Osama Bin Laden is dead and his corpse is in US hands.

**notorious_eagle** · 02 May 11,, 18:55

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Monday said co-operation with Pakistan helped lead the United States to the compound where Osama bin Laden was found and killed by U.S. special forces.

Clinton says Pakistani co-operation helped lead to bin Laden compound - The Globe and Mail

**n21** · 02 May 11,, 18:57

Sand artist in India.

**Dreadnought** · 02 May 11,, 19:00

Originally Posted by notorious_eagle

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Monday said co-operation with Pakistan helped lead the United States to the compound where Osama bin Laden was found and killed by U.S. special forces.

Clinton says Pakistani co-operation helped lead to bin Laden compound - The Globe and Mail

Yep, no doubt to qwell any backlash from the American people and the amount of funding Pakistan recieves from the US annually. 10 years and one wonders just how long they have known he was "in country". You can bet that question never gets answered truthfully.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:03

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Yep, no doubt to qwell any backlash from the American people and the amount of funding Pakistan recieves from the US annually.

Why would she want to 'quell any backlash' if your subsequent comment is anywhere close to accurate?

10 years and one wonders just how long they have known he was "in country". You can bet that question never gets answered truthfully.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:04

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

She failes to mention that cooperation between the Taliban, AQ and "others" has also impeeded US logistics in Pakistan for a very long time. I wonder how long they have known that one too.

She also fails to mention the thousands of Pakistanis (civilians, intelligence agents, soldiers) killed by the 'cooperation between the Taliban, AQ and others'.

How long do you think they knew about that one?

**Hilal123** · 02 May 11,, 19:05

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

The US did not parade Saddam Husseins body around any place nor his sons, he was hung after being found guilty by a court of his own peers and buried. Images were taken by media in the field not a representative of the US and we believe in Freedom of Press, otherwise they would not be permitted to be with our military in the field. Saddams Hussein was "hands off" to our military once his court case began. The Iraqi's hung and buried Saddam not the US.

His body was buried at sea to not offend the Islamic religion and by culture to be buried within 24 hours and not to give idiots a place to worship him. The only ones worshiping his ass right now are the fish in the sea and even they would probably gag on it.

They already had Bin Ladens DNA to match via his children after the attacks of 9-11. And no doubt images were taken and more then likely classified immediately.

The US is not in the business of parading bodies in the streets like other "countries". They dont do it out of respect. You cant earn respect without giving it first.

When bin laden was alive ( 10 years back ) him and his follower were followers of the teachings of Abdul Wahab worshipping graves or even visiting them is a strictly NO NO kind of thing , in fact they say that graves should not even be marked and with time the sign of the grave should be allowed to fade away. Throwing the body at sea is not in any Islamic school of thought.

Your calim that American don’t celebrate or put on display the high value targets they have killed out of respect is just not true. People right now celebrated in the streets of New Yok and Washington , they wanted revenge and the announcement of the killing made them come out on the streets and celebrate.

The US has drawn and quartered its enemies ( and the enemies of Israel ) in a very public way , with media teams and visuals etc ... that’s how the voters know that their government is out killing those who attacked America on 9/11.

The US had full control over the proceedings in Iraq when Saddam was found hiding in a hole , in fact US forces found him and to say that 'it was his own people' who killed him in the end is just a smoke screen

So my question is where is the visual proof that the US had Bin Laden's body in custody?

If they had if for while , they could have snapped a few pics, like US soldiers have been doing with dead bodies in afghanistan , I mean which US marine would miss the oppertunity of getting pic taken with the trophy of the 10 year War.

Simply giving out a statement that 'We killed Bin Laden in Abbotabad , Pakistan and then took his body to be thrown in the sea' just doesn’t seem to very truthful.
Its quite dubious specially the throwing of the body at sea part.

**Dreadnought** · 02 May 11,, 19:06

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

Why would she want to 'quell any backlash' if your subsequent comment is anywhere close to accurate?

Umm, maybe because of the billions in US taxpayer money they have recieved in aid over the last 10 years while our logistics (food,fuel,ammo) and others has been destroyed in Pakistan on a weekly basis and no doubt with their complacent knowledge. IMO Nothing for alot would piss me off too. Think about it and the keeping of such agreements would probably end careers once known.

**citanon** · 02 May 11,, 19:06

Originally Posted by notorious_eagle

My God, they were present at the location in cooperation with the Americans. Why are you speculating that OBL is in bed with the ISI, there is no proof to support your ridiculous claims just like your absurd claimed that the ISI is responsible for the attacks in Mumbai. The Americans wanted to conduct the operation on their own as its their war, ISI and SSG were present at the location to observe. This should be proof enough that Pakistan was aware of this operation long before, its all B.S that ISI would have tipped him off. ISI is an organization made of Pakistanis not some aliens, do you honestly think the ISI will support a man whose responsible for the deaths of thousands of Pakistani's. Learn to accept the facts Good Sir instead of cooked up fantasies

They might have been informed when the SEALS were on the first floor and Osama was on the 2nd floor.

The compound was on a hill about 700 m away from a Pakistani military academy. When it was built it was the only compound on the hill. It is 5x larger than any house nearby and was, by all descriptions, a castle.

A couple of years ago some one in our neighborhood did build an enormous mansion a mile away on top of a hill. Believe me every neighbor knew and were curious about it.

By telling me that the ISI did not know he was there, you are trying to convince me that the ISI is more laid back than a bunch of west coast soccer moms. Sorry, don't buy it.

**drhuy** · 02 May 11,, 19:08

Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim

She also fails to mention the thousands of Pakistanis (civilians, intelligence agents, soldiers) killed by the 'cooperation between the Taliban, AQ and others'.

How long do you think they knew about that one?

Why would someone care when you caused all this by yourself?

**notorious_eagle** · 02 May 11,, 19:09

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Umm, maybe because of the billions in US taxpayer money they have recieved in aid over the last 10 years while our logistics (food,fuel,ammo) and others has been destroyed in Pakistan on a weekly basis and no doubt with their complacent knowledge. IMO Nothing for alot would piss me off too. Think about it.

Sir Pakistan has received close to $20 billion in aid as compared to $60 billion in damages its economy has suffered due to WOT, thats a deficit of $40 billion and not to mention 30 000 people have lost their lives. In terms of wealth and human cost, Pakistan has been at the loosing end.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:09

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Umm, maybe because of the billions in US taxpayer money they have recieved in aid over the last 10 years while our logistics (food,fuel,ammo) and others has been destroyed in Pakistan on a weekly basis and no doubt with their complacent knowledge. IMO Nothing for alot would piss me off too. Think about it.

Err point being, what incentive does the US government have in 'quelling a backlash' against Pakistan? The speculation you are regurgitating here has been out in the media for a long time now, and has contributed to the extremely negative perceptions about Pakistan in the US. So what would be new?

**troung** · 02 May 11,, 19:11

Simply giving out a statement that 'We killed Bin Laden in Abbotabad , Pakistan and then took his body to be thrown in the sea' just doesn’t seem to very truthful.

Your hero is dead, move on.

Sir Pakistan has received close to $20 billion in aid as compared to $60 billion in damages its economy has suffered due to WOT, thats a deficit of $40 billion and not to mention 30 000 people have lost their lives. In terms of wealth and human cost, Pakistan has been at the loosing end.

**** them, because of your people we are there. It is the fault of Pakistanis we lost 3k people on 9-11, Pakistanis have done all they cold to get in the way of our war against the Taliban.

ISI and SSG were present at the location to observe.

No they were merely his neighbors.

**Agnostic Muslim** · 02 May 11,, 19:12

Originally Posted by drhuy

Why would someone care when you caused all this by yourself?

The US invasion of Afghanistan is primarily responsible for the spike in terrorism in Pakistan - so how on earth did 'we cause this all by ourselves'?

**drhuy** · 02 May 11,, 19:12

Originally Posted by notorious_eagle

Sir Pakistan has received close to $20 billion in aid as compared to $60 billion in damages its economy has suffered due to WOT, thats a deficit of $40 billion and not to mention 30 000 people have lost their lives. In terms of wealth and human cost, Pakistan has been at the loosing end.

Glad to know that, really

**Surreal McCoy** · 02 May 11,, 19:12

Sorry I don't have links, but White House press conference just confirmed that PK Military was not informed in any way and the mission was designed to go "unnoticed" by PK air defence assets. US was monitoring communications in case PK became alerted.

This via live press conference on BBC just now.

EDIT: Press conference by John Brennan