack Obama took the extraordinary step of authorising the Central Intelligence Agency to kill him. Soon afterwards, Awlaki survived an air strike in southern Yemen.

    Awlaki is currently thought to be hiding in the mountainous governorates of Shabwa and Marib, under the protection of the large and powerful Awalik tribe, to which he belongs. His family say he is not a terrorist.

    Abou Mossab Abdelwadoud
    A former university science student and infamous bomb-maker, Abdelwadoud is the leader of al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).


    He became leader of the head of the Algerian Islamist militant organisation, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), in mid-2004, succeeding Nabil Sahraoui after he was killed in a major army operation.

    After university in 1995, Abdelwadoud joined the Armed Islamist Group (GIA), a precursor to the GSPC which shared its aim of establishing an Islamic state in Algeria. He is said to have become a member of the GSPC in 1998.

    Abdelwadoud, whose real name is Abdelmalek Droukdel, was one of the signatories to a statement in 2003 announcing an alliance with al-Qaeda.

    In September 2006, the GSPC said it had joined forces with al-Qaeda, and in January 2007 it announced it had changed its name to "al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb" to reflect its allegiance. Abdelwadoud said he had consulted Ayman al-Zawahiri about the group's plans.

    Three months later, 33 people were killed in bomb attacks on official buildings in Algiers. Abdelwadoud allegedly supervised the operation. That December, twin car bombs killed at least 37 people in the capital.

    The ambitions of the group's leadership widened, and it subsequently carried out a number of attacks across North Africa. It also declared its intention to attack Western targets and send jihadis to Iraq. Westerners


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    Some more details emerge and another version of events

    Was Osama killed by US troops or his own guard? | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

    Reports suggest that Bin Laden was shot dead with a single bullet to his head when he resisted capture, but an official indicated that the 54-year-old mastermind of the biggest and most devastating attack on US soil might have been killed by one of his own guards in line with his will to avert his capture.

    One of the two helicopters involved in the assault went down during action and one official who visited the scene said there was no evidence to suggest that it might have been hit by a rocket or shot from the ground.

    “There was no evidence of the helicopter having been shot down,” the official said. “From the wreckage it appears to be more a case of a crash,” he said.
    The body of one of Bin Laden’s guards, whom the official described as either an Afghan or a tribesman, was lying in the compound.

    Bodies of Bin Laden’s two other guards were found in the living quarters, the official said. Interestingly, the US assault team took away Bin Laden’s body, leaving behind a number of women and children.

    Officials said that one of those killed was Osama’s son.

    This has shattered the long-held belief and myth that the Al Qaeda leader was surrounded by a group of heavily-armed diehard fighters.

    Bin Laden’s two wives, both in their early 50s and one of them of Yemeni origin, were among those left behind, the official said. A third woman, who was wounded in the late-night attack, was taken to a military hospital.
    so there is one survivour who can 'proabably' confrim what happened

    Among the children, the official said, one was Bin Laden’s 11-year-old daughter. The women and children are now in the custody of Pakistan’s security agencies and a senior security official said that those rounded up would be subjected to interrogation to reach to the bottom of the whole story.

    This would make sense, an analyst said. “Osama was known to suffer from kidney ailment and was always in need of dialysis,” the analyst said. “But that he would live a quiet family life with his wives and children, away from the rugged hot-zones of the tribal regions, in a picturesque and scenic place like Abbottabad was beyond anybody’s imaginations.”

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    after reading the above report Im now more inclined to believe that the raid was genuine and that indeed bin laden was killed in the last 48 hours. However it would convince everyone beyond any doubt if the US gov released a visual of the dead body of bin laden or if one of these captured can verify that the one man who was killed and whose body was taken away was indeed bin laden.
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    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&feed=rss.news
    When one of Osama bin Laden's most trusted aides picked up the phone last year, he unknowingly led U.S. pursuers to the doorstep of his boss, the world's most wanted terrorist.

    That phone call, recounted Sunday by a U.S. official, ended a years-long search for bin Laden's personal courier, the key break in a worldwide manhunt. The courier, in turn, led U.S. intelligence to a walled compound in northeast Pakistan, where a team of Navy SEALs shot bin Laden to death.

    The violent final minutes were the culmination of years of intelligence work. Inside the CIA team hunting bin Laden, it always was clear that bin Laden's vulnerability was his couriers. He was too smart to let al-Qaida foot soldiers, or even his senior commanders, know his hideout. But if he wanted to get his messages out, somebody had to carry them, someone bin Laden trusted with his life.

    In a secret CIA prison in Eastern Europe years ago, al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, gave authorities the nicknames of several of bin Laden's couriers, four former U.S. intelligence officials said. Those names were among thousands of leads the CIA was pursuing.

    One man became a particular interest for the agency when another detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told interrogators that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed as al-Qaida's operational leader he received the word through a courier. Only bin Laden would have given al-Libi that promotion, CIA officials believed.

    If they could find that courier, they'd find bin Laden.

    The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA's so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history.

    "We got beat up for it, but those efforts led to this great day," said Marty Martin, a retired CIA officer who for years led the hunt for bin Laden.

    Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.

    It took years of work for intelligence agencies to identify the courier's real name, which officials are not disclosing. When they did identify him, he was nowhere to be found. The CIA's sources didn't know where he was hiding. Bin Laden was famously insistent that no phones or computers be used near him, so the eavesdroppers at the National Security Agency kept coming up cold.

    Then in the middle of last year, the courier had a telephone conversation with someone who was being monitored by U.S. intelligence, according to an American official, who like others interviewed for this story spoke only on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive operation. The courier was located somewhere away from bin Laden's hideout when he had the discussion, but it was enough to help intelligence officials locate and watch him.

    In August 2010, the courier unknowingly led authorities to a compound in the northeast Pakistani town of Abbottabad, where al-Libi had once lived. The walls surrounding the property were as high as 18 feet and topped with barbed wire. Intelligence officials had known about the house for years, but they always suspected that bin Laden would be surrounded by heavily armed security guards. Nobody patrolled the compound in Abbottabad.

    In fact, nobody came or went. And no telephone or Internet lines ran from the compound. The CIA soon believed that bin Laden was hiding in plain sight, in a hideout especially built to go unnoticed. But since bin Laden never traveled and nobody could get onto the compound without passing through two security gates, there was no way to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilal123 View Post
    Some more details emerge and another version of events

    Was Osama killed by US troops or his own guard? | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

    Reports suggest that Bin Laden was shot dead with a single bullet to his head when he resisted capture, but an official indicated that the 54-year-old mastermind of the biggest and most devastating attack on US soil might have been killed by one of his own guards in line with his will to avert his capture.

    so there is one survivour who can 'proabably' confrim what happened
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden was shot above his left eye, blowing away part of his skull.

    The precision kill shot was delivered by a member of Navy's elite SEAL Team Six during a pre-dawn raid Monday on bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

    Photos of bin Laden's injuries were transmitted to Washington as proof that the mission was a success. The administration wasn't releasing the photos Monday.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

    US Official: Bin Laden Skull Blown Apart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden was shot above his left eye, blowing away part of his skull.

    The precision kill shot was delivered by a member of Navy's elite SEAL Team Six during a pre-dawn raid Monday on bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

    Photos of bin Laden's injuries were transmitted to Washington as proof that the mission was a success. The administration wasn't releasing the photos Monday.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

    US Official: Bin Laden Skull Blown Apart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden was shot above his left eye, blowing away part of his skull.

    The precision kill shot was delivered by a member of Navy's elite SEAL Team Six during a pre-dawn raid Monday on bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

    Photos of bin Laden's injuries were transmitted to Washington as proof that the mission was a success. The administration wasn't releasing the photos Monday.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

    US Official: Bin Laden Skull Blown Apart
    The above is the hyped up US version of events, there are some survivors who are in custody now so we'll know in a day or two about what went on during the attack and who all were in the compound.

    Bin Laden is dead for sure , whether the events around his death are going to deliver death blow to fast deteriorating PAK-US relations is what will matter from here on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    I'm not saying the civilians gossipping. I'm talking about a mysterious compound being constructed next to a military academy.
    Depends on when the compound was constructed and when OBL actually moved in.

    Assuming the compound was constructed several years before OBL moved in, and assuming that the owners/builders were checked out then, what reason would there have been to set off alarm bells?

    Someone knows something there. Not only that, there are a lot of retired military types gathered in that area. You think all of them just sort of turn the other way without questioning? Over the course of 6 years?
    What are they supposed to 'question'? A large house in the middle of a garrison town close to a military academy?

    Pakistani military/intelligence/government is either in on it (sheltering bin Laden) or completely inept (unlikely).
    Ineptitude would come into play if there were reasons to investigate the house AFTER OBL moved into it, and investigations were not conducted.
    If Pakistani military can detect and react (or choose not to react) in real time with regards to the American raid, then I have a hard time believing it was not sheltering Osama.
    In the case of the air assault - you have choppers flying across Pakistan and soldiers engaging in combat for close to an hour.

    How does 'detecting an air assault' compare with detecting an individual secretly traveling and hiding in a compound?

    BTW, what is the combat radius of the choppers suspected to have been used in the raid, and which air base did they take off from in Afghanistan and return to?
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