Osama Bin Laden is dead and his corpse is in US hands.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:13

Originally Posted by troung

Blow me, because of your people we are there. It is the fault of Pakistanis we lost 3k people on 9-11, Pakistanis have done all they cold to get in the way of our war against the Taliban.

Go blow yourself - Pakistan had nothing to do with 9/11 and there wasn't anything we could have done to prevent it.

The cumulative events that led to 9/11 had significant US involvement as well.

**drhuy** · 02 May 11,, 19:15

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

The US invasion of Afghanistan is primarily responsible for the spike in terrorism in Pakistan - so how on earth did 'we cause this all by ourselves'?

then you should've warned Taliban not to get into bed with AQ in the first place

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:15

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

Sorry I don't have links, but White House press conference just confirmed that PK Military was not informed in any way and the mission was designed to go "unnoticed" by PK air defence assets. US was monitoring communications in case PK became alerted.

This via live press conference on BBC just now.

I am watching the PC - he was pretty shifty when he answered that question - the answer seemed scripted and was not very convincing when asked about concerns/plans to avoid engagement with Pakistani forces.

**notorious_eagle** · 02 May 11,, 19:15

Originally Posted by citanon

They might have been informed when the SEALS were on the first floor and Osama was on the 2nd floor.

The compound was on a hill about 700 m away from a Pakistani military academy. When it was built it was the only compound on the hill. It is 5x larger than any house nearby and was, by all descriptions, a castle.

A couple of years ago some one in our neighborhood did build an enormous mansion a mile away on top of a hill. Believe me every neighbor knew and were curious about it.

By telling me that the ISI did not know he was there, you are trying to convince me that the ISI is more laid back than a bunch of west coast soccer moms. Sorry, don't buy it.

I have said it before and i will say it again, this is Pakistan and not the US. The neighbourhood where i live in Lahore, 8 years ago a rich expatriate Pakistani moved back and built the biggest house in our neighbourhood. Me or my neighbours are yet to see his face, i dont know what he does for a living or what his name is. Its very easy to live a secluded life in Pakistan, many people do because they dont like people peeking up on their lives or their women. Every country has their on customs and traditions, not everyone lives their life the American way.

**Dreadnought** · 02 May 11,, 19:15

If they had if for while , they could have snapped a few pics, like US soldiers have been doing with dead bodies in afghanistan , I mean which US marine would miss the oppertunity of getting pic taken with the trophy of the 10 year War.

I guess then you definately dont know many US Marines at all then do you? To them their reward is to go home, back to the US and their families.

Your calim that American don’t celebrate or put on display the high value targets they have killed out of respect is just not true. People right now celebrated in the streets of New Yok and Washington , they wanted revenge and the announcement of the killing made them come out on the streets and celebrate.

Would you like to show us any body ever paraded through the streets of the US outside of a funeral in New Orleans or of the like such as a President passing or other?

Problem is you cant, holding a picture of a murderer and terrorist and being happy that hes dead is completely different and a Right if you like in this country. Look it up, if your an American its your Right too. Freedom of Expression, Press, Religion etc etc.

Go do that in many countries out there and see if either a) you dont get shot or b) members of your family dont disappear or you as well.

They did the very same thing when WWII came to a close. Even when the Gulf War came to a close. Celebrating the end of conflict is a given reason for celebration among others.

Parading a soldiers body through the streets in happy that someone is dead because you dont like another country is another thing all together such as in Somalia etc etc.

This is where our culture is completely different from others.

Did you notice we dont burn other countries flags in protest either?

How often do you see the American flag burned in protest including Pakistan? Pretty often.

So why in the hell would I or any other American want my tax money going to people that never appreciate whats being done for them by the US and knowingly harbor terrorists such as this dead POS which killed approximately 3,000 innocent civilians?

Probably one of the only reasons India hasnt put her foot in Pakistans ass is due to the US and her intervention. Dont believe me? Ask an Indian.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:15

Originally Posted by drhuy

then you should've warned Taliban not to get into bed with AQ in the first place

What makes you think the Taliban listened or knew what OBL was planning?

**Hilal123** · 02 May 11,, 19:16

and the TTP has announed that NOW ( as if uptill now that not the case ) Pakistan will be their main target

www.dawn.com - Security Verification

“Now Pakistani rulers, President Zardari and the army will be our first targets. America will be our second target,” Ehsanullah Ehsan, a spokesman for Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Taliban Movement of Pakistan, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

Serously we should nuke these guys , these dirty low life cockroaches are in the pcokets of the enemies of Pakistan

**troung** · 02 May 11,, 19:16

Just heard opnion of Gen (r) Aslam Beg , ex COAS Pakistan Army , his opion is that this is just drama done to further malign Pakistan Army and the ISI.

They malign themselves by their support for terrorism. Dude is just hating because his property values in his neighborhood dropped.

Go blow yourself - Pakistan had nothing to do with 9/11 and there wasn't anything we could have done to prevent it.

Their allies, who they gave shelter to in the aftermath.

Serously we should nuke these guys , these dirty low life cockroaches are in the pcokets of the enemies of Pakistan

I know, those damn Juice arming them.

What makes you think the Taliban listened or knew what OBL was planning?

Pakistan is the chief backer of the Taliban. You are pissing into the wind.

**Surreal McCoy** · 02 May 11,, 19:18

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

I am watching the PC - he was pretty shifty when he answered that question - the answer seemed scripted and was not very convincing when asked about concerns/plans to avoid engagement with Pakistani forces.

Actually, he wasn't "shifty" in the slightest. He answered the question directly and honestly.

**drhuy** · 02 May 11,, 19:19

Originally Posted by notorious_eagle

I have said it before and i will say it again, this is Pakistan and not the US. The neighbourhood where i live in Lahore, 8 years ago a rich expatriate Pakistani moved back and built the biggest house in our neighbourhood. Me or my neighbours are yet to see his face, i dont know what he does for a living or what his name is. Its very easy to live a secluded life in Pakistan, many people do because they dont like people peeking up on their lives or their women. Every country has their on customs and traditions, not everyone lives their life the American way.

so its custom and tradition in Pak to allow ANYBODY to move in and build a fortification right inside an restricted military zone? Then I wonder why Indian didnt already plant some nukes right next to your HVTs. Or maybe they already did

**notorious_eagle** · 02 May 11,, 19:20

Originally Posted by troung

**** them, because of your people we are there. It is the fault of Pakistanis we lost 3k people on 9-11, Pakistanis have done all they cold to get in the way of our war against the Taliban.

How the **** is it our fault that 9-11 happened, stop blaming others for your own problems. Not a single ounce of proof that Pakistan was responsible for 9-11, do you even have the intellectual capacity to comprehend that or are you letting your self deluded fantasies get the better of your judgement. Pakistan has done every thing it can to support the US in this WOT, after all we are the ones whom have to live in this neighbourhood.

Originally Posted by troung

No they were merely his neighbors.

Can only expect a reply like this from a person of your intellectual capacity

**notorious_eagle** · 02 May 11,, 19:21

Originally Posted by drhuy

so its custom and tradition in Pak to allow ANYBODY to move in and build a fortification right inside an restricted military zone? Then I wonder why Indian didnt already plant some nukes right next to your HVTs. Or maybe they already did

Military Zone :S, it was in a neighbourhood. At least get your facts straight

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:22

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

Actually, he wasn't "shifty" in the slightest. He answered the question directly and honestly.

He didn't answer the question (about avoiding engagement) at all, and his body language and tone changed and were clearly 'shifty'.

**troung** · 02 May 11,, 19:22

How the **** is it our fault that 9-11 happened, stop blaming others for your own problems. Not a single ounce of proof that Pakistan was responsible for 9-11, do you even have the intellectual capacity to comprehend that or are you letting your self deluded fantasies get the better of your judgement. Pakistan has done every thing it can to support the US in this WOT, after all we are the ones whom have to live in this neighbourhood.

Pakistan has given shelter the people behind 9-11, tipped them off to American raids, and refused to act against terrorists inside its own borders. Pakistan still dreams of putting those people back into power. What little they do is to keep the money coming. **** Pakistan.

**NeilE** · 02 May 11,, 19:22

The Pakistani ambassador to England was on BBC News and he said that Osama Bin Laden had been coming and going from the compound. The reporter asked him how he knew that if Pakistan is claiming that they didn't know that he was there and he just looked sheepish and replied "the ISI lured him there"

It was really strange, the reporter didn't pull him up on it and just asked a different question.