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    Compound in Pakistan was once a safe house
    gulfnews : Compound in Pakistan was once a safe house
    House was not owned by the government and had been rented by Afghan nationals, intelligence official says

    * By Ashfaq Ahmed, Chief Reporter
    * Published: 00:00 May 3, 2011
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    * Soldiers of Pakistan Army seen near the house in Abbottabad on Tuesday where Osama Bin Laden was believed to have been residing. The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary. It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wire fencing.

    Dubai: The compound in Abbottabad where Osama Bin Laden was killed was once used as a safe house by Pakistan's premier intelligence agency ISI, Gulf News has learnt.

    "This area had been used as ISI's safe house, but it was not under their use any more because they keep on changing their locations," a senior intelligence official confided to Gulf News. However, he did not reveal when and for how long it was used by the ISI operatives. Another official cautiously said "it may not be the same house but the same compound or area used by the ISI".

    The official also confirmed that the house was rented out by Afghan nationals and is not owned by the government. The house is located just 800 metres away from the Pakistan Military Academy and some former senior military officials live nearby.

    Abbottabad is a garrison town located just 50 kilometres north of Islamabad and it is a popular summer resort, originally built by the British during colonial rule. The city houses a number of upscale educational institutions and religious schools as well.

    Secluded affluence

    According to the briefing by senior US officials on the killing of Bin Laden, the area is relatively affluent, with lots of retired military staff. It is also insulated from the natural disasters and terrorist attacks that have afflicted other parts of Pakistan — an extraordinarily unique compound. The compound sits on a large plot of land in an area that was relatively secluded when it was built. It is roughly eight times larger than nearby homes.

    The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary.

    It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wires. Internal walls sectioned off different portions of the compound to provide extra privacy.

    Access to the compound is restricted by two security gates and the residents of the compound burnt their trash, unlike their neighbours, who put the trash out for collection.

    The property is valued at approximately $1 million (Dh3.67 million), but has no telephone or Internet connection.
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    Wow. That just digs the hole deeper . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious_eagle View Post
    And that too from Pakistani troops from elite Kakul Academy, these Hollywood fantasies are making me giggle :P
    Tell me, how many people would be awake, keeping watch in that Academy at 1am local time? How long does it take to get people out of bed during peace time, in a military academy, at 1am? Do they have guns and ammo next to their beds ready to go? Or do they have to get an order to open the armory and then equip the men?

    It's easy to prepare yourself for one night. It becomes a chore to do it every night. Does the academy practice rousing the men at 1am every night just to get them accustomed for a possible raid by the Americans?

    Sometimes things really are that easy. Osama was hinding in plain sight. Our guys went in, had a 40 min long firefight, the left, all before the Pakistanis could react. Really, how much situational awareness can you possibly get inside 40 min?
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    Inconceivable Osama had no support in Pakistan: White House
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    Inconceivable Osama had no support in Pakistan: White House | Reuters
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top White House official said it was "inconceivable" Osama bin Laden had not had a support system to help him inside Pakistan, but he declined to speculate if there had been any official Pakistani aid.

    John Brennan, President Barack Obama's top counter terrorism adviser, also told reporters that the U.S. commandos on the raid had been ready to take the al Qaeda leader alive if that had been possible.

    (Reporting by Jeff Mason and Alister Bull, editing by Sandra Maler)
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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious_eagle View Post
    Sir Pakistan has received close to $20 billion in aid as compared to $60 billion in damages its economy has suffered due to WOT, thats a deficit of $40 billion and not to mention 30 000 people have lost their lives. In terms of wealth and human cost, Pakistan has been at the loosing end.
    Even if it cost you elevnty trillion dollars, you should take care of it, it is crap that is floating in your country and you need to take care it of. take some personal responsibility sheesh.

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    Good riddance. Kudos to everybody involved.

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    I keep catching myself on this. If you enjoy the death of a bad man, then the slope to enjoying the death of a good man is very, very greasy.

    But damned, I feel good.
    OOE, as a wise man once said

    I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.
    Despite his death, what makes me really angry is that this worthless piece of sh!t was living in a luxurious mansion near Islamabad with access to medical facilities(for dialysis) and other amenities. Pakistan has a lot of explaining to do for that one
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    elevnty trillion dollars
    Serious amount of money we are talking about.

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    By JAKE TAPPER, HUMA KHAN, MARTHA RADDATZ and LAUREN EFFRON
    Osama Bin Laden Hid Behind His Wife in Firefight - ABC News
    May 2, 2011—
    Osama bin Laden had vowed to go down fighting, but in his last moments alive when cornered by elite U.S. troops the master terrorist hid behind one of his wives, White House Counter Terrorism Chief John Brennan said today.

    The woman who bin Laden tried to use as a human shield was killed in the U.S., Brennan said. Whether did she so willingly is not known.

    The force that swooped down on the world's most wanted terrorist has been identified as SEAL Team Six of the "Naval Special Warfare Development Group."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Tell me, how many people would be awake, keeping watch in that Academy at 1am local time? How long does it take to get people out of bed during peace time, in a military academy, at 1am? Do they have guns and ammo next to their beds ready to go? Or do they have to get an order to open the armory and then equip the men?

    It's easy to prepare yourself for one night. It becomes a chore to do it every night. Does the academy practice rousing the men at 1am every night just to get them accustomed for a possible raid by the Americans?

    Sometimes things really are that easy. Osama was hinding in plain sight. Our guys went in, had a 40 min long firefight, the left, all before the Pakistanis could react. Really, how much situational awareness can you possibly get inside 40 min?
    Regardless, we had 40 Navy Seals. You don't think that was an adequate force to offer perimeter security of any responding force?

    You just need a few laying down heavy fire to keep these guys out of line of sight. They train for this type of stuff, interdiction, and fall back type stuff...40 SEALS wow... probably only took 12 to go in the compound. The rest could be watching the birds and dealing with whatever opposition they meet.

    I am sure, they were ready to fire on any opposing force whether AQ or Pakistani too complete this OP... Pakistan had there time, where we tipped them off, then Bin Ladin escaped. They don't get another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
    Serious amount of money we are talking about.

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    By JAKE TAPPER, HUMA KHAN, MARTHA RADDATZ and LAUREN EFFRON
    Osama Bin Laden Hid Behind His Wife in Firefight - ABC News
    May 2, 2011—
    Osama bin Laden had vowed to go down fighting, but in his last moments alive when cornered by elite U.S. troops the master terrorist hid behind one of his wives, White House Counter Terrorism Chief John Brennan said today.

    The woman who bin Laden tried to use as a human shield was killed in the U.S., Brennan said. Whether did she so willingly is not known.

    The force that swooped down on the world's most wanted terrorist has been identified as SEAL Team Six of the "Naval Special Warfare Development Group."
    Seems to be conflicting reports. Some are saying he hid behind his wife and others are saying he was fighting, has anything been officially confirmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    It was probably an MH-60 Pavehawk in which case anywhere it sets down and can't lift off from that is not easily secured will see it destroyed. hell China would fund the Pakistani government for a year in trade for one of those.
    Ah yes. I noticed in the photos the PA soldiers were working hard to gather up the bits.
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    Osama Bin Laden was living at his Pakistani mansion for at least 8 months, at most, 5 to 6 years!

    Bin Laden Captured Through Detective Work - NYTimes.com
    By MARK MAZZETTI and HELENE COOPER
    Published: May 2, 2011

    WASHINGTON — After years of dead ends and promising leads gone cold, the big break came last August.

    A trusted courier of Osama bin Laden’s whom American spies had been hunting for years was finally located in a compound 35 miles north of the Pakistani capital, close to one of the hubs of American counterterrorism operations. The property was so secure, so large, that American officials guessed it was built to hide someone far more important than a mere courier.

    What followed was eight months of painstaking intelligence work, culminating in a helicopter assault by American military and intelligence operatives that ended in the death of Bin Laden on Sunday and concluded one of history’s most extensive and frustrating manhunts.

    American officials said that Bin Laden was shot in the head after he tried to resist the assault force, and that one of his sons died with him.

    For nearly a decade, American military and intelligence forces had chased the specter of Bin Laden through Pakistan and Afghanistan, once coming agonizingly close and losing him in a pitched battle at Tora Bora, in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan. As Obama administration officials described it, the real breakthrough came when they finally figured out the name and location of Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, whom the Qaeda chief appeared to rely on to maintain contacts with the outside world.

    Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier’s pseudonym to American interrogators and said that the man was a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.

    American intelligence officials said Sunday night that they finally learned the courier’s real name four years ago, but that it took another two years for them to learn the general region where he operated.

    Still, it was not until August that they tracked him to the compound in Abbottabad, a medium-sized city about an hour’s drive north of Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan.

    C.I.A. analysts spent the next several weeks examining satellite photos and intelligence reports to determine who might be living at the compound. A senior administration official said that by September the C.I.A. had decided that there was a “strong possibility” that Bin Laden himself was hiding there.

    It was hardly the spartan cave in the mountains that many had envisioned as Bin Laden’s hiding place. Rather, it was a mansion on the outskirts of the town’s center, set on an imposing hilltop and ringed by 12-foot-high concrete walls topped with barbed wire.

    The property was valued at $1 million, but it had neither a telephone nor an Internet connection. Its residents were so concerned about security that they burned their trash rather putting it on the street for collection the way their neighbors did.

    American officials believed that the compound, built in 2005, was designed for the specific purpose of hiding Bin Laden.

    Months more of intelligence work would follow before American spies felt highly confident that it was indeed Bin Laden and his family who were hiding there — and before President Obama determined that the intelligence was solid enough to begin planning a mission to go after the Qaeda leader.

    On March 14, Mr. Obama held the first of what would be five national security meetings in the course of the next six weeks to go over plans for the operation.

    The meetings, attended by only the president’s closest national security aides, took place as other White House officials were scrambling to avert a possible government shutdown over the budget.

    Four more similar meetings to discuss the plan would follow, until President Obama gathered his aides one final time last Friday.

    At 8:20 that morning, Mr. Obama met with Thomas Donilon, the national security adviser; John O. Brennan, the counterterrorism adviser; and other senior aides in the Diplomatic Room at the White House. The president was traveling to Alabama later that morning to witness the damage from last week’s tornadoes. But first he had to approve the final plan to send operatives into the compound where the administration believed that Bin Laden was hiding.

    Even after the president signed the formal orders authorizing the raid, Mr. Obama chose to keep Pakistan’s government in the dark about the operation.

    “We shared our intelligence on this compound with no other country, including Pakistan,” a senior administration official said.

    It is no surprise that the administration chose not to tell Pakistani officials. The United States never really believed the Pakistanis’ insistence that Bin Laden was not in their country. American diplomatic cables in recent years show constant American pressure on Pakistan to help find and kill Bin Laden.

    Asked about the Qaeda leader’s whereabouts during a Congressional visit to Islamabad in September 2009, the Pakistani interior minister, Rehman Malik, replied that he “’had no clue,” but added that he did not believe that Bin Laden was in the area. Bin Laden had sent his family to Iran, so it made sense that he might have gone there himself, Mr. Malik argued. Alternatively, he might be hiding in Saudi Arabia or Yemen, or perhaps he was already dead, he added, according to a cable from the American Embassy that is among the collection obtained by WikiLeaks.

    The mutual suspicions have grown worse in recent months, particularly after Raymond A. Davis, a C.I.A. contractor, shot two men on a crowded street in Lahore in January.

    On Sunday, the small team of American military and intelligence operatives poured out of helicopters for their attack on the heavily fortified compound.

    American officials gave few details about the raid itself, other than to say that a firefight broke out shortly after the commandos arrived and that Bin Laden had tried to “resist the assault force.”

    When the shooting had stopped, Bin Laden and three other men lay dead. One woman, whom an American official said had been used as a human shield by one of the Qaeda operatives, was also killed.

    The Americans collected Bin Laden’s body and loaded it onto one of the remaining helicopters, and the assault force hastily left the scene.

    Obama administration officials said that one of helicopters went down during the mission because of mechanical failure, but that no Americans were injured.

    It was 3:50 Eastern time on Sunday afternoon when President Obama received the news that Bin Laden had tentatively been identified, most likely after a series of DNA tests.

    The Qaeda leader’s body was flown to Afghanistan, the country where he made his fame fighting and killing Soviet troops during the 1980s.

    From there, American officials said, the body was buried at sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Ah yes. I noticed in the photos the PA soldiers were working hard to gather up the bits.

    I think the most important "bits" were blown up.
    Last edited by Red Seven; 02 May 11, at 21:38.

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    Hid behind his wife? And someone worried about how he was buried? He deserved to have been buried in an unmarked ant hill stuffed in a pig carcass, after thorough defilement in every possible way. Maybe he was...
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    All, as has been said...keep the discussion professional.

    Don't make us lock the thread.

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    People, I have a small question.

    Suppposingly,if one of you were to buy/contruct a large house, about 7-9 times bigger than the existing neighborhoods with 12-14 ft high wall topped with Barbed wires and living a life of absolute secrecy wherein you start to burn your trash rather than dump it-no one gets to see you make a visit to nearby grocery shop etc, NEAR LETS SAY Fort Knox, then would it raise no alarms to Local Intel Units ?

    Would local Units ask no questions and make no efforts to verify the owners or atleast the current occupants of the premises and their business etc ? Isnt it a logical thing to do ?

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